From dan.strother at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 02:26:20 2008 From: dan.strother at gmail.com (Dan Strother) Date: Tue Jul 1 02:26:31 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Does benito5 only program but not debug AVRs In-Reply-To: <1214799703.27143.1261017031@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1214759364.9384.1260960413@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1520CAF9-9DE2-480A-9944-75B5CDAEFE27@gmail.com> <4867E550.6090506@pjrc.com> <5fd12c2d0806291326n40485badj8cbff121c4fbc515@mail.gmail.com> <1214799703.27143.1261017031@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <5fd12c2d0806302326h174a7e71vd6455464f6100b4@mail.gmail.com> It's actually a clone of the previous JTAG ICE ( http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?tool_id=2737 - now replaced by the mkII, as you found on Digikey). I think AVR Studio will do everything that you want, particularly now that it integrates with WinAVR - though, I've never actually done any in-circuit debugging of AVR's (only researched it a bit), so I don't have any first-hand experience. Good luck :) Dan On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Transistor Toaster wrote: > Dan, > Thanks for the links. The > http://www.scienceprog.com/build-your-own-avr-jtagice-clone/ is a clone > of what Atmel product name (Digikey.com part number ATJTAGICE2-ND)? > > I am currently writing C code in code::blocks, compiling by hand with > winavr and would need to debug. I typed avr-gdb, included with winavr, > just to see what would happen and don't know too much what. I already > have windows software that talks to my circuit, so I don't want to work > with my Linux distro. > > So, I won't really need anything else besides Ponyprog one single time, > then I can use AVRstudio ( that will launch winavr by itself) for all C > compilation, programming and emulation, right??? > > Frank > > > On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:26:26 -0700, "Dan Strother" > said: >> It's possible to build a clone of Atmel's JTAG ICE: >> http://www.scienceprog.com/build-your-own-avr-jtagice-clone/ (or buy, >> for a rather lot less than Atmel charges: >> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/categories.php?c=7 ). These still >> rely on Atmel's firmware, though (which won't work on hardware that >> doesn't look very similar to a JTAG ICE). You're not tied into AVR >> Studio, at least - you can use GDB with the JTAG ICE: >> http://avarice.sourceforge.net/ . >> >> Unfortunately, so far as I can tell, no one has successfully built a >> clone of the JTAG ICE mkII; so, if you really want to use debugWire, >> you may have to fork over the $300 for the mkII... >> >> >> Dan S. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Paul Stoffregen wrote: >> > All my debug stuff is for the NXP/Philips LPC2000 chips, which are based on >> > an ARM7 (32 bit) core. I am using the AT90USB82 chip as a USB to JTAG >> > adaptor, but I can only debug 32 bit ARM chips, not Atmel's 8 bit AVR chips. >> > >> > For an analogy, consider using a USB-serial adaptor with an FTDI chip to >> > program a bare-bones Arduino. The adaptor uses a FTDI chip, but it only >> > programs the AVR (Arduino) chip, not a FTDI chip. >> > >> > Most AVR chips have debug wire, which is a closed, proprietary protocol. >> > Some also have JTAG. While JTAG itself is an open spec, JTAG itself only >> > tells you how to access registers inside the chip. To actually use JTAG, >> > additional specs are necessary to know what registers are available and how >> > to use them (it's usually quite complicated). Atmel has published boundary >> > scan info for some chips (which allows manipulating the external pins for >> > testing the circuit board traces), to the best of my knowledge, Atmel has >> > never released JTAG debug register specs which would be necessary to use >> > that JTAG port to debug an AVR processor. >> > >> > If those JTAG register specs are available for AVR chips, please tell me >> > where. >> > >> > Without that info, there is no hope of ever making an open debug tool for >> > the AVR/Arduino (which is the main reason I'm using the ARM chip). >> > >> > >> > -Paul >> > >> > >> >> Paul Stoffregon has done some work towards this using the at90usb82. Debug >> >> wire as I understand it is Atmel proprietary. >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list >> > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org >> > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list >> dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org >> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > -- > Transistor Toaster > transistortoaster@fastmail.fm > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: > http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > From tlockney at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 14:28:36 2008 From: tlockney at gmail.com (Thomas Lockney) Date: Thu Jul 3 14:31:02 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [Fwd: [PLUG-ANNOUNCE] SECOND ANNOUNCEMENT: July PLUG Meeting] Message-ID: <1215109716.31999.5.camel@tardis> Looks like this might be at least tangentially related to things some of you are doing... sorry for the short notice (it's tonight). -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: David Mandel Reply-To: plug@lists.pdxlinux.org To: Portland Linux User Group Announcements , Portland Linux User Group Cc: David Mandel , Geoff Burling , Dennis Gilbert Subject: [PLUG-ANNOUNCE] SECOND ANNOUNCEMENT: July PLUG Meeting Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:17:17 -0700 MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT The Portland Linux/Unix Group will meet 7 PM Thursday Jul 3, 2008 at Portland State University in the Fariborz Maseeh College of Engineering & Computer Science Building Room FAB 86-01 (This is in the basement.) The building is on SW 4th across from SW College Street. See location H-10 on map at http://pdxLinux.org/campus_map.jpg ******************************************************************* PRESENTATION Stupid USB Keyboard Tricks Reading magstripes, barcodes, 10-key pads, and keyboards with libusb. by Eric Wilhelm An overview of libusb, how usb keyboards (and keyboard-like devices) are handled by Linux and X, and how they can be disconnected from the main input driver for use and abuse by user-space code. This technology has useful applications such as connecting USB credit-card and barcode readers to point-of-sale software independently from the keyboard focus or keymap. It also allows silly things like multi-player text editors or a 105-command program launcher. Or you could just use it to change songs in xmms. Code will shown in small doses of Perl and C. Hands-on demonstrations will be included as time allows. Caution: presentation may result in a desire to attach one or more additional devices to your computer. ******************************************************************* Agenda: 7:00 - 7:30 Business We will discuss the status of our ongoing projects including PLUG's monthly Advanced Topics meetings, PLUG's monthly hands on clinics, PLUG for Education, etc. 7:30 - 8:30 Presentation See above 9:00 - ... Beer Jax Bar And Restaurant 826 SW 2nd Avenue Portland (Note: We no longer use the Lucky Lab.) David Mandel Chief Activist Portland Linux/Unix Group 560 SE Alexander Corvallis, Oregon 97333 (541) 730-5285 mobile dmandel at pdxLinux.org P.S. The Mid Willamette Valley Linux Users Group meets every month. They are currently meeting at 6:00 PM on the third Wednesday of the month at the Corvallis Chamber of Commerce in Corvallis. As of May 2008, the Mid Willamette Valley Linux Users Group was under reconstruction. Once this is done see http://www.lug.corvallis.or.us/ for details. P.S. The Eugene Linux Users Group meets several times a month. See http://www.euglug.org for details. ====================================================================== David Mandel http://www.DavidMandel.com Portland Linux/Unix Group http://pdxLinux.org LinuxFund http://LinuxFund.org ====================================================================== _______________________________________________ PLUG-announce mailing list PLUG-announce@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce From dalasv at yahoo.com Thu Jul 3 15:40:38 2008 From: dalasv at yahoo.com (dalas v.) Date: Thu Jul 3 15:40:47 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Arduino ported to atmega644 In-Reply-To: <1215109716.31999.5.camel@tardis> Message-ID: <185931.10861.qm@web31504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Something from my coworker at Vimeo: http://vimeo.com/1275445 From markgross at thegnar.org Thu Jul 3 21:25:04 2008 From: markgross at thegnar.org (mark gross) Date: Thu Jul 3 21:25:27 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Arduino ported to atmega644 In-Reply-To: <185931.10861.qm@web31504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1215109716.31999.5.camel@tardis> <185931.10861.qm@web31504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080704012504.GC29912@thegnar.org> very cool --mgross On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 12:40:38PM -0700, dalas v. wrote: > Something from my coworker at Vimeo: > > http://vimeo.com/1275445 > > > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080703/ac7d57a2/attachment.bin From ddelmardavis at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 23:24:21 2008 From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Delmar Davis) Date: Thu Jul 3 23:25:06 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Arduino ported to atmega644 In-Reply-To: <185931.10861.qm@web31504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <185931.10861.qm@web31504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1833DEDC-B781-4F38-B0E2-10A7F6A0A4DF@gmail.com> I tried to do this in Feburary. Most of the fight was in how hacked the bootloader was (ie 4 people punching a generalized piece of code until it only worked with the mega168) the tool-chain was years out of date, and the state of the code in general. The rest of it was that I tried to do it in 2 days. Once I returned to it I decided that the right way to approach porting the arduino was to start over again with wiring. I am going to be running Wiring on the new mega325 which is the same price as the 644 with a full 7 ports. It will be cool to dig into the code. Nice work! On Jul 3, 2008, at 12:40 PM, dalas v. wrote: > Something from my coworker at Vimeo: > > http://vimeo.com/1275445 > > > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080703/c2002c63/attachment.html From dorkbot at mersenne.com Sat Jul 5 23:55:52 2008 From: dorkbot at mersenne.com (dave madden) Date: Sat Jul 5 23:56:04 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] LCD Module Help? Message-ID: <85wsjzoed3.fsf@voodoo.mersenne.com> I picked up a cheap LCD at Surplus Gizmos, but no datasheet. It's a 3"x2.5" screen, probably graphical, with a 16-pin interface. I found the manufacturer's website and basic specs for a similar module (including 16-pin pinout), but I'm still looking for protocol info. It seems like many of these LCD modules use the same/similar protocol; can anybody here help me out? The module is a Nan Ya LMD88S096AC, and the specs are at http://www.npc.com.tw/Emd-e/LCD-e/lcd-p18.htm Thanks, dave madden (via emacs, the one true editor) From jason at noisybox.net Sun Jul 6 14:28:57 2008 From: jason at noisybox.net (Jason Plumb) Date: Sun Jul 6 14:30:11 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] LCD Module Help? In-Reply-To: <85wsjzoed3.fsf@voodoo.mersenne.com> References: <85wsjzoed3.fsf@voodoo.mersenne.com> Message-ID: <48710EE9.4090306@noisybox.net> dave madden wrote: > I picked up a cheap LCD at Surplus Gizmos, but no datasheet. The module is a Nan Ya LMD88S096AC, and the specs are at Assuming that the controller is the Hitachi HD66204, I think the datasheet has the specific protocol information you need: http://www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf/1554904.pdf Let us know how it works out. -jason http://noisybox.net From paul at pjrc.com Sun Jul 6 21:25:18 2008 From: paul at pjrc.com (Paul Stoffregen) Date: Sun Jul 6 21:17:23 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Meeting tomorrow? (July 7th) Message-ID: <4871707E.7080608@pjrc.com> Is there a meeting tomorrow evening? From tlockney at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 21:53:35 2008 From: tlockney at gmail.com (Thomas Lockney) Date: Sun Jul 6 21:53:47 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Meeting tomorrow? (July 7th) In-Reply-To: <4871707E.7080608@pjrc.com> References: <4871707E.7080608@pjrc.com> Message-ID: <1215395615.31453.0.camel@tardis> On Sun, 2008-07-06 at 18:25 -0700, Paul Stoffregen wrote: > Is there a meeting tomorrow evening? Yes. I'll update the calendar and send out a reminder later tonight. From tlockney at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 01:17:44 2008 From: tlockney at gmail.com (Thomas Lockney) Date: Mon Jul 7 01:17:56 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] DorkbotPDX Meeting, 7/7 7PM @ NW Lucky Lab Message-ID: What: DorkbotPDX Meeting When: Mon Dec 22 7pm Where: NW Lucky Lab, 1945 NW Quimby (19th and NW Quimby) Come join us for an evening of socializing, talking about odd hacks and poking around with other people toys. Bring things for show and tell if you like, or just bring a willingness to share your interests. We'll be the kids with all the coolest stuff on the table. Hope to see you there. From jason at noisybox.net Mon Jul 7 03:46:34 2008 From: jason at noisybox.net (Jason Plumb) Date: Mon Jul 7 03:48:07 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] found: bike gloves Message-ID: <4871C9DA.8000404@noisybox.net> I found some bike gloves at the last meeting and nobody has claimed them yet. I should have them tomorrow, so please get them from me or I'll leave them back on the counter where I found them. See ya then! -jason http://noisybox.net From teknotus at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 19:21:13 2008 From: teknotus at gmail.com (Daniel Johnson) Date: Mon Jul 7 19:21:23 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Re: [dorkbotpdx-announce] DorkbotPDX Meeting, 7/7 7PM @ NW Lucky Lab In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Uh December? On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Thomas Lockney wrote: > What: DorkbotPDX Meeting > When: Mon Dec 22 7pm > Where: NW Lucky Lab, 1945 NW Quimby (19th and NW Quimby) > > Come join us for an evening of socializing, talking about odd hacks > and poking around with other people toys. Bring things for show and > tell if you like, or just bring a willingness to share your interests. > We'll be the kids with all the coolest stuff on the table. Hope to see > you there. From tlockney at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 20:18:38 2008 From: tlockney at gmail.com (Thomas Lockney) Date: Mon Jul 7 20:18:47 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Re: DorkbotPDX Meeting, 7/7 7PM @ NW Lucky Lab In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Thomas Lockney wrote: > What: DorkbotPDX Meeting > When: Mon July _7_!!, 7pm > Where: NW Lucky Lab, 1945 NW Quimby (19th and NW Quimby) > > Come join us for an evening of socializing, talking about odd hacks > and poking around with other people toys. Bring things for show and > tell if you like, or just bring a willingness to share your interests. > We'll be the kids with all the coolest stuff on the table. Hope to see > you there. Damn cut and paste... From fermatslasttheremin at yahoo.com Mon Jul 7 20:48:08 2008 From: fermatslasttheremin at yahoo.com (Simran Gleason) Date: Mon Jul 7 20:48:16 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] best internet service provider? Message-ID: <289226.65105.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello dorks, I just moved to portland (well, just finished buying a house. haven't quite moved yet), and need to get it set up with hot & cold running bits. What's the best internet provider? Speakeasy. qwest, verizon, comcast? others? Do you have any horror storrrries to warn us away from any of them? Warmfuzzyohyeah recommendations? Are there small local companies that do a good job of competing with the big bandwidth-limiters? We're in SE (very S, medium E). Thanks, Simran From dalasv at yahoo.com Mon Jul 7 21:36:02 2008 From: dalasv at yahoo.com (dalas v.) Date: Mon Jul 7 21:36:10 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] best internet service provider? In-Reply-To: <289226.65105.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <764221.73221.qm@web31506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I haven't had any problems with Comcast. I hear they block torrents in other markets? Mine download just fine. I haven't tried any other service. --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Simran Gleason wrote: > From: Simran Gleason > Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] best internet service provider? > To: "A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)" > Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 5:48 PM > Hello dorks, > I just moved to portland (well, just finished buying a > house. haven't quite moved yet), > and need to get it set up with hot & cold running bits. > > What's the best internet provider? Speakeasy. qwest, > verizon, comcast? others? > Do you have any horror storrrries to warn us away from any > of them? > Warmfuzzyohyeah recommendations? Are there small local > companies that do a good job > of competing with the big bandwidth-limiters? > > We're in SE (very S, medium E). > > Thanks, > Simran > > > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber From fcanaan at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 23:59:23 2008 From: fcanaan at gmail.com (Frank Canaan) Date: Mon Jul 7 23:59:34 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] best internet service provider? In-Reply-To: <764221.73221.qm@web31506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <289226.65105.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <764221.73221.qm@web31506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <75f7c3550807072059i4b5d29ci8f0ef7273ad0a1c2@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, I'm pretty Happy with Comcast other than the prices :) Watchout though if you need to keep a Craptastic Windows IPSEC vpn session open reliably. They tend to dump when comcast sends out modem or other updates. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:36 PM, dalas v. wrote: > I haven't had any problems with Comcast. I hear they block torrents in > other markets? Mine download just fine. I haven't tried any other service. > > > --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Simran Gleason wrote: > > > From: Simran Gleason > > Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] best internet service provider? > > To: "A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)" < > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org> > > Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 5:48 PM > > Hello dorks, > > I just moved to portland (well, just finished buying a > > house. haven't quite moved yet), > > and need to get it set up with hot & cold running bits. > > > > What's the best internet provider? Speakeasy. qwest, > > verizon, comcast? others? > > Do you have any horror storrrries to warn us away from any > > of them? > > Warmfuzzyohyeah recommendations? Are there small local > > companies that do a good job > > of competing with the big bandwidth-limiters? > > > > We're in SE (very S, medium E). > > > > Thanks, > > Simran > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > > > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > -- -Frank Canaan fcanaan@gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080707/cebac52e/attachment.html From anselm at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 00:16:20 2008 From: anselm at gmail.com (Anselm Hook) Date: Tue Jul 8 00:16:32 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] best internet service provider? In-Reply-To: <75f7c3550807072059i4b5d29ci8f0ef7273ad0a1c2@mail.gmail.com> References: <289226.65105.