[dorkbotpdx-blabber] RE: linear solenoids? (Greg Borenstein)

Dan Gilsdorf dan_gilsdorf at hotmail.com
Mon Mar 23 00:39:44 EDT 2009


Try the surplus houses:

allelectronics.com

mpja.com

herbach.com



I have had great luck with these types of outfits, including a WHOLE
bunch of tiny push type solenoids (Smaller than the video bu perfect
for tapping) for under four dollars apiece at All Electronics. 



Dan





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>    1. Re: Teensy++ Released (special dorkbot	discount, 	March 16)
>       (Paul Stoffregen)
>    2. Re: Teensy++ Released (special dorkbot	discount, March 16)
>       (mgross)
>    3. dork to new york... (dan p)
>    4. [GroupOrder] monday march 23 is group order	day. Guest Star
>       is Newark (Eric Garner)
>    5. Re: dork to new york... (krux at thcnet.net)
>    6. linear solenoids? (Greg Borenstein)
>    7. arduino makefile that works with teensy++ (mgross)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:45:38 -0700
> From: Paul Stoffregen <paul at pjrc.com>
> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Teensy++ Released (special dorkbot
> 	discount, 	March 16)
> To: markgross at thegnar.org, "A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx
> 	(portland,	or)" <dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org>
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> 
> > I'm attempting to get the arduino make file in hardware/cores/arduino
> > work with the teensypp hardware and having some challenges.
> 
> It's been a long time since Arduino has provided a working Makefile.  
> When I created the Teensy "core" for the Arduino IDE, I didn't bring 
> over the makefile because it did not work.
> 
> > Anyone know the magic needed to build the arduino examples (from a makefile)
> > for the teensypp hardware?
> >   
> 
> You could start with the Makefile that is in the 
> arduino-0012/hardware/cores/arduino directory.  But it hasn't been 
> maintained in quite a long time, so on top of a few edited for the 
> Teensy (different filenames), it won't precisely match the Arduino IDE's 
> build process.
> 
> Long ago, the Arduino IDE simply concatenated all your files together 
> and added a single header line at the top, compiled that, then compiled 
> all the .c sources in the core directory, and linked them all together.  
> That is basically the functionality you'll find in the Makefile.
> 
> Much has changed.  Recent Arudino (including 0012) parses include lines 
> and moves them all to the top, and includes the WProgram.h one after 
> those.  I believe it does some work to create function prototypes for 
> you.  Some work is done to detect libraries.  None of this is provided 
> by the Makefile.
> 
> The build process is a moving target.  Compiler flags have changed, the 
> .a library was introduced in 0008  and removed recently (0013 & 0014), 
> but has recently reappeared in svn and should become part of 0015.  
> David Mellis (the only developer to make commits to Arduino's svn in 
> quite some time) recently spoke of accepting a patch to change the build 
> process to accept assembly, and also mentioned longer term plans to 
> avoid recompiling files unnecessarily.  Other changes have been 
> submitted but it's not clear if they'll be accepted and merged.
> 
> Nobody is maintaining that Makefile.
> 
> 
> -Paul
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:18:45 -0700
> From: mgross <markgross at thegnar.org>
> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Teensy++ Released (special dorkbot
> 	discount, March 16)
> To: Paul Stoffregen <paul at pjrc.com>
> Cc: "A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx \(portland,	or\)"
> 	<dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org>
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> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 01:45:38PM -0700, Paul Stoffregen wrote:
> >
> >> I'm attempting to get the arduino make file in hardware/cores/arduino
> >> work with the teensypp hardware and having some challenges.
> >
> > It's been a long time since Arduino has provided a working Makefile.   
> > When I created the Teensy "core" for the Arduino IDE, I didn't bring  
> > over the makefile because it did not work.
> >
> 
> yeah, I hacked up something earlier today that compiled (but I
> haven't tested.)
> 
> >> Anyone know the magic needed to build the arduino examples (from a makefile)
> >> for the teensypp hardware?
> >>   
> >
> > You could start with the Makefile that is in the  
> > arduino-0012/hardware/cores/arduino directory.  But it hasn't been  
> > maintained in quite a long time, so on top of a few edited for the  
> > Teensy (different filenames), it won't precisely match the Arduino IDE's  
> > build process.
> >
> > Long ago, the Arduino IDE simply concatenated all your files together  
