[dorkbotpdx-blabber] Who is NOT going to make it to the TechShop meetup?

Alexis Turner subbies at redheadedstepchild.org
Tue Feb 12 16:04:44 EST 2008


I imagine it is a hell of a lot more expensive to aquire space in the middle of 
town than it is to acquire space in the middle of nowhere.
-Alexis

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, paige saez wrote:

::Argument for the sake of argument here:
::
::What if (like me) you don't have a garage. Or a house. Or a car. But you
::still want to make things with tools. Portland _in particular_ is home to
::many, many talented, creative people that simply do not fit the normal
::american middle-income bracket framework of house, car, garage and money. It
::is what makes us unique.
::
::Many of these talented, creative people do not ever WANT to have these
::things.
::
::Tech-shop _should_ pay attention to the audience they will have in PDX. And
::further more they _should_ accommodate the fact that the audience in PDX is
::going to be different than the audience in California or anywhere else for
::that matter.
::
::We can help them figure out that these distinctions exist by alerting them
::to this fact.
::This is not a slam against Tech-shop for picking a wrong place to hold a
::meeting per se but more of an opportunity to help them understand their soon
::to be ENORMOUS user group is perhaps not entirely whom, or where or how they
::predicted it would be.
::
::
::
::
::On Feb 12, 2008 12:50 PM, Donald Delmar Davis <ddelmardavis at gmail.com>
::wrote:
::
::> Also and more importantly if you are comfortable in your car in the
::> burbs you can put a torch in your garage.
::>
::> The point of tech shop is to provide communal access to resources
::> that would require a house in the burbs if not a shop.
::>
::> Where I grew up everyone at least had a torch, grinder and, drill-
::> press in their garage if not a fairly well equipped shop.
::> (my father repaired his own planes)
::>
::> But that isn't sustainable.
::>
::>
::>
::> On Feb 12, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Thomas Lockney wrote:
::>
::> > dan p wrote:
::> >> ...and how many would not make it if it was on the east side? Is
::> >> everyone who is not going also planning on not becoming a member
::> >> if it is on the westside? and will if it is in their neighborhood?
::> >>  My point is, no matter where it is it is far from somebody. I
::> >> heard a comment at one of the meetings that one of the reasons for
::> >> moving from Vendetta to Backspace was that it was "closer". I know
::> >> someone who has been to a couple of meetings that lives about a
::> >> mile from Vendetta. I live and work in Hillsboro, so it works out
::> >> for me, but I've not had any illusions about having a dorkbot
::> >> meeting out here (though I would guess there are quite a few folks
::> >> out here that would be interested)
::> >>
::> >> I just happy that they are thinking/planning/going to have a
::> >> Techshop closer to me than the bay area (or Seattle).
::> > Well, as an example. Moving the dorkbot meetings from Vendetta to
::> > Backspace (and now LL NW) was not nearly as big of a change as
::> > moving, say, to Hillsboro or Canby. Both are extreme for a large
::> > number of folks. The fact is that the Dorkbot crowd is one of the
::> > groups they made a specific point of trying to target for this
::> > meeting. I know from talking to most of the group that the large
::> > majority of people are on the Eastside. I also know from talking to
::> > people in a lot of other tech groups in town (I'm an organizer and/
::> > or member of quite a few) that the majority of members are actually
::> > on the Eastside. Maybe it's just that the meetings tend to be
::> > downtown or on the Eastside, but that's where they are.
::> >
::> > On the other hand, maybe that's not who TechShop is really trying
::> > to target. Based on demographics I've read, the tech crowd on the
::> > Westside tends to make a bit more money and have more dispossable
::> > income. I guess they're probably more likely to pay the fees for
::> > TechShop.
::> >
::> > It's hard to say. I guess maybe we'll find out more tonight.
::> > Anyway, there has been a lot of discussion here and on the IRC
::> > channel from people who have an issue getting out there, so it
::> > seems reasonable to assume that people are not happy about the
::> > choice of location. And it's far louder than the grumbling I've
::> > heard when moving the Dorkbot meetings, so...
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