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <764221.73221.qm@web31506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <75f7c3550807072059i4b5d29ci8f0ef7273ad0a1c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2686af10807072116r47b13ffep62b2ea4a57f718b4@mail.gmail.com> i'm still baffled by tcp/ip as a protocol; who'd make something that could fall over and drop session like that? but happy with comcast - cheaper than centurytel at least. a On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Frank Canaan wrote: > Yeah, I'm pretty Happy with Comcast other than the prices :) Watchout > though if you need to keep a Craptastic Windows IPSEC vpn session open > reliably. They tend to dump when comcast sends out modem or other updates. > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:36 PM, dalas v. wrote: > >> I haven't had any problems with Comcast. I hear they block torrents in >> other markets? Mine download just fine. I haven't tried any other service. >> >> >> --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Simran Gleason wrote: >> >> > From: Simran Gleason >> > Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] best internet service provider? >> > To: "A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)" < >> dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org> >> > Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 5:48 PM >> > Hello dorks, >> > I just moved to portland (well, just finished buying a >> > house. haven't quite moved yet), >> > and need to get it set up with hot & cold running bits. >> > >> > What's the best internet provider? Speakeasy. qwest, >> > verizon, comcast? others? >> > Do you have any horror storrrries to warn us away from any >> > of them? >> > Warmfuzzyohyeah recommendations? Are there small local >> > companies that do a good job >> > of competing with the big bandwidth-limiters? >> > >> > We're in SE (very S, medium E). >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Simran >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list >> > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org >> > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list >> dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org >> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber >> > > > > -- > -Frank Canaan > fcanaan@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > -- anselm 415 215 4856 http://hook.org http://makerlab.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080707/e98cc560/attachment-0001.html From dalasv at yahoo.com Tue Jul 8 01:10:41 2008 From: dalasv at yahoo.com (dalas v.) Date: Tue Jul 8 01:10:50 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] best internet service provider? In-Reply-To: <75f7c3550807072059i4b5d29ci8f0ef7273ad0a1c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <38458.49271.qm@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> A few times I have called Comcast and told the representative "Your service costs too much for me to keep it. Can you give me a discount?" And they have knocked maybe $15 off the price for maybe 6 months. Then I would just call back and ask them to lower it again. I stopped doing that because my company pays my Internet bill now and $15 is not a significant enough amount to them for me to bother with it. Not a guarantee, just my experience. -d --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Frank Canaan wrote: > From: Frank Canaan > Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] best internet service provider? > To: "A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)" > Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 8:59 PM > Yeah, I'm pretty Happy with Comcast other than the > prices :) Watchout though > if you need to keep a Craptastic Windows IPSEC vpn session > open reliably. > They tend to dump when comcast sends out modem or other > updates. > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:36 PM, dalas v. > wrote: > > > I haven't had any problems with Comcast. I hear > they block torrents in > > other markets? Mine download just fine. I haven't > tried any other service. > > > > > > --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Simran Gleason > wrote: > > > > > From: Simran Gleason > > > > Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] best internet > service provider? > > > To: "A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx > (portland, or)" < > > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org> > > > Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 5:48 PM > > > Hello dorks, > > > I just moved to portland (well, just finished > buying a > > > house. haven't quite moved yet), > > > and need to get it set up with hot & cold > running bits. > > > > > > What's the best internet provider? Speakeasy. > qwest, > > > verizon, comcast? others? > > > Do you have any horror storrrries to warn us away > from any > > > of them? > > > Warmfuzzyohyeah recommendations? Are there small > local > > > companies that do a good job > > > of competing with the big bandwidth-limiters? > > > > > > We're in SE (very S, medium E). > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Simran > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > > > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > > > > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > > > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > > > > > > -- > -Frank Canaan > fcanaan@gmail.com_______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber From mtw at vne.net Tue Jul 8 01:48:00 2008 From: mtw at vne.net (Matthew White) Date: Tue Jul 8 01:48:12 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] best internet service provider? In-Reply-To: <289226.65105.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <289226.65105.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080708054800.GN7015@citron.vne.net> I've been using EasyStreet DSL for about 5 years now. No problems at all. -mtw On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 05:48:08PM -0700, Simran Gleason (fermatslasttheremin@yahoo.com) wrote: > > > Hello dorks, > I just moved to portland (well, just finished buying a house. haven't quite moved yet), > and need to get it set up with hot & cold running bits. > > What's the best internet provider? Speakeasy. qwest, verizon, comcast? others? > Do you have any horror storrrries to warn us away from any of them? > Warmfuzzyohyeah recommendations? Are there small local companies that do a good job > of competing with the big bandwidth-limiters? > > We're in SE (very S, medium E). > > Thanks, > Simran > > > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber -- From ddelmardavis at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 02:00:55 2008 From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Delmar Davis) Date: Tue Jul 8 02:00:53 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] best internet service provider? In-Reply-To: <20080708054800.GN7015@citron.vne.net> References: <289226.65105.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20080708054800.GN7015@citron.vne.net> Message-ID: Quest refused to cooperate with the governments most aggregious violations and so would be worth looking into. If you must support sucky corporations I am really happy with sprints broadband which I used in parralel to comcast for about 4 months. I couldn't really tell the difference so I dropped the cable internet. Its pretty cool to drag your broadband where ever you go as well. On Jul 7, 2008, at 10:48 PM, Matthew White wrote: > I've been using EasyStreet DSL for about 5 years now. No problems > at all. > > -mtw > > On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 05:48:08PM -0700, Simran Gleason (fermatslasttheremin@yahoo.com > ) wrote: >> >> >> Hello dorks, >> I just moved to portland (well, just finished buying a house. >> haven't quite moved yet), >> and need to get it set up with hot & cold running bits. >> >> What's the best internet provider? Speakeasy. qwest, verizon, >> comcast? others? >> Do you have any horror storrrries to warn us away from any of them? >> Warmfuzzyohyeah recommendations? Are there small local companies >> that do a good job >> of competing with the big bandwidth-limiters? >> >> We're in SE (very S, medium E). >> >> Thanks, >> Simran >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list >> dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org >> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > > -- > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080707/d17664e4/attachment.html From jboone at earfeast.com Tue Jul 8 02:42:09 2008 From: jboone at earfeast.com (Jared Boone) Date: Tue Jul 8 02:42:04 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] best internet service provider? In-Reply-To: <20080708054800.GN7015@citron.vne.net> References: <289226.65105.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20080708054800.GN7015@citron.vne.net> Message-ID: I've been with EasyStreet over Verizon (Beaverton) or Qwest (NE Portland) DSL for nearly ten years now and I've been happy. That is, as long as I don't need to call Verizon/Qwest technical support... The support staff's understanding of third-party ISP configuration is almost non-existent. There's one woman with Qwest in Utah who knows her stuff. Everyone else blindly reads from a script. EasyStreet support staff is very skilled and can often twist the right screws for you if Qwest isn't being responsive enough. I second what Don had to say about Qwest making more of an effort to block government intrusion, and I'd expect EasyStreet to do so as well. I have recently observed EasyStreet downplaying their residential device, so I fear they may be trying to get out of offering that service. I hope if you decide to use EasyStreet as your ISP, that they're still an option. - Jared On Jul 7, 2008, at 10:48 PM, Matthew White wrote: > I've been using EasyStreet DSL for about 5 years now. No problems > at all. > > -mtw > > On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 05:48:08PM -0700, Simran Gleason (fermatslasttheremin@yahoo.com > ) wrote: >> >> >> Hello dorks, >> I just moved to portland (well, just finished buying a house. >> haven't quite moved yet), >> and need to get it set up with hot & cold running bits. >> >> What's the best internet provider? Speakeasy. qwest, verizon, >> comcast? others? >> Do you have any horror storrrries to warn us away from any of them? >> Warmfuzzyohyeah recommendations? Are there small local companies >> that do a good job >> of competing with the big bandwidth-limiters? >> >> We're in SE (very S, medium E). >> >> Thanks, >> Simran >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list >> dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org >> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > > -- > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber From markgross at thegnar.org Tue Jul 8 10:29:18 2008 From: markgross at thegnar.org (mark gross) Date: Tue Jul 8 10:29:31 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] best internet service provider? In-Reply-To: <289226.65105.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <289226.65105.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080708142918.GA7726@thegnar.org> I wanted to have an email address that was persistent across moves and companies going out of business (remember @home?) I'm using powweb to host my email and my web pages, and I have FIOS to the homestead. Although this year has been lots better, in the past I would be kicked off mailing lists due to bounces from the mailer. It would happen a couple of times per year. --mgross On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 05:48:08PM -0700, Simran Gleason wrote: > > > Hello dorks, > I just moved to portland (well, just finished buying a house. haven't quite moved yet), > and need to get it set up with hot & cold running bits. > > What's the best internet provider? Speakeasy. qwest, verizon, comcast? others? > Do you have any horror storrrries to warn us away from any of them? > Warmfuzzyohyeah recommendations? Are there small local companies that do a good job > of competing with the big bandwidth-limiters? > > We're in SE (very S, medium E). > > Thanks, > Simran > > > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080708/e9221461/attachment.bin From mykle at mykle.com Tue Jul 8 11:37:33 2008 From: mykle at mykle.com (Mykle Hansen) Date: Tue Jul 8 11:37:50 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] best internet service provider? In-Reply-To: References: <289226.65105.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20080708054800.GN7015@citron.vne.net> Message-ID: <96964B83-2ECE-4E75-9F21-07D4D3D781B4@mykle.com> FYI, some people have real strong opinions about Cable vs. DSL. Know this: If you want Cable Internet in Portland, your options are Comcast, Comcast or maybe Comcast. If you want DSL, it comes in two parts. Qwest, the local telco, provides the DSL line and charges for that; but you can have them hook that DSL line to any of a couple dozen local ISPs. Qwest of course would rather you signed up with their ISP, but you have other options. (If you live far enough from central Portland, your telco might be different than Qwest, but the same situation applies. I don't know of anyplace in the wider Portland metro area where you actually have a choice of local telco.) I have had DSL via a small local ISP, Spiretech, for close to a decade. Qwest customer support sucks, but Spiretech's is great. I can always get someone on the phone, and they're usually willing to push problems through Qwest's support dept on my behalf, if necessary. Uptime is excellent. Spiretech is also very specific about not filtering or adjusting or munging any of their clients' traffic. fyi, -m- On Jul 7, 2008, at 11:42 PM, Jared Boone wrote: > I've been with EasyStreet over Verizon (Beaverton) or Qwest (NE > Portland) DSL for nearly ten years now and I've been happy. That > is, as long as I don't need to call Verizon/Qwest technical > support... The support staff's understanding of third-party ISP > configuration is almost non-existent. There's one woman with Qwest > in Utah who knows her stuff. Everyone else blindly reads from a > script. EasyStreet support staff is very skilled and can often > twist the right screws for you if Qwest isn't being responsive enough. > > I second what Don had to say about Qwest making more of an effort > to block government intrusion, and I'd expect EasyStreet to do so > as well. > > I have recently observed EasyStreet downplaying their residential > device, so I fear they may be trying to get out of offering that > service. I hope if you decide to use EasyStreet as your ISP, that > they're still an option. > > - Jared > > On Jul 7, 2008, at 10:48 PM, Matthew White wrote: > >> I've been using EasyStreet DSL for about 5 years now. No problems >> at all. >> >> -mtw >> >> On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 05:48:08PM -0700, Simran Gleason >> (fermatslasttheremin@yahoo.com) wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hello dorks, >>> I just moved to portland (well, just finished buying a house. >>> haven't quite moved yet), >>> and need to get it set up with hot & cold running bits. >>> >>> What's the best internet provider? Speakeasy. qwest, verizon, >>> comcast? others? >>> Do you have any horror storrrries to warn us away from any of them? >>> Warmfuzzyohyeah recommendations? Are there small local companies >>> that do a good job >>> of competing with the big bandwidth-limiters? >>> >>> We're in SE (very S, medium E). >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Simran >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list >>> dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org >>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber >> >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list >> dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org >> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber From subbies at redheadedstepchild.org Tue Jul 8 11:43:08 2008 From: subbies at redheadedstepchild.org (subbies@redheadedstepchild.org) Date: Tue Jul 8 11:43:17 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] best internet service provider? In-Reply-To: <96964B83-2ECE-4E75-9F21-07D4D3D781B4@mykle.com> References: <289226.65105.