[HacDC:Blabber] [Fwd: [dorkbotdc-blabber] Pacman MAME Rom Color Prom editing]

[Alberto Gaitán]

Hear hear!



On 5/9/09 8:25 AM, R. Mark Adams, Ph.D. wrote:
>  >Does anyone really want a return to the 70's?
>  >
> 
> Well, given skyrocketing gas prices, a major recession, and what looks 
> likely to be the (finally) end of an unpopular war, I think we are 
> already there... :-)
> 
> I, for one, look back on my days learning to program in machine language 
> on a 6502-based single-board KIM-1 with real fondness.  In fact, so much 
> so that my two girls are learning how a computer works using a very 
> similar 6800-based Heathkit "Learning Microprocessors" system.  What a 
> way to _really_ understand what is going on in that darn beige box!
> 
> In may ways, the loss of that kind of deep connection with the hardware 
> is a major blow to general computer education, IMHO.
> 
> Thanks!
> -Mark
> 
> Alberto Gaitan wrote:
>> Well, thanks for the mildly condescending, if entertaining, rebuff. :-)
>>
>> This message was originally posted to DorkbotDC's Blabber list. The
>> questioner is an artist, not an engineer. The whole point of the piece
>> he's creating is to repurpose crusty old tech. In his case he's not
>> revisiting anything. He's coming to it fresh and looking to those that
>> have been there, have the tee shirt, and skipped the 30-year reunion
>> for a little guidance. Art does not need to be useful, unlike
>> engineering so I understand if his motivation is potentially
>> misunderstood by some.
>>
>> If you've burned out staring at (poorly?) disassembled ROMs, then
>> you're not the Yoda he's looking for. I forwarded it to the HacDC list
>> in case there was anyone here that could help.
>>
>> Thanks for the bandwidth,
>>
>> Alberto
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Daniel R. Haney <std at salvarsan.org> wrote:
>>> (cough!)
>>>
>>> Gentlemen,
>>>
>>> I started programming in Z80 assembly language when it was current
>>> and I enjoyed it.
>>> In late 70's and early 80's technology,  Z80asm was apt.
>>> The world moved past it.
>>>
>>> Does anyone really want a return to the 70's?
>>>
>>> (crickets)
>>>
>>> While it's amusing to see hand-crufted return address munging
>>> in 8-bit code or note that the disassembler missed a data phase
>>> and emitted three consecutive ops where the accumulator is
>>> Xor'd with itself ... no thanks.
>>>
>>> Been there, done that, got the T-shirt, skipped the 30 year reunion.
>>>
>>> -drh
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew Q Righter wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm guessing you never coded a Tetris-style game or Physics answers into
>>> your little TI calculator. That was ... well 10 years ago now for me. (holy
>>> shit I'm old)
>>>
>>> -Q
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Dan Barlow <dan.r.barlow at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Jason Duerstock <evilmoo+hacdc at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I do not think that means what you think it means.
>>>>> Jason
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Daniel R. Haney <std at salvarsan.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Is anyone else here surprised by the recrudescence of 30 yr old Z-80
>>>>>> assembly language?
>>>> Damn kids!  Get off my lawn! :)
>>>> -Dan Barlow (learned to program on a teletype with punched tape storage)
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