[dorkbotpdx-blabber] Re: PDX hackerspace

Donald Delmar Davis ddelmardavis at gmail.com
Mon Apr 13 02:27:58 EDT 2009


Cool

and we will usually be at #dorkbotpdx
same bat server.

Don.
On Apr 12, 2009, at 11:20 PM, Devon Gleeson wrote:

> Don,
>
> I thanks for the heads up. I think that one (or more) of the people
> trying to get this off the ground will be headed over to the dorkbot
> meeting tomorrow to give a little pitch and do a little dancey dance.
>
> also, we can be found on irc.freenode.net in #pdxhackerspace
>
> --devon
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Wm Leler <wmleler at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Speaking as the person who is organizing the electronics lab out at
>> TechShop, I agree with Don -- there are lots of reasons to  
>> establish a
>> hacker space outside of TechShop.  Having said that, I worry that  
>> there is a
>> lot of misinformation being tossed out about TechShop and the  
>> electronics
>> lab (OpenTechSpace). Let me try to clear some of this up (or just  
>> add to the
>> confusion):
>>>  24/7 access to the building.
>> My understanding from talking to Denney is that the goal is to have  
>> 24/7
>> access to TechShop ASAP. This might be dependent on finding  
>> volunteers to
>> staff some of the odd hours, and on demand, of course.  They will  
>> start by
>> being open until 9pm, but will expand as needed.
>>>  You get a card key if you do the full membership, FYI, unless I
>>> am misremembering.  I guess you probably don;t if you just use the
>>> subsidized electronics lab.
>> If you want to use the Electronics Lab under OpenTechSpace (i.e.,  
>> for free),
>> you will be issued a badge just like a regular (paid) TechShop  
>> user, except
>> that it will only allow you to use the electronics and computer labs.
>>>  No paying for certification classes to use tools.
>> The TechShop certification classes are only for dangerous or easily  
>> broken
>> expensive tools. We don't have any of those in the electronics lab
>> (soldering irons don't count!  Although as soon as we get some  
>> really fancy
>> stuff, like a flow soldering machine or something like that, we  
>> might need a
>> safety class). But for the most part I don't think it will be an  
>> issue with
>> the electronics or computer labs.
>> From what little I know about hackerspace, as far as I can tell the  
>> biggest
>> difference between the hackerspace and TechShop is the  location.  
>> The price
>> the same (for a TechShop membership, compared to rent/utilities for
>> hackerspace), and you can use the electronics or computer lab through
>> OpenTechSpace for free (what a great deal!).  TechShop probably has  
>> a (big)
>> advantage in size and number of tools. The hackerspace might have the
>> advantage of giving the members more control over it, but that can  
>> be a
>> two-edged sword.
>> OpenTechSpace is not tied to TechShop -- we definitely want to open
>> up facilities in other locations.  We have already had discussions  
>> with
>> CubeSpace and (to a lesser extent) Souk about creating other labs.  
>> So maybe
>> OpenTechSpace can help with the hacker space. If you guys are  
>> interested in
>> working with OpenTechSpace, I'm interested in talking to you.
>> Anyway, I think it is great that you guys are setting up a  
>> hackerspace.  Let
>> me know if I can help!
>> Wm Leler
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Donald Delmar Davis wrote:
>>
>> D,
>> There are lots of reasons to establish a hacker-space outside of  
>> techshop.
>> Daniel listed most of them for this particular group. (I won't bust  
>> into the
>> dk's here)
>> Personally I like the darwinian approach of starting one of  
>> everything and
>> see which ones adapt.
>>  (which explains why it takes me a million years to finish a song  
>> or a
>> painting).
>> Devon,
>> I appreciate you thinking of us, I know there are several people in  
>> this
>> group that have been wanting something like this.
>> One other thing thing I do know about this group is that they are a  
>> bit
>> provincial and you might wanna put a couple of live bodies at the  
>> meeting
>> tomorrow.
>> Don
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2009, at 4:34 PM, dave madden wrote:
>>
>> There is a group of us motivated nerds looking to build a  
>> hackerspace.
>>
>> We are looking at a rental space today, and at this point it looks
>>
>> like it's going to work out.
>>
>> Um...any reason you're not taking advantage of the electronics lab  
>> out at
>> TechShop?
>>
>> d.
>>
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