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20080708054800.GN7015@citron.vne.net> <96964B83-2ECE-4E75-9F21-07D4D3D781B4@mykle.com> Message-ID: I used Spiretech when I was in PDX, and was pretty pleased with them. The people who work there seem to be mainly tech geeks and usually know what they're talking about, which was refreshing. It was a shame I could never find a place to do a straight up dry-loop in town (I really, really didn't want to have to pay a phone util company). But absent that, Spiretech was cool. -Alexis On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Mykle Hansen wrote: ::FYI, some people have real strong opinions about Cable vs. DSL. Know this: :: ::If you want Cable Internet in Portland, your options are Comcast, Comcast ::or maybe Comcast. :: ::If you want DSL, it comes in two parts. Qwest, the local telco, provides the ::DSL line and charges for that; but you can have them hook that DSL line to any ::of a couple dozen local ISPs. Qwest of course would rather you signed up ::with their ISP, but you have other options. :: ::(If you live far enough from central Portland, your telco might be different ::than Qwest, but the same situation applies. I don't know of anyplace ::in the wider Portland metro area where you actually have a choice of local ::telco.) :: ::I have had DSL via a small local ISP, Spiretech, for close to a decade. ::Qwest customer support sucks, but Spiretech's is great. I can always ::get someone on the phone, and they're usually willing to push problems ::through Qwest's support dept on my behalf, if necessary. Uptime is excellent. ::Spiretech is also very specific about not filtering or adjusting or munging ::any of their clients' traffic. :: ::fyi, :: ::-m- :: ::On Jul 7, 2008, at 11:42 PM, Jared Boone wrote: :: ::> I've been with EasyStreet over Verizon (Beaverton) or Qwest (NE Portland) ::> DSL for nearly ten years now and I've been happy. That is, as long as I ::> don't need to call Verizon/Qwest technical support... The support staff's ::> understanding of third-party ISP configuration is almost non-existent. ::> There's one woman with Qwest in Utah who knows her stuff. Everyone else ::> blindly reads from a script. EasyStreet support staff is very skilled and ::> can often twist the right screws for you if Qwest isn't being responsive ::> enough. ::> ::> I second what Don had to say about Qwest making more of an effort to block ::> government intrusion, and I'd expect EasyStreet to do so as well. ::> ::> I have recently observed EasyStreet downplaying their residential device, so ::> I fear they may be trying to get out of offering that service. I hope if you ::> decide to use EasyStreet as your ISP, that they're still an option. ::> ::> - Jared ::> ::> On Jul 7, 2008, at 10:48 PM, Matthew White wrote: ::> ::> > I've been using EasyStreet DSL for about 5 years now. No problems at all. ::> > ::> > -mtw ::> > ::> > On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 05:48:08PM -0700, Simran Gleason ::> > (fermatslasttheremin@yahoo.com) wrote: ::> > > ::> > > ::> > > Hello dorks, ::> > > I just moved to portland (well, just finished buying a house. haven't ::> > > quite moved yet), ::> > > and need to get it set up with hot & cold running bits. ::> > > ::> > > What's the best internet provider? Speakeasy. qwest, verizon, comcast? ::> > > others? ::> > > Do you have any horror storrrries to warn us away from any of them? ::> > > Warmfuzzyohyeah recommendations? Are there small local companies that ::> > > do a good job ::> > > of competing with the big bandwidth-limiters? ::> > > ::> > > We're in SE (very S, medium E). ::> > > ::> > > Thanks, ::> > > Simran ::> > > ::> > > ::> > > ::> > > _______________________________________________ ::> > > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list ::> > > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org ::> > > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber ::> > ::> > -- ::> > _______________________________________________ ::> > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list ::> > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org ::> > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber ::> _______________________________________________ ::> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list ::> dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org ::> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber :: ::_______________________________________________ ::dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list ::dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org ::http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber :: From DdelmarDavis at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 05:08:48 2008 From: DdelmarDavis at gmail.com (Donald Delmar Davis) Date: Sat Jul 12 05:09:05 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Arduino Cult Induction -- 27JUL08 -- Introducing the DORKBOARD! In-Reply-To: <48647037.50501@noisybox.net> References: <48647037.50501@noisybox.net> Message-ID: <9466AC34-4E07-408C-8BAC-42AB12642B6A@gmail.com> If you are like me and pay attention to art and robotics you have probably been hearing a lot about the Arduino micro-controller platform and all of the cool things that people are doing with it. In some circles this platform has almost developed a cult like following. With the Arduino Cult Induction workshops, DorkbotPDX invites you to drink the cool-aid. This workshop will introduce DorkbotPDX's locally designed and produced "Dorkboard", which evolved out of experience building projects around the Arduino platform. DorkbotPDX has put together a cost effective Arduino kit around the Dorkboard and an equally inexpensive programmer. On Sunday, July 27th from 1 to 6 PM at PNCA (1240 NW Johnson -- Room 205 ) we will help you put yours together. The cost of the workshop is $25 and is limited to the space the prebuilt kits we will have on hand (30) so if you want to make sure that you get a spot you can prepay for your kit (paypal this address) or email me to RSVP. You will need to bring a laptop, a usb cable (standard b type ), a soldering iron (10-20 watt pencil type) and a pair of dikes (wire cutters). We will spend the first few hours putting the kit together and then after taking a short break we will load the software on your computers and use it to program your micro-controller. Please be prompt as there is lots of ground to cover. There is more information at http://dorkbotpdx.org/Workshops/ACI3 See you there. 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June 30? On 7/12/08, Mr.T wrote: > > then next group order goes out june 30th for distribution at > the july 21st meeting > > as usual all the information is here: > http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/dorkbotpdx_group_ordering > > remember to place your orders early so people can see them > and perhaps get > ideas. > > -have fun > > -eric > > > _____________________________ > Drtwist: > drtwist@aracnet.com > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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July 21st? :) For the record, I'm pretty sure this should have been parts order goes in on the 14th of July (tomorrow) for the meeting the following Monday (28th of July) -jason From tlockney at gmail.com Sun Jul 13 14:18:26 2008 From: tlockney at gmail.com (Thomas Lockney) Date: Sun Jul 13 14:18:40 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] monday july 14th is group order day In-Reply-To: <487A40DF.4030500@noisybox.net> References: <8e6971a90807130054q591fe7e2gfe5b90a480e84a3b@mail.gmail.com> <487A40DF.4030500@noisybox.net> Message-ID: <1215973106.28525.0.camel@tardis> On Sun, 2008-07-13 at 10:52 -0700, Jason Plumb wrote: > > On 7/12/08, *Mr.T* > > > wrote: > > then next group order goes out june 30th for distribution at > > the july 21st meeting > dan p wrote: > > June 30? > > July 21st? :) > > For the record, I'm pretty sure this should have been parts order goes > in on the 14th of July (tomorrow) for the meeting the following Monday > (28th of July) Sadly, even Jason couldn't get the dates right. The next meeting will be the 21st, NOT the 28th. ;~) From gunterhausfrau at gmail.com Sun Jul 13 14:34:18 2008 From: gunterhausfrau at gmail.com (dan p) Date: Sun Jul 13 14:34:26 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] monday july 14th is group order day In-Reply-To: <1215973106.28525.0.camel@tardis> References: <8e6971a90807130054q591fe7e2gfe5b90a480e84a3b@mail.gmail.com> <487A40DF.4030500@noisybox.net> <1215973106.28525.0.camel@tardis> Message-ID: <8e6971a90807131134o160a268ap22da03b161c473a2@mail.gmail.com> I'm still learning about the temporal dislocation functionallity on the arduino... On 7/13/08, Thomas Lockney wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-07-13 at 10:52 -0700, Jason Plumb wrote: > > > On 7/12/08, *Mr.T* > > > > wrote: > > > then next group order goes out june 30th for distribution at > > > the july 21st meeting > > dan p wrote: > > > June 30? > > > > July 21st? :) > > > > For the record, I'm pretty sure this should have been parts order goes > > in on the 14th of July (tomorrow) for the meeting the following Monday > > (28th of July) > > Sadly, even Jason couldn't get the dates right. The next meeting will be > the 21st, NOT the 28th. ;~) > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080713/2590145d/attachment.html From jason at noisybox.net Sun Jul 13 14:55:15 2008 From: jason at noisybox.net (Jason Plumb) Date: Sun Jul 13 14:58:38 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] monday july 14th is group order day In-Reply-To: <1215973106.28525.0.camel@tardis> References: <8e6971a90807130054q591fe7e2gfe5b90a480e84a3b@mail.gmail.com> <487A40DF.4030500@noisybox.net> <1215973106.28525.0.camel@tardis> Message-ID: <487A4F93.5080600@noisybox.net> Thomas Lockney wrote: > Sadly, even Jason couldn't get the dates right. The next meeting will be > the 21st, NOT the 28th. ;~) Holy crap. Just wow. Somehow I knew that was gonna happen. :) -jason From markgross at thegnar.org Sun Jul 13 18:10:00 2008 From: markgross at thegnar.org (mark gross) Date: Sun Jul 13 18:10:22 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] requests for comments on talk Message-ID: <20080713221000.GA23718@thegnar.org> I just finished the first draft of a slide deck for a talk I'm giving in a week and a half. As the its a "tips and tricks" type of talk that is currently limited to my experiences, I thought it could be cool if I got addition input from the dork's out there. The talk is on "setting up a decent" developer box for OSS community work. I have the draft slide deck up on my web page along with some supplementary web content the deck references. Any comments / advice is welcome. see: www.thegnar.org/devbox thanks, --mgross -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080713/015ed368/attachment-0001.bin From drtwist at aracnet.com Sun Jul 13 18:49:14 2008 From: drtwist at aracnet.com (Mr.T) Date: Sun Jul 13 18:49:23 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] monday july 14th is group order day In-Reply-To: <8e6971a90807130054q591fe7e2gfe5b90a480e84a3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: that should be july 14th for the meeting on the 21st the dangers of cuttting and pasting _____________________________ Drtwist: drtwist@aracnet.com On Sun, 13 Jul 2008, dan p wrote: > ?? > > June 30? > > > On 7/12/08, Mr.T wrote: > > > > then next group order goes out june 30th for distribution at > > the july 21st meeting > > > > as usual all the information is here: > > http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/dorkbotpdx_group_ordering > > > > remember to place your orders early so people can see them > > and perhaps get > > ideas. > > > > -have fun > > > > -eric > > > > > > _____________________________ > > Drtwist: > > drtwist@aracnet.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > > > From jacob at technosorcery.net Sun Jul 13 18:49:30 2008 From: jacob at technosorcery.net (Jacob Helwig) Date: Sun Jul 13 18:49:37 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] requests for comments on talk In-Reply-To: <20080713221000.GA23718@thegnar.org> References: <20080713221000.GA23718@thegnar.org> Message-ID: <8c9a060807131549l2708312bx4336251820a07b5e@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 15:10, mark gross wrote: > I just finished the first draft of a slide deck for a talk I'm giving > in a week and a half. As the its a "tips and tricks" type of talk > that is currently limited to my experiences, I thought it could be cool > if I got addition input from the dork's out there. > > The talk is on "setting up a decent" developer box for OSS community > work. I have the draft slide deck up on my web page along with some > supplementary web content the deck references. > > Any comments / advice is welcome. > see: > www.thegnar.org/devbox > > thanks, > > --mgross > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFIen04hK5OsmQOmSARAnqiAJwLLRAx9WR8NuBtOHP5HadvhWL5ygCgkEcr > 1310idWc4f4Hm01WcHsUDd4= > =PGNe > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > Quick note on the GitTipsThatHelp page. The dashed form of commands (git-foo) are deprecated, and the latest git doesn't install them anymore. You might want to update the page with the non-dashed versions of commands (git foo). From markgross at thegnar.org Sun Jul 13 21:33:15 2008 From: markgross at thegnar.org (mark gross) Date: Sun Jul 13 21:33:29 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] requests for comments on talk In-Reply-To: <8c9a060807131549l2708312bx4336251820a07b5e@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080713221000.GA23718@thegnar.org> <8c9a060807131549l2708312bx4336251820a07b5e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080714013315.GA24049@thegnar.org> On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 03:49:30PM -0700, Jacob Helwig wrote: > On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 15:10, mark gross wrote: > > I just finished the first draft of a slide deck for a talk I'm giving > > in a week and a half. As the its a "tips and tricks" type of talk > > that is currently limited to my experiences, I thought it could be cool > > if I got addition input from the dork's out there. > > > > The talk is on "setting up a decent" developer box for OSS community > > work. I have the draft slide deck up on my web page along with some > > supplementary web content the deck references. > > > > Any comments / advice is welcome. > > see: > > www.thegnar.org/devbox > > > > thanks, > > > > --mgross > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFIen04hK5OsmQOmSARAnqiAJwLLRAx9WR8NuBtOHP5HadvhWL5ygCgkEcr > > 1310idWc4f4Hm01WcHsUDd4= > > =PGNe > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > > > > Quick note on the GitTipsThatHelp page. The dashed form of commands > (git-foo) are deprecated, and the latest git doesn't install them > anymore. You might want to update the page with the non-dashed > versions of commands (git foo). Thanks! I'll check that out and update. --mgross -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080713/219f8bcd/attachment.bin From ddelmardavis at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 00:29:56 2008 From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Davis) Date: Mon Jul 14 00:30:00 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Dorkboards and group orders. Message-ID: <8D34943E-D517-4F62-B8CE-AFCAF08506B4@digithink.com> After looking at the group ordering and the kits and some discussion with Eric I though we should take a different approach to the "Kits". As an experiment the Dorkboards and Dorkboard "kits" will be rolled into the group ordering process and I will be applying the quantity pricing for the kits to the group. So looking at the component breakdowns if you look at the kits at quantity 1, 25 and 100. PART Description 1 ATMEGA168-20PU-ND Mega168 4.11 2.6 2.4 1 311-220ERCT-ND 220 Ohm Resisto 0.08 0.08 0.42 1 RHM10KERCT-ND 10K Resistor 0.04 0.04 0.28 1 3M5480-ND socket 0.3 0.26 0.21 1 399-4266-ND .1uf cap 0.16 0.12 0.08 1 P969-ND 47 uf cap 0.1 0.1 0.08 1 475-1401-ND LED 0.7 0.6 0.5 Mouser Resonators 0.46 0.41 0.36 (Sure Electronics) Headers 1.5 0.6 0.6 DorkBoard Dorkboard! 2.5 1.54 1.1 9.95 6.35 6.03 To sweeten this I will be routing the parts I need for the next induction through the group order. That means if the group wants either dorkboards or kits they should add a "dorkboard" or "dorkboard kit" and for this order it should automatically be at the quantity 25 price. Also since this is late notice Eric is extending this weeks order time until tuesday. One small issue is that the only reasonably priced headers (male and female) is through sure electronics and so they may not arrive in time however if this works out we will try to keep stock on hand. I will be posting a parts list for the Benito serial boards and offer the same deal. Don. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080713/9e0fe054/attachment.html From ddelmardavis at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 04:13:39 2008 From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Davis) Date: Mon Jul 14 04:13:36 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Benito7 rev g Boards avaliable through group Order Message-ID: <85A3D959-914E-4C2F-9F2B-C1098159C04F@digithink.com> For those who want to try out surface mount soldering and start working with the atmel at90USB chipset you can add a Benito "Kit" to the group order. The chip is a tqfp and the other components are 805s so these can be hand soldered (It takes me about 20 minutes to assemble one). And as these are the programmers for the Cult Induction if you want to get these at the q25 price you should order one during this round. This is the beakdown for 1, 25 and 100 "kits" 2 475-2560-1-ND LEDs 0.14 0.12 0.1 1 AT90USB162 usb chip 3.76 3.15 2.8 2 RHM10KARCT-ND 10k resistors 0.04 0.03 0.02 2 RHM220ACT-ND 220 resitors 0.14 0.08 0.05 2 RHM22ACT-ND 22 resistors 0.16 0.08 0.05 1 631-1099-ND 8 Mhz xtal 0.5 0.5 0.4 1 399-1168-1-ND .1uf cap 0.05 0.03 0.02 1 399-1284-1-ND 1uf cap 0.1 0.06 0.04 2 PCC220CNCT-ND 22pf cap 0.44 0.44 0.1 1 PCC2232CT-ND 4.7uf cap 0.33 0.33 0.17 1 609-1039-ND USB conn 1.03 0.55 0.47 Benito7g 4 1.6 1.25 10.69 6.97 5.47 I will not be doing a workshop on these yet but if more than 6 people are interested we will put together an assembly party. Have Fun! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080714/050b7690/attachment-0001.html From james.neal at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 13:38:50 2008 From: james.neal at gmail.com (Laen) Date: Mon Jul 14 13:38:57 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Re: [GroupOrder] monday july 14th is group order day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Qty 10, Digikey, P11969-ND, MICROPHONE OMNI 6X2.2MM W/CAP Qty 10, Digikey, LM2917N-8-ND, IC CONVERTER FREQ TO VOLT 8-DIP Qty 10, Digikey, TC7660CPA-ND, IC CHARGE PUMP DC/DC CONV 8-DIP Qty 10, Digikey, LM386N-1-ND, IC AMP AUDIO POWER LOW V 8-DIP Thanks once again for doing these group orders! -Laen On Jul 12, 9:40 pm, "Mr.T" wrote: > then next group order goes out june 30th for distribution at > the july 21st meeting > > as usual all the information is here: > http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/dorkbotpdx_group_ordering > > remember to place your orders early so people can see them > and perhaps get > ideas. > > -have fun > > -eric > > _____________________________ > Drtwist: > drtw...@aracnet.com > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blab...@dorkbot.orghttp://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber From gepr at tempusdictum.com Mon Jul 14 14:57:42 2008 From: gepr at tempusdictum.com (glen e. p. ropella) Date: Mon Jul 14 14:57:59 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] monday july 14th is group order day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <487BA1A6.40001@tempusdictum.com> I'd like to order: 20 dorkboard kits 20 dorkboard programmer kits Mr.T wrote: > then next group order goes out june 30th for distribution at > the july 21st meeting > > as usual all the information is here: > http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/dorkbotpdx_group_ordering > > remember to place your orders early so people can see them > and perhaps get > ideas. > > -have fun > > -eric From ddelmardavis at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 19:57:25 2008 From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Delmar Davis) Date: Mon Jul 14 19:57:25 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Re: [GroupOrder] monday july 14th is group order day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <327413FA-E471-4FBE-AAED-2C8D6C55E256@gmail.com> Digikey 1 2 P8090SCT-ND SWITCH LIGHT TOUCH 160GF SMD 0 0.46000 $0.92 2 10 CKN9125CT-ND SWITCH TACT 5.25MM 160GF SMD 0 0.56000 $5.60 3 100 475-1278-1-ND LED CHIPLED 633NM RED 0805 SMD 0 0.04760 $4.76 4 5 401-1426-1-ND SWITCH TACT SPST-NO 100GF GW SMD 0 0.45000 $2.25 5 4 S5751-12-ND CONN RECEPT 2MM SINGLE STR 12POS 0 1.25000 $5.00 6 3 S5751-10-ND CONN RECEPT 2MM SINGLE STR 10POS 0 1.05000 $3.15 7 3 296-1085-1-ND IC HEX SCHMITT-TRIG INV 14-SOIC 0 0.39000 $1.17 8 15 641-1017-1-ND DIODE GEN PURPOSE 400V 1A SMA 0 0.18000 $2.70 9 10 743C083104JCT-ND RES ARRAY 100KOHM 8TERM 4RES SMD 0 0.16100 $1.61 10 2 296-21634-5-ND IC REG POS-VOLT 500MA 3.3V TO220 0 0.76000 $1.52 11 2 TC1107-3.3VOA-ND IC REG LDO 3.3V 300MA 8SOIC 0 0.78000 $1.56 Plus, 5 Dorkboard Kits 5 Benito Kits Don. On Jul 14, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Laen wrote: > Qty 10, Digikey, P11969-ND, MICROPHONE OMNI 6X2.2MM W/CAP > Qty 10, Digikey, LM2917N-8-ND, IC CONVERTER FREQ TO VOLT 8-DIP > Qty 10, Digikey, TC7660CPA-ND, IC CHARGE PUMP DC/DC CONV 8-DIP > Qty 10, Digikey, LM386N-1-ND, IC AMP AUDIO POWER LOW V 8-DIP > > Thanks once again for doing these group orders! > -Laen > > On Jul 12, 9:40 pm, "Mr.T" wrote: >> then next group order goes out june 30th for distribution at >> the july 21st meeting >> >> as usual all the information is here: >> http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/dorkbotpdx_group_ordering >> >> remember to place your orders early so people can see them >> and perhaps get >> ideas. >> >> -have fun >> >> -eric >> >> _____________________________ >> Drtwist: >> drtw...@aracnet.