> > and added a single header line at the top, compiled that, then compiled  
> > all the .c sources in the core directory, and linked them all together.   
> > That is basically the functionality you'll find in the Makefile.
> >
> > Much has changed.  Recent Arudino (including 0012) parses include lines  
> > and moves them all to the top, and includes the WProgram.h one after  
> > those.  I believe it does some work to create function prototypes for  
> > you.  Some work is done to detect libraries.  None of this is provided  
> > by the Makefile.
> >
> > The build process is a moving target.  Compiler flags have changed, the  
> > .a library was introduced in 0008  and removed recently (0013 & 0014),  
> > but has recently reappeared in svn and should become part of 0015.   
> > David Mellis (the only developer to make commits to Arduino's svn in  
> > quite some time) recently spoke of accepting a patch to change the build  
> > process to accept assembly, and also mentioned longer term plans to  
> > avoid recompiling files unnecessarily.  Other changes have been  
> > submitted but it's not clear if they'll be accepted and merged.
> >
> > Nobody is maintaining that Makefile.
> 
> thanks.  If I get something that works this weekend, I'll make it available.
> 
> --mgross
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:50:29 -0700
> From: dan p <gunterhausfrau at gmail.com>
> Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] dork to new york...
> To: dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
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> Kinda off topic (is there such a thing?) I'm heading to NY for vacation
> (monday, yes soon) and am looking for dorky NY things I shouldn't miss, or
> should try to find. The robot store (robot village?) looks to be on line
> only now, no DBNY while I am there, I'm gonna try to find "Resistor" but
> they have their open shop/craft night when on Thursday and can't make it.
> 
> What else? That Nicola Tesla themed restraunt that only you know about? a
> cool gallery? what! TELL ME! (working on NY)
> 
> Thanks.
> Dan.
> 
> p.s. what would you tell a dork to dork out in Portland?
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:56:11 -0700
> From: Eric Garner <garnere at gmail.com>
> Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [GroupOrder] monday march 23 is group
> 	order	day. Guest Star is Newark
> To: "A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland,	or)"
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> as usual the down low is here:
> 
> http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/dorkbotpdx_group_ordering
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> -- 
> --Eric
> _________________________________________
> Eric Garner
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:38:59 -0700 (PDT)
> From: krux at thcnet.net
> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] dork to new york...
> To: "A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland,	or)"
> 	<dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org>
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> > Kinda off topic (is there such a thing?) I'm heading to NY for vacation
> > (monday, yes soon) and am looking for dorky NY things I shouldn't miss, or
> > should try to find. The robot store (robot village?) looks to be on line
> > only now, no DBNY while I am there, I'm gonna try to find "Resistor" but
> > they have their open shop/craft night when on Thursday and can't make it.
> >
> > What else? That Nicola Tesla themed restraunt that only you know about? a
> > cool gallery? what! TELL ME! (working on NY)
> 
> When I went I spent quite a bit of time in the Museum of Natural History.  A
> shame you'll miss NYC Resistor.  I follow their RSS feed and it looks like
> they are always doing something interesting.
> 
> perl -e 's++=END;++y(;-P)}\n?k++=;<+xru}?print:??;'
> 
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:36:43 -0700
> From: Greg Borenstein <greg.borenstein at gmail.com>
> Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] linear solenoids?
> To: "or) A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland"
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> Anybody know a good place to order a bunch of linear solenoids? I'm  
> looking for ones in the mode of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_hiz-Kx0kM
> 
> I noticed that Surplus Gizmos seems to have a few, but I can't tell if  
> they'll work for this application (the musical knocking of things).
> 
> Any idea are welcome!
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:43:34 -0700
> From: mgross <markgross at thegnar.org>
> Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] arduino makefile that works with
> 	teensy++
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