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list >> dorkbotpdx-blab...@dorkbot.orghttp://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080714/6f3bcdf4/attachment.html From tlockney at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 20:46:36 2008 From: tlockney at gmail.com (Thomas Lockney) Date: Mon Jul 14 20:46:46 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] monday july 14th is group order day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Put me down for 5 of the dorkboards and 2 programmers. On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Mr.T wrote: > then next group order goes out june 30th for distribution at > the july 21st meeting > > as usual all the information is here: > http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/dorkbotpdx_group_ordering > > remember to place your orders early so people can see them > and perhaps get > ideas. > > -have fun > > -eric > > > _____________________________ > Drtwist: > drtwist@aracnet.com > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > -- Thomas Lockney | tlockney@gmail.com | http://opposable-thumbs.net From ben at bleything.net Mon Jul 14 20:55:45 2008 From: ben at bleything.net (Ben Bleything) Date: Mon Jul 14 20:57:28 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] monday july 14th is group order day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080715005545.GA70514@bleything.net> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008, Thomas Lockney wrote: > Put me down for 5 of the dorkboards and 2 programmers. Me too please :) Ben From jason at noisybox.net Tue Jul 15 03:24:05 2008 From: jason at noisybox.net (Jason Plumb) Date: Tue Jul 15 03:24:27 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] In-Reply-To: <20080715005545.GA70514@bleything.net> References: <20080715005545.GA70514@bleything.net> Message-ID: <487C5095.5020101@noisybox.net> quantity part total 1 281-2167-ND $4.43 2 277-1808-ND $3.10 3 PC41-ND $11.61 4 MC74HC4066ADR2GOSCT-ND $1.96 4 MM74HC595M-ND $2.04 Plus I'd like 2 dorkboards and 2 benitos. Thanks! -jason From grinich at MIT.EDU Tue Jul 15 12:29:41 2008 From: grinich at MIT.EDU (Michael Grinich) Date: Tue Jul 15 12:30:09 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] monday july 14th is group order day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'd like to order 2 dorkboards and 2 benitos kits. _Michael_ On Jul 12, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Mr.T wrote: > then next group order goes out june 30th for distribution at > the july 21st meeting > > as usual all the information is here: > http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/dorkbotpdx_group_ordering > > remember to place your orders early so people can see them > and perhaps get > ideas. > > -have fun > > -eric > > > _____________________________ > Drtwist: > drtwist@aracnet.com > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber From gunterhausfrau at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 14:38:29 2008 From: gunterhausfrau at gmail.com (dan p) Date: Tue Jul 15 14:38:40 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] monday july 14th is group order day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8e6971a90807151138q60bd3c7fi51a10af1ad32edd5@mail.gmail.com> Please put me down for 3 dorkbord kits and 2 benito kits. Thanks. Dan. On 7/15/08, Michael Grinich wrote: > > I'd like to order 2 dorkboards and 2 benitos kits. > _Michael_ > > > On Jul 12, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Mr.T wrote: > > then next group order goes out june 30th for distribution at >> the july 21st meeting >> >> as usual all the information is here: >> http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/dorkbotpdx_group_ordering >> >> remember to place your orders early so people can see them >> and perhaps get >> ideas. >> >> -have fun >> >> -eric >> >> >> _____________________________ >> Drtwist: >> drtwist@aracnet.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list >> dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org >> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber >> > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080715/1539d1da/attachment.html From bdddavies at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 15:14:28 2008 From: bdddavies at gmail.com (Brian Davies) Date: Tue Jul 15 15:14:39 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] monday july 14th is group order day In-Reply-To: <8e6971a90807151138q60bd3c7fi51a10af1ad32edd5@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e6971a90807151138q60bd3c7fi51a10af1ad32edd5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 1 benito kit 1 dorkbord IF the order has not already gone out . . .which is entirely possible . .. in which case I'll catch the next one. Thanks! BD On 7/15/08, dan p wrote: > > Please put me down for 3 dorkbord kits and 2 benito kits. > > Thanks. > Dan. > > > On 7/15/08, Michael Grinich wrote: >> >> I'd like to order 2 dorkboards and 2 benitos kits. >> _Michael_ >> >> >> On Jul 12, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Mr.T wrote: >> >> then next group order goes out june 30th for distribution at >>> the july 21st meeting >>> >>> as usual all the information is here: >>> http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/dorkbotpdx_group_ordering >>> >>> remember to place your orders early so people can see them >>> and perhaps get >>> ideas. >>> >>> -have fun >>> >>> -eric >>> >>> >>> _____________________________ >>> Drtwist: >>> drtwist@aracnet.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list >>> dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org >>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list >> dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org >> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber >> > > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I can order later if it's too late etc. Thanks much, BD On 7/15/08, Mr.T wrote: > > do you mean "dorkboard" as in just the pcb, or "dorkboard kit" like the > pcb plus parts > > _____________________________ > Drtwist: > drtwist@aracnet.com > > On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Brian Davies wrote: > > > 1 benito kit > > 1 dorkbord > > > > IF the order has not already gone out . . .which is entirely possible . > .. > > in which case I'll catch the next one. > > Thanks! > > BD > > > > > > On 7/15/08, dan p wrote: > > > > > > Please put me down for 3 dorkbord kits and 2 benito kits. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > Dan. > > > > > > > > > On 7/15/08, Michael Grinich wrote: > > >> > > >> I'd like to order 2 dorkboards and 2 benitos kits. > > >> _Michael_ > > >> > > >> > > >> On Jul 12, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Mr.T wrote: > > >> > > >> then next group order goes out june 30th for distribution at > > >>> the july 21st meeting > > >>> > > >>> as usual all the information is here: > > >>> http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/dorkbotpdx_group_ordering > > >>> > > >>> remember to place your orders early so people can see them > > >>> and perhaps get > > >>> ideas. > > >>> > > >>> -have fun > > >>> > > >>> -eric > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> _____________________________ > > >>> Drtwist: > > >>> drtwist@aracnet.com > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > > >>> dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > > >>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > > >>> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > > >> dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > > >> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > > > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > > > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080716/c86f72f5/attachment-0001.html From curator at ongallery.org Wed Jul 16 19:09:09 2008 From: curator at ongallery.org (Benjamin Foote) Date: Wed Jul 16 19:09:26 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Dorkbot participation at ON Gallery / Makerlab booth at OSCON Message-ID: <10e900420807161609l4f454d8cg20c6ce42ee70f85c@mail.gmail.com> Hello Dorkbot! ON Gallery and Makerlab has a 10 x 20 booth at OSCON in the exhibitors hall next week and we'd like to invite folks from Dorkbot to show off Arduino projects. Paige or Anselm might have mentioned ON to some of you. We're a new gallery in the Everett Station Lofts devoted to interactive and technology based art. http://ONgallery.org (not much there - feel free to drop by and check out the space) Specific pieces for the show include a) an aggregation and display of images using flickr tags oscon08, oscon and using image matching technology developed by Makerlab b) the projection portions of WHEREIS which will open at Disject this Saturday July 19th http://makerlab.com/projects_show_whereis.html c) large scale video projection by Drew Anderson I'd love to add Dorkbot and some of the Arduino projects to that list. I really want to give visitors to Portland and OSCON a sense of all the excellent work that is going on here in Portland. The schedule for the OSCON booth... Tues 2pm - 6pm install, setup booth Wed 10am - 7:30pm exhibit hall is open Thu 10am - 5pm exhibit hall is open It would be preferable to have any pieces (Arduinos) available for the Tuesday install, though an early drop off on Wednesday could be workable. Also we're looking for some volunteer support for the conference. Basically just hanging out for a few hours and being amiable and talking to people about Dorkbot, Arduinos, ON Gallery and Makerlab and art and things that we might do together for art's sake. The booth will be issued a conference pass which can be lent out and I hope volunteers will want to use it for select talks and topics. http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2008/public/schedule/grid Please do contact me ASAP if you are interested in participating. Cheers, ben 971-925-1254 I'm including the gallery's most recent press release below to give you just a little sense of what's going on. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE ON Gallery opens in the Everett Station Lofts with "Departure": illustration, large format videography and video conference by artist Drew Anderson. About "Departure" Oregon artist Drew Anderson shows a vast body of his work in his Departure show. A long time resident, Drew has shown throughout Portland for the past decade. Here we showcase a variety of his recent work, from intricate weaves of ink on both paper and antique cabinet cards, to original block cuts. A new series entitled Buy My Sketchbook (http://www.buymysketchbook.com), which has recently been on display in London and Tokyo, will be viewed as a large-scale projection. Despite his recent move to Brooklyn NY, the artist will be present virtually via video conference, and ready to answer any questions. This show will be an exciting exploration of imagination and whimsy, and may be the last we see of this artist for some time. About Drew Anderson Find out more about Drew and his ongoing online project: Millions of Hundred Dollar Ideas at http://www.Mohdi.com About ON Gallery ON Gallery is a new addition to the Everett Station Galleries. ON Gallery is a project focussed on exploring the relationship between art and technology by displaying technology and interactive media in a gallery setting. ON Gallery is now seeking artists and collaborators to show 2d, 3d, installation, videography, interaction, kinetic sculpture and other artistic practices which are supported or informed by technology. Please send proposals in pdf or plain text format to callforartists@ongallery.org ON Gallery 321 NW 6th Avenue #101 Portland, OR 97209 971-925-1254 http://ongallery.org curator@ongallery.org -- Benjamin Foote http://pdxstump.com - a search engine and news aggregator for Portland http://ONgallery.org - an art gallery for interactive media http://bnf.net - Linux and Java Consulting 971-925-1254 Call For Artists - ON Gallery is looking for interactive and multimedia art for First Thursdays in Downtown Portland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080716/60b061ec/attachment.html From dementedchihuahua at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 11:24:28 2008 From: dementedchihuahua at gmail.com (Dem Chi) Date: Thu Jul 17 11:24:40 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Dorkbot participation at ON Gallery / Makerlab booth at OSCON In-Reply-To: <10e900420807161609l4f454d8cg20c6ce42ee70f85c@mail.gmail.com> References: <10e900420807161609l4f454d8cg20c6ce42ee70f85c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6dbff3170807170824x3ac257dp75deb01dad525dda@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I'm Stanley Ames. Well, I don't really know if it counts as an "arduino project" per se but I do have a project with an Arduino in it. I've got a RepStrap machine that I wouldn't mind standing around and talking about...or anything else for that matter. Count me in. I'd also like to volunteer. That, I think, would be pretty awesome. Definitely count me in on that! On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Benjamin Foote wrote: > Hello Dorkbot! > > ON Gallery and Makerlab has a 10 x 20 booth at OSCON in the exhibitors hall > next week and we'd like to invite folks from Dorkbot to show off Arduino > projects. > > Paige or Anselm might have mentioned ON to some of you. We're a new > gallery in the Everett Station Lofts devoted to interactive and technology > based art. > http://ONgallery.org (not much there - feel free to drop by and check out > the space) > > Specific pieces for the show include > a) an aggregation and display of images using flickr tags oscon08, oscon > and using image matching technology developed by Makerlab > b) the projection portions of WHEREIS which will open at Disject this > Saturday July 19th > http://makerlab.com/projects_show_whereis.html > c) large scale video projection by Drew Anderson > > I'd love to add Dorkbot and some of the Arduino projects to that list. I > really want to give visitors to Portland and OSCON a sense of all the > excellent work that is going on here in Portland. > > The schedule for the OSCON booth... > Tues 2pm - 6pm install, setup booth > Wed 10am - 7:30pm exhibit hall is open > Thu 10am - 5pm exhibit hall is open > > It would be preferable to have any pieces (Arduinos) available for the > Tuesday install, though an early drop off on Wednesday could be workable. > > Also we're looking for some volunteer support for the conference. > Basically just hanging out for a few hours and being amiable and talking to > people about Dorkbot, Arduinos, ON Gallery and Makerlab and art and things > that we might do together for art's sake. > > The booth will be issued a conference pass which can be lent out and I hope > volunteers will want to use it for select talks and topics. > http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2008/public/schedule/grid > > Please do contact me ASAP if you are interested in participating. > > Cheers, > > ben > > 971-925-1254 > > I'm including the gallery's most recent press release below to give you > just a little sense of what's going on. > > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > ON Gallery opens in the Everett Station Lofts with "Departure": > illustration, large format videography and video conference by artist Drew > Anderson. > > About "Departure" > > Oregon artist Drew Anderson shows a vast body of his work in his Departure > show. A long time resident, Drew has shown throughout Portland for the past > decade. Here we showcase a variety of his recent work, from intricate weaves > of ink on both paper and antique cabinet cards, to original block cuts. > > A new series entitled Buy My Sketchbook (http://www.buymysketchbook.com), > which has recently been on display in London and Tokyo, will be viewed as a > large-scale projection. > > Despite his recent move to Brooklyn NY, the artist will be present > virtually via video conference, and ready to answer any questions. > > This show will be an exciting exploration of imagination and whimsy, and > may be the last we see of this artist for some time. > > About Drew Anderson > > Find out more about Drew and his ongoing online project: Millions of > Hundred Dollar Ideas at http://www.Mohdi.com > > About ON Gallery > > ON Gallery is a new addition to the Everett Station Galleries. > > ON Gallery is a project focussed on exploring the relationship between > art and technology by displaying technology and interactive media in a > gallery setting. > > ON Gallery is now seeking artists and collaborators to show 2d, 3d, > installation, videography, interaction, kinetic sculpture and other > artistic practices which are supported or informed by technology. > Please send proposals in pdf or plain text format to > callforartists@ongallery.org > > ON Gallery > 321 NW 6th Avenue #101 > Portland, OR 97209 > 971-925-1254 > http://ongallery.org > curator@ongallery.org > > > -- > Benjamin Foote > http://pdxstump.com - a search engine and news aggregator for Portland > http://ONgallery.org - an art gallery for interactive media > http://bnf.net - Linux and Java Consulting > 971-925-1254 > > Call For Artists - ON Gallery is looking for interactive and multimedia art > for First Thursdays in Downtown Portland > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > -- "...the individual condition of each of us is tragic. 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By no stretch of the imagination art, but can be programmed to turn anything plugged into it on or off based on temp (which it displays in oh so exciting 2x7-segment display) your welcome to have it for show and tell, but again, not art, functional (not that art doesn't have a function, but asthetics will not keep my plants from freezing come winter) Dan.. On 7/17/08, Dem Chi wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm Stanley Ames. Well, I don't really know if it counts as an "arduino > project" per se but I do have a project with an Arduino in it. I've got a > RepStrap machine that I wouldn't mind standing around and talking about...or > anything else for that matter. Count me in. > > I'd also like to volunteer. That, I think, would be pretty awesome. > Definitely count me in on that! > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Benjamin Foote > wrote: > >> Hello Dorkbot! >> >> ON Gallery and Makerlab has a 10 x 20 booth at OSCON in the exhibitors >> hall next week and we'd like to invite folks from Dorkbot to show off >> Arduino projects. >> >> Paige or Anselm might have mentioned ON to some of you. We're a new >> gallery in the Everett Station Lofts devoted to interactive and technology >> based art. >> http://ONgallery.org (not much there - feel free >> to drop by and check out the space) >> >> Specific pieces for the show include >> a) an aggregation and display of images using flickr tags oscon08, oscon >> and using image matching technology developed by Makerlab >> b) the projection portions of WHEREIS which will open at Disject this >> Saturday July 19th >> http://makerlab.com/projects_show_whereis.html >> c) large scale video projection by Drew Anderson >> >> I'd love to add Dorkbot and some of the Arduino projects to that list. I >> really want to give visitors to Portland and OSCON a sense of all the >> excellent work that is going on here in Portland. >> >> The schedule for the OSCON booth... >> Tues 2pm - 6pm install, setup booth >> Wed 10am - 7:30pm exhibit hall is open >> Thu 10am - 5pm exhibit hall is open >> >> It would be preferable to have any pieces (Arduinos) available for the >> Tuesday install, though an early drop off on Wednesday could be workable. >> >> Also we're looking for some volunteer support for the conference. >> Basically just hanging out for a few hours and being amiable and talking to >> people about Dorkbot, Arduinos, ON Gallery and Makerlab and art and things >> that we might do together for art's sake. >> >> The booth will be issued a conference pass which can be lent out and I >> hope volunteers will want to use it for select talks and topics. >> http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2008/public/schedule/grid >> >> Please do contact me ASAP if you are interested in participating. >> >> Cheers, >> >> ben >> >> 971-925-1254 >> >> I'm including the gallery's most recent press release below to give you >> just a little sense of what's going on. >> >> >> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE >> >> ON Gallery opens in the Everett Station Lofts with "Departure": >> illustration, large format videography and video conference by artist Drew >> Anderson. >> >> About "Departure" >> >> Oregon artist Drew Anderson shows a vast body of his work in his Departure >> show. A long time resident, Drew has shown throughout Portland for the past >> decade. Here we showcase a variety of his recent work, from intricate weaves >> of ink on both paper and antique cabinet cards, to original block cuts. >> >> A new series entitled Buy My Sketchbook (http://www.buymysketchbook.com), >> which has recently been on display in London and Tokyo, will be viewed as a >> large-scale projection. >> >> Despite his recent move to Brooklyn NY, the artist will be present >> virtually via video conference, and ready to answer any questions. >> >> This show will be an exciting exploration of imagination and whimsy, and >> may be the last we see of this artist for some time. >> >> About Drew Anderson >> >> Find out more about Drew and his ongoing online project: Millions of >> Hundred Dollar Ideas at http://www.Mohdi.com >> >> About ON Gallery >> >> ON Gallery is a new addition to the Everett Station Galleries. >> >> ON Gallery is a project focussed on exploring the relationship between >> art and technology by displaying technology and interactive media in a >> gallery setting. >> >> ON Gallery is now seeking artists and collaborators to show 2d, 3d, >> installation, videography, interaction, kinetic sculpture and other >> artistic practices which are supported or informed by technology. >> Please send proposals in pdf or plain text format to >> callforartists@ongallery.org >> >> ON Gallery >> 321 NW 6th Avenue #101 >> Portland, OR 97209 >> 971-925-1254 >> http://ongallery.org >> curator@ongallery.org >> >> >> -- >> Benjamin Foote >> http://pdxstump.com - a search engine and news aggregator for Portland >> http://ONgallery.org - an art gallery for >> interactive media >> http://bnf.net - Linux and Java Consulting >> 971-925-1254 >> >> Call For Artists - ON Gallery is looking for interactive and multimedia >> art for First Thursdays in Downtown Portland >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list >> dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org >> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber >> > > > > -- > "...the individual condition of each of us is tragic. Each of us is alone: > sometimes we escape from solitariness, through love or affection or perhaps > creative moments, but those triumphs of life are pools of light we make for > ourselves while the edge of the road is black: each of us dies alone." > C.P. Snow > The Two Cultures > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080717/869df803/attachment-0001.html From paul at pjrc.com Sat Jul 19 18:42:02 2008 From: paul at pjrc.com (Paul Stoffregen) Date: Sat Jul 19 18:41:42 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Dorkbot participation at ON Gallery / Makerlab booth at OSCON In-Reply-To: <10e900420807161609l4f454d8cg20c6ce42ee70f85c@mail.gmail.com> References: <10e900420807161609l4f454d8cg20c6ce42ee70f85c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48826DBA.2090702@pjrc.com> I'm planning to show the Disk Spin project. Already contacted Ben off-list, just wanted to follow up here. I'll also bring it by the meeting Monday night. -Paul From tlockney at gmail.com Sun Jul 20 00:40:27 2008 From: tlockney at gmail.com (Thomas Lockney) Date: Sun Jul 20 00:40:38 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Urgent help needed Message-ID: So, as most of you are aware, Don has been putting on an excellent series of workshops around the Arduino platform most recently incorporating an Arduino-clone of his own design (the Dorkboard) and a programmer known as the Benito. The next workshop is scheduled for next Sunday, the 27th. Unfortunately, I just found out today that Don was in a motorcycle accident. He has a broken clavicle and can't really use his left hand. The extra difficulty is that the Benito programmers needed for next weekends workshop still need to be assembled. Don has already placed the processors on each of the boards, but they still need the remaining components soldered. Don is doing ok and apparently still feels good about being able to run the workshops next week, but we need to try and get these programmers ready in time. I proposed two possibilities that came to mind when I spoke to him earlier, considering, of course, that OSCON is taking place this week and many of us will be quite busy with activities related to that. Option 1 is that we try to get together a good sized handful of those who feel they are capable of handling this soldering task (a few 805 form SMT components need to be done along with the USB socket and headers, I believe) for an assembly "party" of sorts. The only good time I can see for doing this would probably be early in the day next Saturday -- but that's based on my own personal schedule. If enough people are available at some other time, that could work out. Option 2 would be to have similar skilled folks each grab a handful of boards and assemble them on their own and bring them back to Don sometime later in the week.The problem here is that Don can't really debug them until he gets them back -- which is a problem if there are issues with the boards. So, I'm leaning towards option 1, myself. But we have some logistical issues... we need a good place. Someplace with good light, table space and ventilation. Oh, and of course it has to be available at a time when enough of us are able to help out... So, what can you do? If you have the skills to do SMT soldering and feel comfortable helping out, let me know what your availability is this week. If you have a good space or know of one that would be readily available (with little work involved in getting it set up, preferrably), please let me know ASAP. Any other reasonable suggestions are welcome. If you have some other means of helping that I haven't thought of, please let me know. ~thomas 971-322-9408 (feel free to call -- I'll call back when I can) From drtwist at aracnet.com Sun Jul 20 00:56:43 2008 From: drtwist at aracnet.com (Mr.T) Date: Sun Jul 20 00:56:57 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Re: [dorkbotpdx-announce] Urgent help needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I would propose that option 1 (assembly party) is the better option. and with OSCON this week, saturday morning is probably the best option. I would be willing to pitch in on what ever day this week we decide to do it on. If we decide that some of us collect the parts and assemble the boards during the early part of the week and return them to don i would be willing to pitch in in that capacity too -eric _____________________________ Drtwist: drtwist@aracnet.com On Sat, 19 Jul 2008, Thomas Lockney wrote: > So, as most of you are aware, Don has been putting on an excellent > series of workshops around the Arduino platform most recently > incorporating an Arduino-clone of his own design (the Dorkboard) and a > programmer known as the Benito. The next workshop is scheduled for > next Sunday, the 27th. > > Unfortunately, I just found out today that Don was in a motorcycle > accident. He has a broken clavicle and can't really use his left hand. > The extra difficulty is that the Benito programmers needed for next > weekends workshop still need to be assembled. Don has already placed > the processors on each of the boards, but they still need the > remaining components soldered. > > Don is doing ok and apparently still feels good about being able to > run the workshops next week, but we need to try and get these > programmers ready in time. I proposed two possibilities that came to > mind when I spoke to him earlier, considering, of course, that OSCON > is taking place this week and many of us will be quite busy with > activities related to that. > > Option 1 is that we try to get together a good sized handful of those > who feel they are capable of handling this soldering task (a few 805 > form SMT components need to be done along with the USB socket and > headers, I believe) for an assembly "party" of sorts. The only good > time I can see for doing this would probably be early in the day next > Saturday -- but that's based on my own personal schedule. If enough > people are available at some other time, that could work out. > > Option 2 would be to have similar skilled folks each grab a handful of > boards and assemble them on their own and bring them back to Don > sometime later in the week.The problem here is that Don can't really > debug them until he gets them back -- which is a problem if there are > issues with the boards. > > So, I'm leaning towards option 1, myself. But we have some logistical > issues... we need a good place. Someplace with good light, table space > and ventilation. Oh, and of course it has to be available at a time > when enough of us are able to help out... > > So, what can you do? If you have the skills to do SMT soldering and > feel comfortable helping out, let me know what your availability is > this week. If you have a good space or know of one that would be > readily available (with little work involved in getting it set up, > preferrably), please let me know ASAP. > > Any other reasonable suggestions are welcome. If you have some other > means of helping that I haven't thought of, please let me know. > > ~thomas > > 971-322-9408 (feel free to call -- I'll call back when I can) > ........................................................................ > .........dorkbot: people doing strange things with electricity.......... > ......................... http://dorkbot.org ........................... > ........................................................................ > From paul at pjrc.com Sun Jul 20 02:17:18 2008 From: paul at pjrc.com (Paul Stoffregen) Date: Sun Jul 20 02:16:55 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Urgent help needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4882D86E.6040201@pjrc.com> I can help. I have a microscope, IR pre-heater, Weller WD1M and other nice gear. I can also program the code and test, and troubleshoot if necessary, as I am very familiar with that chip and the application! Bring ALL the boards and parts to the meeting Monday (or I can stop by Don's place on the way). If it's 20-some boards, I can probably do that all in an evening, and bring them to OSCON on Thursday around 5pm. Whatever I can't get done could be done the following Saturday. But unless it's 50+ boards, I'll probably get them all soldered pretty quickly. -Paul Thomas Lockney wrote: > So, as most of you are aware, Don has been putting on an excellent > series of workshops around the Arduino platform most recently > incorporating an Arduino-clone of his own design (the Dorkboard) and a > programmer known as the Benito. The next workshop is scheduled for > next Sunday, the 27th. > > Unfortunately, I just found out today that Don was in a motorcycle > accident. He has a broken clavicle and can't really use his left hand. > The extra difficulty is that the Benito programmers needed for next > weekends workshop still need to be assembled. Don has already placed > the processors on each of the boards, but they still need the > remaining components soldered. > > Don is doing ok and apparently still feels good about being able to > run the workshops next week, but we need to try and get these > programmers ready in time. I proposed two possibilities that came to > mind when I spoke to him earlier, considering, of course, that OSCON > is taking place this week and many of us will be quite busy with > activities related to that. > > Option 1 is that we try to get together a good sized handful of those > who feel they are capable of handling this soldering task (a few 805 > form SMT components need to be done along with the USB socket and > headers, I believe) for an assembly "party" of sorts. The only good > time I can see for doing this would probably be early in the day next > Saturday -- but that's based on my own personal schedule. If enough > people are available at some other time, that could work out. > > Option 2 would be to have similar skilled folks each grab a handful of > boards and assemble them on their own and bring them back to Don > sometime later in the week.The problem here is that Don can't really > debug them until he gets them back -- which is a problem if there are > issues with the boards. > > So, I'm leaning towards option 1, myself. But we have some logistical > issues... we need a good place. Someplace with good light, table space > and ventilation. Oh, and of course it has to be available at a time > when enough of us are able to help out... > > So, what can you do? If you have the skills to do SMT soldering and > feel comfortable helping out, let me know what your availability is > this week. If you have a good space or know of one that would be > readily available (with little work involved in getting it set up, > preferrably), please let me know ASAP. > > Any other reasonable suggestions are welcome. If you have some other > means of helping that I haven't thought of, please let me know. > > ~thomas > > 971-322-9408 (feel free to call -- I'll call back when I can) > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > > > From tlockney at gmail.com Sun Jul 20 02:23:01 2008 From: tlockney at gmail.com (Thomas Lockney) Date: Sun Jul 20 02:23:09 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Urgent help needed In-Reply-To: <4882D86E.6040201@pjrc.com> References: <4882D86E.6040201@pjrc.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Paul Stoffregen wrote: > Bring ALL the boards and parts to the meeting Monday (or I can stop by Don's > place on the way). If it's 20-some boards, I can probably do that all in an > evening, and bring them to OSCON on Thursday around 5pm. Whatever I can't > get done could be done the following Saturday. But unless it's 50+ boards, > I'll probably get them all soldered pretty quickly. There are only 25 boards. Paul, you are a true hero. Let me know what I can do to help make sure everything works out. If you need me to either get in touch with Don or need his number or whatever, call me (971-322-9408). I'll work on finding some place for some of us to get together on Saturday as a backup plan in case there are any problems that need to be fixed. ~thomas From ddelmardavis at gmail.com Sun Jul 20 13:51:38 2008 From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Delmar Davis) Date: Sun Jul 20 13:51:33 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Urgent help needed In-Reply-To: References: <4882D86E.6040201@pjrc.com> Message-ID: <41621E86-266B-45ED-91A3-14A73149A439@gmail.com> Thanks to you both. I have 25 boards with the processors soldered on them so what's left is pretty big in comparison (806). If you can put together the space for Saturday the people who purchased the 14 non workshop boards and anyone else who is interested can put theirs together. D On Jul 19, 2008, at 11:23 PM, Thomas Lockney wrote: > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Paul Stoffregen > wrote: >> Bring ALL the boards and parts to the meeting Monday (or I can stop >> by Don's >> place on the way). If it's 20-some boards, I can probably do that >> all in an >> evening, and bring them to OSCON on Thursday around 5pm. Whatever >> I can't >> get done could be done the following Saturday. But unless it's 50+ >> boards, >> I'll probably get them all soldered pretty quickly. > > There are only 25 boards. > > Paul, you are a true hero. Let me know what I can do to help make sure > everything works out. If you need me to either get in touch with Don > or need his number or whatever, call me (971-322-9408). I'll work on > finding some place for some of us to get together on Saturday as a > backup plan in case there are any problems that need to be fixed. > > ~thomas > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080720/02cbd48f/attachment-0001.html From tlockney at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 12:14:02 2008 From: tlockney at gmail.com (Thomas Lockney) Date: Mon Jul 21 12:14:13 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Meeting Tonight, 7/21, 7PM at Lucky Lab NW Message-ID: Just a quick reminder that we ARE meeting tonight at the Lucky Lab NW (19th and NW Quimby) as usual. ---- Who: You What: Come join us for an evening of socializing, talking about odd hacks and poking around with other people toys. Bring things for show and tell if you like, or just bring a willingness to share your interests. We'll be the kids with all the coolest stuff on the table. Hope to see you there. Where: NW Lucky Lab, 1945 NW Quimby (19th and NW Quimby) When: Monday 7/21, 7PM Why: Because this is the most fun you will have all week! ---- From curator at ongallery.org Mon Jul 21 13:36:39 2008 From: curator at ongallery.org (Benjamin Foote) Date: Mon Jul 21 13:36:48 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Meeting Tonight, 7/21, 7PM at Lucky Lab NW In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10e900420807211036m34af3669qa5384382828b1a79@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, I won't be able to make it to Quimby tonight but I wanted to ask folks to spread the word about the ON Gallery / Makerlab with Dorkbot booth at OSCON. Also I'm looking for a few more folks to hang out for a couple hours at the booth here and there on Wednesday and Thursday. If this interests you please let me know. Cheers, ben On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Thomas Lockney wrote: > Just a quick reminder that we ARE meeting tonight at the Lucky Lab NW > (19th and NW Quimby) as usual. > > ---- > Who: You > What: Come join us for an evening of socializing, talking about odd > hacks and poking around with other people toys. Bring things for show > and tell if you like, or just bring a willingness to share your > interests. We'll be the kids with all the coolest stuff on the table. > Hope to see you there. > Where: NW Lucky Lab, 1945 NW Quimby (19th and NW Quimby) > When: Monday 7/21, 7PM > Why: Because this is the most fun you will have all week! > ---- > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > -- Benjamin Foote http://pdxstump.com - a search engine and news aggregator for Portland http://ONgallery.org - an art gallery for interactive media http://bnf.net - Linux and Java Consulting ben@bnf.net 971-925-1254 Call For Artists - ON Gallery is looking for interactive and multimedia art for First Thursdays in Downtown Portland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080721/f3d033e6/attachment.html From etmarchand at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 16:32:02 2008 From: etmarchand at gmail.com (Steve) Date: Mon Jul 21 16:32:22 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Meeting Tonight, 7/21, 7PM at Lucky Lab NW In-Reply-To: <10e900420807211036m34af3669qa5384382828b1a79@mail.gmail.com> References: <10e900420807211036m34af3669qa5384382828b1a79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4884F242.7000002@gmail.com> Benjamin Foote wrote: > Hi All, > > I won't be able to make it to Quimby tonight but I wanted to ask folks > to spread the word about the ON Gallery / Makerlab with Dorkbot booth > at OSCON. > > Also I'm looking for a few more folks to hang out for a couple hours > at the booth here and there on Wednesday and Thursday. If this > interests you please let me know. > > Cheers, > > ben > > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Thomas Lockney > wrote: > > Just a quick reminder that we ARE meeting tonight at the Lucky Lab NW > (19th and NW Quimby) as usual. > > ---- > Who: You > What: Come join us for an evening of socializing, talking about odd > hacks and poking around with other people toys. Bring things for show > and tell if you like, or just bring a willingness to share your > interests. We'll be the kids with all the coolest stuff on the table. > Hope to see you there. > Where: NW Lucky Lab, 1945 NW Quimby (19th and NW Quimby) > When: Monday 7/21, 7PM > Why: Because this is the most fun you will have all week! > ---- > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > > > > > -- > Benjamin Foote > http://pdxstump.com - a search engine and news aggregator for Portland > http://ONgallery.org - an art gallery for interactive media > http://bnf.net - Linux and Java Consulting > ben@bnf.net > 971-925-1254 > > Call For Artists - ON Gallery is looking for interactive and > multimedia art for First Thursdays in Downtown Portland > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber I will be there (OSCON) all day both Wednesday and Thursday and would be willing to sit in for a few now and then when needed. Steve From johnl at johnlabovitz.com Mon Jul 21 19:35:50 2008 From: johnl at johnlabovitz.com (John Labovitz) Date: Mon Jul 21 19:36:01 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Lend a solar panel for a good cause? Message-ID: My friend Jim works at Inveneo (inveneo.com), a technology nonprofit who builds Linux-based hardware & software and works with NGOs to install the systems in places in the developing world. Inveneo's coming to OSCON, but as Jim says: > This software is designed for application in rural areas of the > developing world where power is supplied by the sun. We were unable > to carry a panel with us to Portland, as we had too much other gear > and the airline was unhappy. They're looking to borrow a 12V solar panel -- "like a 75-watt unit, about one foot by two feet" -- for the three days of OSCON, so they can demo their system. Inveneo's a cool little company; the fact that they're a nonprofit tech company is pretty unique. Anyone on the list interested in helping them out? Let me know, and I'll put you in touch. --John From drtwist at aracnet.com Thu Jul 24 12:41:09 2008 From: drtwist at aracnet.com (Mr.T) Date: Thu Jul 24 12:41:27 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] Monday July 28 is group order day Message-ID: Monday july 28 at 5 pm is the deadline for the next group order day. parts will be distributed at the Aug 4 meeting (i actually looked at the dates this time) as usual the pertinant details can be found at: http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/dorkbotpdx_group_ordering remember to get your parts order in early. have fun -eric _____________________________ Drtwist: drtwist@aracnet.com From ddelmardavis at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 19:21:55 2008 From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Delmar Davis) Date: Thu Jul 24 19:22:07 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] Monday July 28 is group order day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41F27B90-701C-4132-B3A7-1E8D4506544A@gmail.com> Digikey. 1 30 P8090SCT-ND SWITCH LIGHT TOUCH 160GF SMD 0 0.34700 $10.41 2 1 XB24-ACI-001-ND MODULE ZIGBEE 1MW W/CHIP ANT 0 23.20000 $23.20 3 10 745C101153JPCT-ND RES ARRAY 15K OHM 10TRM BUSS SMD 0 0.21000 $2.10 4 2 AT43301-SU-ND IC USB HUB CTRLR 4PORT 24SOIC 0 1.83000 $3.66 5 200 RHM22ACT-ND RES 22 OHM 1/8W 5% 0805 SMD 0 0.02340 $4.68 On Jul 24, 2008, at 9:41 AM, Mr.T wrote: > Monday july 28 at 5 pm is the deadline for the next group order day. > > parts will be distributed at the Aug 4 meeting (i actually looked at > the > dates this time) > > as usual the pertinant details can be found at: > > http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/dorkbotpdx_group_ordering > > remember to get your parts order in early. > > have fun > > -eric > > _____________________________ > Drtwist: > drtwist@aracnet.com > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080724/5d5fc40a/attachment.html From mtw at vne.net Fri Jul 25 02:06:23 2008 From: mtw at vne.net (Matthew White) Date: Fri Jul 25 02:06:40 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] local supplier for rack mount chassis Message-ID: <20080725060622.GN7015@citron.vne.net> Hello all, Does anyone know of a local source for rack mount chassis like these? http://www.par-metal.com/10series.htm Thanks! -mtw -- From paul at pjrc.com Fri Jul 25 04:30:35 2008 From: paul at pjrc.com (Paul Stoffregen) Date: Fri Jul 25 04:30:26 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] local supplier for rack mount chassis In-Reply-To: <20080725060622.GN7015@citron.vne.net> References: <20080725060622.GN7015@citron.vne.net> Message-ID: <48898F2B.8090207@pjrc.com> I have a couple 1U ones I bought for a project that never materialized. If you only need one (or 2), and 1U size, I'd be happy to let you have them for about what I paid, maybe less, or maybe a couple beers or something. -Paul Matthew White wrote: > Hello all, > > Does anyone know of a local source for rack mount chassis like these? > > http://www.par-metal.com/10series.htm > > Thanks! > > -mtw > > > From dementedchihuahua at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 08:36:59 2008 From: dementedchihuahua at gmail.com (Dem Chi) Date: Fri Jul 25 08:37:12 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] local supplier for rack mount chassis In-Reply-To: <20080725060622.GN7015@citron.vne.net> References: <20080725060622.GN7015@citron.vne.net> Message-ID: <6dbff3170807250536kcdd3bbq328c340fb0979375@mail.gmail.com> Doesn't Norvac's have stuff like that? I believe--and I've been way wrong before--I've seen something like that when I was there a couple of times. Demented On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Matthew White wrote: > Hello all, > > Does anyone know of a local source for rack mount chassis like these? > > http://www.par-metal.com/10series.htm > > Thanks! > > -mtw > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > -- "...the individual condition of each of us is tragic. Each of us is alone: sometimes we escape from solitariness, through love or affection or perhaps creative moments, but those triumphs of life are pools of light we make for ourselves while the edge of the road is black: each of us dies alone." C.P. Snow The Two Cultures -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080725/0e04c4ac/attachment.html From drtwist at aracnet.com Fri Jul 25 11:58:39 2008 From: drtwist at aracnet.com (Mr.T) Date: Fri Jul 25 11:58:51 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] local supplier for rack mount chassis In-Reply-To: <6dbff3170807250536kcdd3bbq328c340fb0979375@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: norvac does indeed have those, but i'd call first. they don't reliably stock _anything_. -eric _____________________________ Drtwist: drtwist@aracnet.com On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Dem Chi wrote: > Doesn't Norvac's have stuff like that? I believe--and I've been way wrong > before--I've seen something like that when I was there a couple of times. > > Demented > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Matthew White wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > Does anyone know of a local source for rack mount chassis like these? > > > > http://www.par-metal.com/10series.htm > > > > Thanks! > > > > -mtw > > > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > > > > > > -- > "...the individual condition of each of us is tragic. Each of us is alone: > sometimes we escape from solitariness, through love or affection or perhaps > creative moments, but those triumphs of life are pools of light we make for > ourselves while the edge of the road is black: each of us dies alone." > C.P. Snow > The Two Cultures > From gunterhausfrau at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 12:59:54 2008 From: gunterhausfrau at gmail.com (dan p) Date: Fri Jul 25 13:00:06 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] local supplier for rack mount chassis In-Reply-To: References: <6dbff3170807250536kcdd3bbq328c340fb0979375@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8e6971a90807250959l59c088b9wc9b7ba0d5cb8ec25@mail.gmail.com> I have a old rack mounted computer, computer is dead, but the case is fine. (came out of an electron microscope) Do you need more than one? It is not exactly the same, there are doors on the front. But the form factor is the same as the bigger one. Likely heavier duty than shown. If interested maybe we can make a trade? My wife would be happy if it went away to tell the truth. On 7/25/08, Mr.T wrote: > > norvac does indeed have those, but i'd call first. they don't reliably > stock _anything_. > > -eric > _____________________________ > Drtwist: > drtwist@aracnet.com > > On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Dem Chi wrote: > > > Doesn't Norvac's have stuff like that? I believe--and I've been way wrong > > before--I've seen something like that when I was there a couple of times. > > > > Demented > > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Matthew White wrote: > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > Does anyone know of a local source for rack mount chassis like these? > > > > > > http://www.par-metal.com/10series.htm > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > -mtw > > > > > > > > > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > > > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > > > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > "...the individual condition of each of us is tragic. Each of us is > alone: > > sometimes we escape from solitariness, through love or affection or > perhaps > > creative moments, but those triumphs of life are pools of light we make > for > > ourselves while the edge of the road is black: each of us dies alone." > > C.P. Snow > > The Two Cultures > > > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080725/60fa5373/attachment.html From mtw at vne.net Fri Jul 25 13:13:16 2008 From: mtw at vne.net (Matthew White) Date: Fri Jul 25 13:13:27 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] local supplier for rack mount chassis In-Reply-To: <8e6971a90807250959l59c088b9wc9b7ba0d5cb8ec25@mail.gmail.com> References: <6dbff3170807250536kcdd3bbq328c340fb0979375@mail.gmail.com> <8e6971a90807250959l59c088b9wc9b7ba0d5cb8ec25@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080725171316.GQ7015@citron.vne.net> Dan, Thanks for the offer. I need the case to house two micrphone pre-amps that I've assembled (that includes 2 PCBs and 4 transformers) , so I need a front panel that is blank and an inside that is free of partitions. -mtw On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 09:59:54AM -0700, dan p (gunterhausfrau@gmail.com) wrote: > I have a old rack mounted computer, computer is dead, but the case is fine. > (came out of an electron microscope) Do you need more than one? It is not > exactly the same, there are doors on the front. But the form factor is the > same as the bigger one. Likely heavier duty than shown. > > If interested maybe we can make a trade? My wife would be happy if it went > away to tell the truth. > > > On 7/25/08, Mr.T wrote: > > > > norvac does indeed have those, but i'd call first. they don't reliably > > stock _anything_. > > > > -eric > > _____________________________ > > Drtwist: > > drtwist@aracnet.com > > > > On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Dem Chi wrote: > > > > > Doesn't Norvac's have stuff like that? I believe--and I've been way wrong > > > before--I've seen something like that when I was there a couple of times. > > > > > > Demented > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Matthew White wrote: > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of a local source for rack mount chassis like these? > > > > > > > > http://www.par-metal.com/10series.htm > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > -mtw > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > > > > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > > > > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > "...the individual condition of each of us is tragic. Each of us is > > alone: > > > sometimes we escape from solitariness, through love or affection or > > perhaps > > > creative moments, but those triumphs of life are pools of light we make > > for > > > ourselves while the edge of the road is black: each of us dies alone." > > > C.P. Snow > > > The Two Cultures > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber -- From tlockney at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 01:14:00 2008 From: tlockney at gmail.com (Thomas Lockney) Date: Sat Jul 26 01:14:25 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Fwd:new Master program of possible interest to dorkbot types In-Reply-To: <488946C5.4070402@allartburns.org> References: <488946C5.4070402@allartburns.org> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: jet Date: Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:21 PM Subject:new Master program of possible interest to dorkbot types Carnegie Mellon University is launching a new, one-year Masters of Tangible Interaction Design: The Master of Tangible Interaction Design program is a one-year program at Carnegie Mellon University centered around new computational technologies in making. The program serves two distinct groups: those with significant engineering and/or computer science knowledge who wish to master design or artistic skills, and those with significant design, art, or architecture experience who wish to master technological means of making. The scope of study in the mTID program is broad, including digital fabrication, analog and digital electronics, media and materials, and computer programming. The program is designed for a cohort of approximately ten students who will attend design and technology courses and a studio where they apply what they have learned. In addition, there is a reading colloquium where students read and discuss the literature of this emerging field. Full details, including how to apply, at: -- --jet@allartburns.org From tlockney at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 13:45:30 2008 From: tlockney at gmail.com (Thomas Lockney) Date: Mon Jul 28 13:45:41 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Fwd: [nfo] Call for projects - make art 2008 - EXTENDED DEADLINE In-Reply-To: <20080725135151.GH10137@hee.jungle> References: <20080725135151.GH10137@hee.jungle> Message-ID: Might be of interest to some of you... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: goto10 info/newsletter Date: 2008/7/25 Subject: [nfo] Call for projects - make art 2008 - EXTENDED DEADLINE To: nfo@goto10.org Hey! sorry for >< please >> phew... summer is hot... EXTENDED DEADLINE! :) 8th of August -- (french version below) -- _ _ _ ____ _ _ _______|_| | |_ _| | _|____|_ | | _|_| | _____| | _|__|_ | | |____| | | |___|_| | |_____ | | |__| | | | ____ | | ___|_ | _____| | | | | | |_ | | | | |_|_ | |_______ |_|_ |_| |___| |_| |_| |_| |_________| |_|_ ____ _______ _________ |_| _|____|_ | _____|_ |___ ___|_ _ | |____| | | |_____|_| | | |_| |_| from 24th | __ | | _ _| | | to 30th of | | |_ | | | |_|___ _|_| NOVEMBER 08 |_| |_| |_| |___| |_| MAKE ART 2008 - OpenOS CALL FOR PROJECTS Make Art is an international festival dedicated to the integration of Free/Libre Open Source Software (FLOSS) in digital art. The third edition of make art - OpenOS - will take place in Poitiers (FR), from the 24th to the 30th of November 2008. make art offers performances, presentations, workshops and an exhibition, focused on the blurred line between art and software programming. We're currently seeking new, innovative FLOSS based works and projects: music and audiovisual performances, presentations, software demos, and installations. This year make art focuses on the *OpenOS*: artistic, free, creative use of the Operating System, hackability and modularity of FLOSS and GNU/Linux, scripts as digital glue between applications, enhanced possibilities for the technical expression of ideas, user empowerment and artistic freedom. For more details, please visit http://makeart.goto10.org/call -- _ _ _ ____ _ _ _______|_| | |_ _| | _|____|_ | | _|_| | _____| | _|__|_ | | |____| | | |___|_| | |_____ | | |__| | | | ____ | | ___|_ | _____| | | | | | |_ | | | | |_|_ | |_______ |_|_ |_| |___| |_| |_| |_| |_________| |_|_ ____ _______ _________ |_| _|____|_ | _____|_ |___ ___|_ _ | |____| | | |_____|_| | | |_| |_| | __ | | _ _| | | du 24 au 30 | | |_ | | | |_|___ _|_| NOVEMBRE 08 |_| |_| |_| |___| |_| MAKE ART 2008 - OpenOS APPEL A PROJET make art est un festival international d?di? ? l'int?gration des Logiciels Libres et Open Source (FLOSS[1]) dans l'art num?rique. La troisi?me ?dition de make art ? OpenOS - se d?roule ? Poitiers (FR), du 24 au 30 novembre 2008. make art propose des performances, des pr?sentations, des workshops et une exposition, centr?s sur la rencontre entre l'art num?rique et le logiciel libre. Nous recherchons actuellement des projets r?cents, innovants, bas?s sur des logiciels libres et open source : performances musicales et audio-visuelles, pr?sentations, d?monstrations de logiciels et installations. Cette ann?e make art portera une attention particuli?re ? l'OpenOS: l'utilisation artistique, libre, cr?ative du syst?me d'exploitation (OS[2]), la "hackabilit?" et la modularit? des Logiciels Libre et Open Source (FLOSS) et de GNU/Linux, les scripts comme glu num?rique pour interconnecter les applications, les possibilit?s accrues pour l'expression technique des id?es, l'autonomisation de l'utilisateur (empowerment) et la libert? artistique. [1] FLOSS: Free/Libre/Open Source Software [2] OS:Operating System Pour plus de d?tail, veuillez visiter l'adresse suivante : http://makeart.goto10.org/call/index.fr.html -- :* -- GOTO10 ONE WAY NFO L!ST - HTTP://GOTO10.ORG IRC.GOTO10.ORG #GOTO10 TO UNSUBSCRIBE SEND A MAIL TO NFO-UNSUBSCRIBE@GOTO10.ORG -- Thomas Lockney | tlockney@gmail.com | http://opposable-thumbs.net From jason at noisybox.net Mon Jul 28 18:49:30 2008 From: jason at noisybox.net (Jason Plumb) Date: Mon Jul 28 18:51:18 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] Monday July 28 is group order day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <488E4CFA.6040807@noisybox.net> item qty digikey number desc total: 1 32 67-1359-1-ND LED 660NM RED WTR CLR 1206 SMD $5.15 2 20 160-1404-1-ND LED GREEN CLEAR 1206 SMD $2.52 3 2 CKC5106-ND SWITCH SLIDE SPST 4A PCB $3.82 4 4 EG1903-ND SWITCH SLIDE SPDT 30V.2A PC MNT $2.72 5 50 RHM1.00KCCT-ND RES 1.00K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.34 6 50 RHM4.70KCRCT-ND RES 4.70K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.32 7 50 RHM100CRCT-ND RES 100 OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.32 8 6 WM4201-ND CONN HEADER 3POS .100 VERT TIN $1.98 9 20 311-1140-1-ND CAP .10UF 50V CERAMIC X7R 0805 $1.82 Thanks! -jason From ddelmardavis at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 19:31:46 2008 From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Delmar Davis) Date: Mon Jul 28 19:31:42 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] Monday July 28 is group order day In-Reply-To: <488E4CFA.6040807@noisybox.net> References: <488E4CFA.6040807@noisybox.net> Message-ID: Also if its not too late please add these. 6 2 620-1022-ND IC SENSOR HALL EFFECT 3-SIP 0 1.26000 $2.52 7 5 620-1041-1-ND IC SWITCH HALL EFFECT SOT23W 0 1.05000 $5.25 8 5 620-1043-ND IC SWITCH HALL EFFECT 3-SIP 0 1.25000 $6.25 9 5 OR524-ND OPTO SENSOR 8MM WIDE SLOT TYPE 0 1.93000 $9.65 On Jul 28, 2008, at 3:49 PM, Jason Plumb wrote: > item qty digikey number desc total: > 1 32 67-1359-1-ND LED 660NM RED WTR CLR 1206 SMD $5.15 > 2 20 160-1404-1-ND LED GREEN CLEAR 1206 SMD $2.52 > 3 2 CKC5106-ND SWITCH SLIDE SPST 4A PCB $3.82 > 4 4 EG1903-ND SWITCH SLIDE SPDT 30V.2A PC MNT $2.72 > 5 50 RHM1.00KCCT-ND RES 1.00K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.34 > 6 50 RHM4.70KCRCT-ND RES 4.70K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.32 > 7 50 RHM100CRCT-ND RES 100 OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.32 > 8 6 WM4201-ND CONN HEADER 3POS .100 VERT TIN $1.98 > 9 20 311-1140-1-ND CAP .10UF 50V CERAMIC X7R 0805 $1.82 > > Thanks! > > -jason > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080728/6b0822cb/attachment.html From paul at pjrc.com Tue Jul 29 06:19:54 2008 From: paul at pjrc.com (Paul Stoffregen) Date: Tue Jul 29 06:19:43 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] Monday July 28 is group order day In-Reply-To: <488E4CFA.6040807@noisybox.net> References: <488E4CFA.6040807@noisybox.net> Message-ID: <488EEECA.3030608@pjrc.com> I'm considering buying a reel of 4000 LEDs. Would anyone be interested in taking maybe 50 or 100 if they're only 3.6 cents? A lot of us are paying over 10 cents, sometimes over 15 cents per LED. Sure, if you need just a few of a special size or color/brightness, etc, that makes sense. But if you just want something that will blink, under 4 cents sounds pretty nice! This is the one I'm thinking about: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?PName?Name=475-2486-2-ND It's orange in 603 package. It's very bright at 20 mA. I got some a month ago and tested them yesterday at 2 mA and I'm happy to say they're still very visible at lower current. Jason, I have these parts on mostly-full reels which were very cheap. Some of my resistors are 1%, some are 5%. I'd be happy to bring them to the next meeting, saving you $5.80 on your next order. Let me know if you really need 50 of each resistor. I have many cut and nicely labeled in strips of 25 to 30 (which is the length than fits nicely in parts drawers), but if you really need 2 strips, that's fine. > 5 50 RHM1.00KCCT-ND RES 1.00K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.34 > 6 50 RHM4.70KCRCT-ND RES 4.70K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.32 > 7 50 RHM100CRCT-ND RES 100 OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.32 > 9 20 311-1140-1-ND CAP .10UF 50V CERAMIC X7R 0805 $1.82 From grinich at MIT.EDU Tue Jul 29 13:00:56 2008 From: grinich at MIT.EDU (Michael Grinich) Date: Tue Jul 29 13:01:08 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] Monday July 28 is group order day In-Reply-To: <488EEECA.3030608@pjrc.com> References: <488E4CFA.6040807@noisybox.net> <488EEECA.3030608@pjrc.com> Message-ID: <1753D1CB-3924-47F1-A065-B2360D7ADE8C@mit.edu> Throwies, anyone? /grinich On Jul 29, 2008, at 3:19 AM, Paul Stoffregen wrote: > I'm considering buying a reel of 4000 LEDs. Would anyone be > interested in taking maybe 50 or 100 if they're only 3.6 cents? > > A lot of us are paying over 10 cents, sometimes over 15 cents per > LED. Sure, if you need just a few of a special size or color/ > brightness, etc, that makes sense. But if you just want something > that will blink, under 4 cents sounds pretty nice! > > This is the one I'm thinking about: > > http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?PName? > Name=475-2486-2-ND > > It's orange in 603 package. It's very bright at 20 mA. I got some > a month ago and tested them yesterday at 2 mA and I'm happy to say > they're still very visible at lower current. > > > Jason, I have these parts on mostly-full reels which were very > cheap. Some of my resistors are 1%, some are 5%. I'd be happy to > bring them to the next meeting, saving you $5.80 on your next > order. Let me know if you really need 50 of each resistor. I have > many cut and nicely labeled in strips of 25 to 30 (which is the > length than fits nicely in parts drawers), but if you really need 2 > strips, that's fine. > >> 5 50 RHM1.00KCCT-ND RES 1.00K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.34 >> 6 50 RHM4.70KCRCT-ND RES 4.70K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.32 >> 7 50 RHM100CRCT-ND RES 100 OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.32 >> 9 20 311-1140-1-ND CAP .10UF 50V CERAMIC X7R 0805 $1.82 > > > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber From ddelmardavis at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 16:01:56 2008 From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Delmar Davis) Date: Tue Jul 29 16:01:53 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] Monday July 28 is group order day In-Reply-To: <488EEECA.3030608@pjrc.com> References: <488E4CFA.6040807@noisybox.net> <488EEECA.3030608@pjrc.com> Message-ID: <3607D817-BC30-44A5-BAD2-FBAE1FF778F1@gmail.com> Paul I would do a a quarter of one of those reals if are they are not too small to fit on the benitos. On Jul 29, 2008, at 3:19 AM, Paul Stoffregen wrote: > I'm considering buying a reel of 4000 LEDs. Would anyone be > interested in taking maybe 50 or 100 if they're only 3.6 cents? > > A lot of us are paying over 10 cents, sometimes over 15 cents per > LED. Sure, if you need just a few of a special size or color/ > brightness, etc, that makes sense. But if you just want something > that will blink, under 4 cents sounds pretty nice! > > This is the one I'm thinking about: > > http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?PName? > Name=475-2486-2-ND > > It's orange in 603 package. It's very bright at 20 mA. I got some > a month ago and tested them yesterday at 2 mA and I'm happy to say > they're still very visible at lower current. > > > Jason, I have these parts on mostly-full reels which were very > cheap. Some of my resistors are 1%, some are 5%. I'd be happy to > bring them to the next meeting, saving you $5.80 on your next > order. Let me know if you really need 50 of each resistor. I have > many cut and nicely labeled in strips of 25 to 30 (which is the > length than fits nicely in parts drawers), but if you really need 2 > strips, that's fine. > >> 5 50 RHM1.00KCCT-ND RES 1.00K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.34 >> 6 50 RHM4.70KCRCT-ND RES 4.70K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.32 >> 7 50 RHM100CRCT-ND RES 100 OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.32 >> 9 20 311-1140-1-ND CAP .10UF 50V CERAMIC X7R 0805 $1.82 > > > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080729/7d16e070/attachment.html From ddelmardavis at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 16:05:49 2008 From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Delmar Davis) Date: Tue Jul 29 16:05:46 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] Monday July 28 is group order day In-Reply-To: <488EEECA.3030608@pjrc.com> References: <488E4CFA.6040807@noisybox.net> <488EEECA.3030608@pjrc.com> Message-ID: On the other hand the 250 price is really not that much higher. On Jul 29, 2008, at 3:19 AM, Paul Stoffregen wrote: > I'm considering buying a reel of 4000 LEDs. Would anyone be > interested in taking maybe 50 or 100 if they're only 3.6 cents? > > A lot of us are paying over 10 cents, sometimes over 15 cents per > LED. Sure, if you need just a few of a special size or color/ > brightness, etc, that makes sense. But if you just want something > that will blink, under 4 cents sounds pretty nice! > > This is the one I'm thinking about: > > http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?PName? > Name=475-2486-2-ND > > It's orange in 603 package. It's very bright at 20 mA. I got some > a month ago and tested them yesterday at 2 mA and I'm happy to say > they're still very visible at lower current. > > > Jason, I have these parts on mostly-full reels which were very > cheap. Some of my resistors are 1%, some are 5%. I'd be happy to > bring them to the next meeting, saving you $5.80 on your next > order. Let me know if you really need 50 of each resistor. I have > many cut and nicely labeled in strips of 25 to 30 (which is the > length than fits nicely in parts drawers), but if you really need 2 > strips, that's fine. > >> 5 50 RHM1.00KCCT-ND RES 1.00K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.34 >> 6 50 RHM4.70KCRCT-ND RES 4.70K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.32 >> 7 50 RHM100CRCT-ND RES 100 OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.32 >> 9 20 311-1140-1-ND CAP .10UF 50V CERAMIC X7R 0805 $1.82 > > > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080729/b4f9f1c2/attachment-0001.html From ddelmardavis at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 16:43:29 2008 From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Delmar Davis) Date: Tue Jul 29 16:43:24 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] Monday July 28 is group order day In-Reply-To: <488EEECA.3030608@pjrc.com> References: <488E4CFA.6040807@noisybox.net> <488EEECA.3030608@pjrc.com> Message-ID: <26E35656-28A1-4590-BE28-784D49476A22@gmail.com> Actually revisiting that I am thinking that 4 cents is good enough and that it would take me a long time to use more than 250 even at that price. You can hold me to that last statement if you want but I will certainly do 250 when you order them. On Jul 29, 2008, at 3:19 AM, Paul Stoffregen wrote: > I'm considering buying a reel of 4000 LEDs. Would anyone be > interested in taking maybe 50 or 100 if they're only 3.6 cents? > > A lot of us are paying over 10 cents, sometimes over 15 cents per > LED. Sure, if you need just a few of a special size or color/ > brightness, etc, that makes sense. But if you just want something > that will blink, under 4 cents sounds pretty nice! > > This is the one I'm thinking about: > > http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?PName? > Name=475-2486-2-ND > > It's orange in 603 package. It's very bright at 20 mA. I got some > a month ago and tested them yesterday at 2 mA and I'm happy to say > they're still very visible at lower current. > > > Jason, I have these parts on mostly-full reels which were very > cheap. Some of my resistors are 1%, some are 5%. I'd be happy to > bring them to the next meeting, saving you $5.80 on your next > order. Let me know if you really need 50 of each resistor. I have > many cut and nicely labeled in strips of 25 to 30 (which is the > length than fits nicely in parts drawers), but if you really need 2 > strips, that's fine. > >> 5 50 RHM1.00KCCT-ND RES 1.00K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.34 >> 6 50 RHM4.70KCRCT-ND RES 4.70K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.32 >> 7 50 RHM100CRCT-ND RES 100 OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.32 >> 9 20 311-1140-1-ND CAP .10UF 50V CERAMIC X7R 0805 $1.82 > > > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080729/2b6b608a/attachment.html From paul at pjrc.com Tue Jul 29 17:34:14 2008 From: paul at pjrc.com (Paul Stoffregen) Date: Tue Jul 29 17:33:57 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Parts For Beer Message-ID: <488F8CD6.20506@pjrc.com> I'm going to start another parts order process called "Parts For Beer", to augment Eric's excellent group order. Here are the main features.... 0: Limited to Paul's personal parts inventory. I will soon publish a list. 1: Very low pricing! (approx Digikey's thousands quantity) 2: Small fixed quantities (4 inch strips, which is usually 25 pieces) 3: No shipping charge. 4: I label the parts for you. 5: Ordering all the way up to a few hours before the Dorkbot meeting! 6: Payment options: beer or cash. Beer is preferred. There is no minimum, though a "full beer" total (or coordinating with others to sum up to a beer) will be greatly appreciated! My list will mostly be generic parts like resistors, capacitors, inductors, diodes and small transistors, of course only in certain sizes and values. But it does cover a lot of the ordinary parts, so when you need a small number of 10K 0805 resistors, you can get a small strip for 25 cents rather than more than you need from Digikey for over a dollar, or only the exact quantity, also over a dollar due to their high prices at such low quantity. This is intended for small quantity only. If you need hundreds or thousands, please get them from Digikey. -Paul From fcanaan at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 18:35:09 2008 From: fcanaan at gmail.com (Frank Canaan) Date: Tue Jul 29 18:35:20 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] Monday July 28 is group order day In-Reply-To: <26E35656-28A1-4590-BE28-784D49476A22@gmail.com> References: <488E4CFA.6040807@noisybox.net> <488EEECA.3030608@pjrc.com> <26E35656-28A1-4590-BE28-784D49476A22@gmail.com> Message-ID: <75f7c3550807291535n41437ac7na1cdf2dce5e7290a@mail.gmail.com> Has anyone though of maybe using something like this: http://b2b-order-form.sourceforge.net/ on the dorkbot site for group ordering? On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Donald Delmar Davis wrote: > Actually revisiting that I am thinking that 4 cents is good enough and that > it would take me a long time to use more than 250 even at that price. You > can hold me to that last statement if you want but I will certainly do 250 > when you order them. > > On Jul 29, 2008, at 3:19 AM, Paul Stoffregen wrote: > > I'm considering buying a reel of 4000 LEDs. Would anyone be interested in > taking maybe 50 or 100 if they're only 3.6 cents? > > A lot of us are paying over 10 cents, sometimes over 15 cents per LED. > Sure, if you need just a few of a special size or color/brightness, etc, > that makes sense. But if you just want something that will blink, under 4 > cents sounds pretty nice! > > This is the one I'm thinking about: > > http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?PName > ?Name=475-2486-2-ND > > It's orange in 603 package. It's very bright at 20 mA. I got some a month > ago and tested them yesterday at 2 mA and I'm happy to say they're still > very visible at lower current. > > > Jason, I have these parts on mostly-full reels which were very cheap. Some > of my resistors are 1%, some are 5%. I'd be happy to bring them to the next > meeting, saving you $5.80 on your next order. Let me know if you really > need 50 of each resistor. I have many cut and nicely labeled in strips of > 25 to 30 (which is the length than fits nicely in parts drawers), but if you > really need 2 strips, that's fine. > > 5 50 RHM1.00KCCT-ND RES 1.00K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.34 > > 6 50 RHM4.70KCRCT-ND RES 4.70K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.32 > > 7 50 RHM100CRCT-ND RES 100 OHM 1/8W 1% 0805 SMD $1.32 > > 9 20 311-1140-1-ND CAP .10UF 50V CERAMIC X7R 0805 $1.82 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > > > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > -- -Frank Canaan fcanaan@gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080729/b40b3fb6/attachment.html From tlockney at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 18:40:15 2008 From: tlockney at gmail.com (Thomas Lockney) Date: Tue Jul 29 18:40:23 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] Monday July 28 is group order day In-Reply-To: <75f7c3550807291535n41437ac7na1cdf2dce5e7290a@mail.gmail.com> References: <488E4CFA.6040807@noisybox.net> <488EEECA.3030608@pjrc.com> <26E35656-28A1-4590-BE28-784D49476A22@gmail.com> <75f7c3550807291535n41437ac7na1cdf2dce5e7290a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Frank Canaan wrote: > Has anyone though of maybe using something like this: > http://b2b-order-form.sourceforge.net/ on the dorkbot site for group > ordering? If someone wants to develop some simple PHP or, even better, create a Google spreadsheet for it, I'm game. But I really, really don't want to have to maintain and install another piece of software on the site. From drtwist at aracnet.com Tue Jul 29 18:49:05 2008 From: drtwist at aracnet.com (Mr.T) Date: Tue Jul 29 18:49:13 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] Monday July 28 is group order day In-Reply-To: Message-ID: james made a snappy google spreadsheet front end for the group order process. i'm still up in the air with what to do with it. there is still a bit of manual sanity checking that goes in to the order process. at this point doing it the manual way is still way easier than setting up and maintaining something else. As i've been going through the process ans streamlining how all the behind the scenes stuff works i keep finding little gotchas that make me thing that for somthing this small it's best to to it manually. that said, i'm still on the lookout for somthing to make my life easier. -eric _____________________________ Drtwist: drtwist@aracnet.com On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Thomas Lockney wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Frank Canaan wrote: > > Has anyone though of maybe using something like this: > > http://b2b-order-form.sourceforge.net/ on the dorkbot site for group > > ordering? > > If someone wants to develop some simple PHP or, even better, create a > Google spreadsheet for it, I'm game. But I really, really don't want > to have to maintain and install another piece of software on the site. > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > From fcanaan at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 18:49:39 2008 From: fcanaan at gmail.com (Frank Canaan) Date: Tue Jul 29 18:49:49 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] Monday July 28 is group order day In-Reply-To: References: <488E4CFA.6040807@noisybox.net> <488EEECA.3030608@pjrc.com> <26E35656-28A1-4590-BE28-784D49476A22@gmail.com> <75f7c3550807291535n41437ac7na1cdf2dce5e7290a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <75f7c3550807291549v769ee6b3l5ff2b546a7308deb@mail.gmail.com> I totally, totally, understand. A google spreadsheet is probably a much better idea. On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Thomas Lockney wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Frank Canaan wrote: > > Has anyone though of maybe using something like this: > > http://b2b-order-form.sourceforge.net/ on the dorkbot site for group > > ordering? > > If someone wants to develop some simple PHP or, even better, create a > Google spreadsheet for it, I'm game. But I really, really don't want > to have to maintain and install another piece of software on the site. > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > -- -Frank Canaan fcanaan@gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080729/bed5c0dc/attachment-0001.html From dalasv at yahoo.com Tue Jul 29 19:32:16 2008 From: dalasv at yahoo.com (dalas v.) Date: Tue Jul 29 19:32:24 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Parts For Beer In-Reply-To: <488F8CD6.20506@pjrc.com> Message-ID: <585784.80911.qm@web31501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hm, if you have some banana plugs and jacks along with wire to make the banana cords and a few 1k resistors, I might be buying you a round. I'm not really clear on how to find and order the parts I'm looking for yet, so I'll be at Monday's meeting looking for someone to step me through the process. -dalas --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Paul Stoffregen wrote: > From: Paul Stoffregen > Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Parts For Beer > To: "A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)" > Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 2:34 PM > I'm going to start another parts order process called > "Parts For Beer", > to augment Eric's excellent group order. Here are the > main features.... > > 0: Limited to Paul's personal parts inventory. I will > soon publish a list. > 1: Very low pricing! (approx Digikey's thousands > quantity) > 2: Small fixed quantities (4 inch strips, which is usually > 25 pieces) > 3: No shipping charge. > 4: I label the parts for you. > 5: Ordering all the way up to a few hours before the > Dorkbot meeting! > 6: Payment options: beer or cash. Beer is preferred. > > There is no minimum, though a "full beer" total > (or coordinating with > others to sum up to a beer) will be greatly appreciated! > > My list will mostly be generic parts like resistors, > capacitors, > inductors, diodes and small transistors, of course only in > certain sizes > and values. But it does cover a lot of the ordinary parts, > so when you > need a small number of 10K 0805 resistors, you can get a > small strip for > 25 cents rather than more than you need from Digikey for > over a dollar, > or only the exact quantity, also over a dollar due to their > high prices > at such low quantity. > > This is intended for small quantity only. If you need > hundreds or > thousands, please get them from Digikey. > > > -Paul > > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber From dalasv at yahoo.com Tue Jul 29 19:33:23 2008 From: dalasv at yahoo.com (dalas v.) Date: Tue Jul 29 19:33:31 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] Monday July 28 is group order day In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <660830.50926.qm@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Google spreadsheets also allow for simple forms as a method of data entry. That might be a good way to go. -dalas --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Thomas Lockney wrote: > From: Thomas Lockney > Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] Monday July 28 is group order day > To: "A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)" > Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 3:40 PM > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Frank Canaan > wrote: > > Has anyone though of maybe using something like this: > > http://b2b-order-form.sourceforge.net/ on the dorkbot > site for group > > ordering? > > If someone wants to develop some simple PHP or, even > better, create a > Google spreadsheet for it, I'm game. But I really, > really don't want > to have to maintain and install another piece of software > on the site. > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber From james.neal at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 19:43:05 2008 From: james.neal at gmail.com (Laen) Date: Tue Jul 29 19:43:14 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Re: [GroupOrder] Monday July 28 is group order day In-Reply-To: <660830.50926.qm@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <660830.50926.qm@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2d622ff4-9cb2-4f3a-896d-5c65c7e3eb47@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> Yeah, I think it's kind of fun: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=ph-vh1IGPxLl3yLbhOdIUQQ&hl=en !!! Note that this isn't "live" and nothing you put in it right now will get ordered. !!! :) I wish Octopart would hurry up and get their Group Parts List feature working... -Laen On Jul 29, 4:33 pm, "dalas v." wrote: > Google spreadsheets also allow for simple forms as a method of data entry. That might be a good way to go. > > -dalas > > --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Thomas Lockney wrote: > > > > > From: Thomas Lockney > > Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] Monday July 28 is group order day > > To: "A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)" > > Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 3:40 PM > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Frank Canaan > > wrote: > > > Has anyone though of maybe using something like this: > > >http://b2b-order-form.sourceforge.net/on the dorkbot > > site for group > > > ordering? > > > If someone wants to develop some simple PHP or, even > > better, create a > > Google spreadsheet for it, I'm game. But I really, > > really don't want > > to have to maintain and install another piece of software > > on the site. > > _______________________________________________ > > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > > dorkbotpdx-blab...@dorkbot.org > >http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blab...@dorkbot.orghttp://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber From paul at pjrc.com Tue Jul 29 19:46:24 2008 From: paul at pjrc.com (Paul Stoffregen) Date: Tue Jul 29 19:46:05 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [PartsForBeer] The List... Message-ID: <488FABD0.90504@pjrc.com> Here's the "Parts For Beer" list. Resistor, 4.7, 5%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Resistor, 56, 5%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Resistor, 90.9, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Resistor, 100, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Resistor, 221, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Resistor, 365, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Resistor, 470, 5%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Resistor, 665, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Resistor, 6.8K, 5%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Resistor, 1.00K, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Resistor, 1.21K, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Resistor, 2.21K, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Resistor, 4.70K, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Resistor, 9.09K, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Resistor, 10.0K, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Resistor, 22K, 5%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Resistor, 33.0K, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Resistor, 47K, 5%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Resistor, 90.9K, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Resistor, 133K, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Resistor, 220K, 5%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Resistor, 1M, 5%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Capacitor, 3pF, Ceramic NPO/C0G, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Capacitor, 18pF, Ceramic NPO/C0G, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Capacitor, 22pF, Ceramic NPO/C0G, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Capacitor, 33pF, Ceramic NPO/C0G, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Capacitor, 470pF, Ceramic NPO/C0G, 0805, Qty=25 0.50 Capacitor, 1500pF, Ceramic NPO/C0G, 0805, Qty=25 1.00 Capacitor, 4700pF, Ceramic X7R, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 Capacitor, 0.1uF, 50V, Ceramic X7R, 0805, Qty=25 0.50 Capacitor, 1uF, 16V, Ceramic X7R, 0805, Qty=25 1.25 Capacitor, 4.7uF, 25V, Ceramic X5R, 0805, PCC2321CT-ND, Qty=25 3.50 Capacitor, 47uF, 35V, Alum Low-ESR, SMT, EEEFK1V470P, Qty=6 1.00 Capacitor, 100uF, 6.3V, Tantalum, SMD, Qty=12 2.50 Transistor, NPN, 3904, 40V, 200mA, PMBT3904, Qty=25 0.50 Transistor, PNP, 3906, 40V, 200mA, MMBT3906, Qty=25 0.50 Mosfet, N-ch, FDV303N, 0.6 ohm, 25V, 50pF, SOT-23, Qty=25 2.50 Mosfet, P-ch, FDV304P, 1.1 ohm, 25V, 63pF, SOT-23, Qty=25 3.75 Diode, S2G, 1.5A, 400V, std rectifier, SMB, Qty=12 1.00 Diode, Zener, 12V, SOT-23, Qty=25 0.75 Diode, B120, Schottky, 1A, 20V, SMA, Qty=25 3.25 Diode, B130, Schottky, 1A, 30V, SMA, Qty=25 3.25 Diode, 4148, 100 mA, 75V, 4ns, 1206 (round glass), Qty=25 0.50 Inductor, F-Bead, 600ohm@100MHz, 1.5A, MI0805K601R-10, Qty=25 1.50 Inductor, 4.7uH, 1.7A, shielded, 445-1184-1-ND, Qty=8 3.50 Inductor, 22uH, 0.9A, shielded, 445-1188-1-ND, Qty=8 3.50 Inductor, 47uH, 10%, 80mA, PCD1028TR-ND, Qty=25 3.00 From DdelmarDavis at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 19:48:42 2008 From: DdelmarDavis at gmail.com (Donald Delmar Davis) Date: Tue Jul 29 19:48:41 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Re: [GroupOrder] Monday July 28 is group order day In-Reply-To: <2d622ff4-9cb2-4f3a-896d-5c65c7e3eb47@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> References: <660830.50926.qm@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2d622ff4-9cb2-4f3a-896d-5c65c7e3eb47@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: ok so I just spent 5 hours putting together a parts list that I cut and past into an email and send it. Is there a bulk add? On Jul 29, 2008, at 4:43 PM, Laen wrote: > Yeah, I think it's kind of fun: > > http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=ph-vh1IGPxLl3yLbhOdIUQQ&hl=en > !!! Note that this isn't "live" and nothing you put in it right now > will get ordered. !!! :) > > I wish Octopart would hurry up and get their Group Parts List feature > working... > > -Laen > > On Jul 29, 4:33 pm, "dalas v." wrote: >> Google spreadsheets also allow for simple forms as a method of data >> entry. That might be a good way to go. >> >> -dalas >> >> --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Thomas Lockney wrote: >> >> >> >>> From: Thomas Lockney >>> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] Monday July 28 is >>> group order day >>> To: "A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)" >>> >>> Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 3:40 PM >>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Frank Canaan >>> wrote: >>>> Has anyone though of maybe using something like this: >>>> http://b2b-order-form.sourceforge.net/on the dorkbot >>> site for group >>>> ordering? >> >>> If someone wants to develop some simple PHP or, even >>> better, create a >>> Google spreadsheet for it, I'm game. But I really, >>> really don't want >>> to have to maintain and install another piece of software >>> on the site. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list >>> dorkbotpdx-blab...@dorkbot.org >>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list >> dorkbotpdx-blab...@dorkbot.orghttp://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080729/428357f6/attachment.html From paul at pjrc.com Tue Jul 29 20:08:33 2008 From: paul at pjrc.com (Paul Stoffregen) Date: Tue Jul 29 20:08:16 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Parts For Beer In-Reply-To: <585784.80911.qm@web31501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <585784.80911.qm@web31501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <488FB101.3030508@pjrc.com> I've got the 1K resistors, in 0805 size. 25 cents sure beats over a dollar. Of course, the only size I have is 0805. Everything else, just put it on the group order. dalas v. wrote: > Hm, if you have some banana plugs and jacks along with wire to make the banana cords and a few 1k resistors, I might be buying you a round. I'm not really clear on how to find and order the parts I'm looking for yet, so I'll be at Monday's meeting looking for someone to step me through the process. From ddelmardavis at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 20:54:01 2008 From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Delmar Davis) Date: Tue Jul 29 20:54:03 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [PartsForBeer] The List... In-Reply-To: <488FABD0.90504@pjrc.com> References: <488FABD0.90504@pjrc.com> Message-ID: <77744336-1CC5-4201-8EE4-591DBF496F5A@gmail.com> How many beers for one of everything? On Jul 29, 2008, at 4:46 PM, Paul Stoffregen wrote: > Here's the "Parts For Beer" list. > > > Resistor, 4.7, 5%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Resistor, 56, 5%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Resistor, 90.9, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Resistor, 100, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Resistor, 221, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Resistor, 365, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Resistor, 470, 5%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Resistor, 665, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Resistor, 6.8K, 5%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Resistor, 1.00K, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Resistor, 1.21K, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Resistor, 2.21K, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Resistor, 4.70K, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Resistor, 9.09K, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Resistor, 10.0K, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Resistor, 22K, 5%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Resistor, 33.0K, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Resistor, 47K, 5%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Resistor, 90.9K, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Resistor, 133K, 1%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Resistor, 220K, 5%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Resistor, 1M, 5%, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > > Capacitor, 3pF, Ceramic NPO/C0G, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Capacitor, 18pF, Ceramic NPO/C0G, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Capacitor, 22pF, Ceramic NPO/C0G, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Capacitor, 33pF, Ceramic NPO/C0G, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Capacitor, 470pF, Ceramic NPO/C0G, 0805, Qty=25 0.50 > Capacitor, 1500pF, Ceramic NPO/C0G, 0805, Qty=25 1.00 > Capacitor, 4700pF, Ceramic X7R, 0805, Qty=25 0.25 > Capacitor, 0.1uF, 50V, Ceramic X7R, 0805, Qty=25 0.50 > Capacitor, 1uF, 16V, Ceramic X7R, 0805, Qty=25 1.25 > Capacitor, 4.7uF, 25V, Ceramic X5R, 0805, PCC2321CT-ND, Qty=25 3.50 > Capacitor, 47uF, 35V, Alum Low-ESR, SMT, EEEFK1V470P, Qty=6 1.00 > Capacitor, 100uF, 6.3V, Tantalum, SMD, Qty=12 2.50 > > Transistor, NPN, 3904, 40V, 200mA, PMBT3904, Qty=25 0.50 > Transistor, PNP, 3906, 40V, 200mA, MMBT3906, Qty=25 0.50 > Mosfet, N-ch, FDV303N, 0.6 ohm, 25V, 50pF, SOT-23, Qty=25 > 2.50 Mosfet, P-ch, FDV304P, 1.1 ohm, 25V, 63pF, SOT-23, > Qty=25 3.75 > Diode, S2G, 1.5A, 400V, std rectifier, SMB, Qty=12 1.00 > Diode, Zener, 12V, SOT-23, Qty=25 0.75 > Diode, B120, Schottky, 1A, 20V, SMA, Qty=25 3.25 > Diode, B130, Schottky, 1A, 30V, SMA, Qty=25 3.25 > Diode, 4148, 100 mA, 75V, 4ns, 1206 (round glass), Qty=25 0.50 > > Inductor, F-Bead, 600ohm@100MHz, 1.5A, MI0805K601R-10, Qty=25 1.50 > Inductor, 4.7uH, 1.7A, shielded, 445-1184-1-ND, Qty=8 > 3.50 Inductor, 22uH, 0.9A, shielded, 445-1188-1-ND, > Qty=8 3.50 Inductor, 47uH, 10%, 80mA, PCD1028TR-ND, > Qty=25 3.00 > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/dorkbotpdx-blabber/attachments/20080729/9868a860/attachment-0001.html From krux at thcnet.net Wed Jul 30 12:55:11 2008 From: krux at thcnet.net (krux@thcnet.net) Date: Wed Jul 30 12:55:21 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Parts For Beer In-Reply-To: <488F8CD6.20506@pjrc.com> References: <488F8CD6.20506@pjrc.com> Message-ID: > I'm going to start another parts order process called "Parts For Beer", to > augment Eric's excellent group order. Here are the main features.... Parts for beer. I like that idea. perl -e 's++=END;++y(;-P)}\n?k++=;<+xru}?print:??;' From alex at x37v.info Wed Jul 30 18:16:10 2008 From: alex at x37v.info (Alex Norman) Date: Wed Jul 30 18:16:18 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Dealing with floating analog inputs, resistor value Message-ID: <20080730221610.GC25427@silverninja.net> Hi, I have some analog inputs [an i2c analog chip, max127 or max128..] that will be connected to a 1/4" [or maybe 1/8"] phono jack, allowing for various sensors to be plugged in. Obviously I don't want these inputs to be floating when nothing is plugged in, so I figure I should tie the analog inputs through a resistor to ground. My question is, how should I determine the value of this resistor? I figure a high value resistor will reduce the power consumption... what is the trade off there? Thanks, Alex From jboone at earfeast.com Wed Jul 30 19:49:35 2008 From: jboone at earfeast.com (Jared Boone) Date: Wed Jul 30 19:49:44 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Dealing with floating analog inputs, resistor value In-Reply-To: <20080730221610.GC25427@silverninja.net> References: <20080730221610.GC25427@silverninja.net> Message-ID: <266BFD1A-C42C-48B0-BD9E-E3326785CFA2@earfeast.com> Hi Alex, For your average CMOS IC, you only need to put a few microamps into the pin to nail it down. Look in the data sheet for an idea what the required input current is for a high or low voltage level. Take your power supply voltage (say 5V) and divide by maybe 10uA (Ohm's law) to figure out a reasonable resistor value: 5V / 0.00001A = 500KOhm I think people tend to pull up, instead of down, because the distance from the supply voltage to the threshold voltage is usually larger than between the threshold voltage and ground. In practice, once the input is pulled up to the supply voltage, it dissipates virtually no current, as the voltage difference between the supply and pin voltages is miniscule (thus the current across the resistor is also miniscule). Probably picoamps. Here's a good summary: http://www.interfacebus.com/IC_Output_Input_Pullup_Resistor_Values.html - Jared On Jul 30, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Alex Norman wrote: > Hi, I have some analog inputs [an i2c analog chip, max127 or > max128..] that will > be connected to a 1/4" [or maybe 1/8"] phono jack, allowing for > various sensors > to be plugged in. > > Obviously I don't want these inputs to be floating when nothing is > plugged in, > so I figure I should tie the analog inputs through a resistor to > ground. > > My question is, how should I determine the value of this resistor? > I figure a > high value resistor will reduce the power consumption... what is the > trade off > there? > > Thanks, > Alex > > _______________________________________________ > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list > dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber From james.neal at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 21:26:10 2008 From: james.neal at gmail.com (Laen) Date: Wed Jul 30 21:26:20 2008 Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Packaging markings -> part number lookup? Message-ID: <39190535-f135-4f9d-bae8-998e6a742072@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> I've been scavenging a lot of boards with very tiny surface mount components on them, and I don't know what a lot of them are. Their packaging markings don't turn up any obvious hits on google. Does anyone know a good place to look up these chip markings and find out what their manufacturing part number is? Is there a database of such things? For example, right now I have three UA TO-92 form-factor chips that I suspect are hall effect sensors. The very tiny chip marking says "Z06S 05L". There are no other manufacturer markings that I can see.