From ward at c2.com  Tue Sep  1 10:16:09 2009
From: ward at c2.com (Ward Cunningham)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 07:16:09 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] acoustic integrator
In-Reply-To: <0DDCBBF1-0452-4E2D-8778-F27CE8AA734E@swedishstuga.com>
References: <0DDCBBF1-0452-4E2D-8778-F27CE8AA734E@swedishstuga.com>
Message-ID: <D1140C31-503A-45A6-BD03-0C58339EA555@c2.com>

That is a cute little board. If you could add a couple more components  
to it, like a diode and an RC filter, you'd pretty much have what you  
need.

Now I'm not opposed to using a little computer in place of a diode.  
The advantage there is that you can make response characteristics  
adaptive and that might be important in your application.

What's going to look at the dc voltage you produce? Does it matter if  
it has some PWM ripple on it?

Best regards. -- Ward

__________________
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503-432-5682





On Aug 31, 2009, at 6:59 PM, Brian Krejcarek wrote:

>
> We've got a fun application where we need to implement a simple  
> integrator circuit with a microphone input or vibration sensor. The  
> idea being able to detect the magnitude of the sound/noise and  
> output a DC level signal that could be read with a cheap ADC on a  
> uP.  This is for a very non traditional green application... no cool  
> flashing lights, but it's neat, I promise.  Oh., and it needs to be  
> really really low-power.  Ideally, we might even be able to use this  
> little break-out board form SparkFun.  If anyone has any ideas, let  
> talk... perhaps we could work something out.
>
> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8669
>
> Thanks!
> Brian
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From jared at deathbyhonor.com  Wed Sep  2 21:48:16 2009
From: jared at deathbyhonor.com (Jared Arave)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:48:16 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Missing a couple voltage regs?
In-Reply-To: <D1140C31-503A-45A6-BD03-0C58339EA555@c2.com>
References: <0DDCBBF1-0452-4E2D-8778-F27CE8AA734E@swedishstuga.com>
	<D1140C31-503A-45A6-BD03-0C58339EA555@c2.com>
Message-ID: <B4989667-4CD7-4136-86FC-C35A42178193@deathbyhonor.com>

Hey, I've got a couple surface mount voltage regulators (DIGIKEY P/N  
LP2951CDR2G) that got mixed in with my group order parts by mistake.  
Are they yours?

From mykle at mykle.com  Thu Sep  3 19:01:06 2009
From: mykle at mykle.com (Mykle Hansen)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 16:01:06 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] speakers -- a gift from the crap fairy.
Message-ID: <E0BED656-B430-44D8-9541-C6EFDE107CA2@mykle.com>

a box of small speakers has just been abandoned on my front doorstep.

approximately 100 2.25" speakers, rated to 1/2 watt.
no idea of the ohms.  packed in the original box.

i don't know who thought i would want these.  they could be
yours for the low, low price of PLEASE TAKE SOME.

bonus points: what's the minimum number of components to
make a programmable bleep-bloop toy with one of these?

-m-
---
HELP!  A Bear is Eating Me!
http://helpabeariseatingme.com


From skinny at knowhere.net  Thu Sep  3 19:41:11 2009
From: skinny at knowhere.net (Brian Richardson)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 16:41:11 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] speakers -- a gift from the crap fairy.
In-Reply-To: <E0BED656-B430-44D8-9541-C6EFDE107CA2@mykle.com>
References: <E0BED656-B430-44D8-9541-C6EFDE107CA2@mykle.com>
Message-ID: <7164e3620909031641w2d1a097do3dca8b3073aa5b56@mail.gmail.com>

Heh, I just snagged a sheet of speakers from this box.  They're
actually kind of cool looking.  There are enough of them that you
could do some sort of visual art project with them if you were so
inclined.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Mykle Hansen<mykle at mykle.com> wrote:
> a box of small speakers has just been abandoned on my front doorstep.
>
> approximately 100 2.25" speakers, rated to 1/2 watt.
> no idea of the ohms. ?packed in the original box.
>
> i don't know who thought i would want these. ?they could be
> yours for the low, low price of PLEASE TAKE SOME.
>
> bonus points: what's the minimum number of components to
> make a programmable bleep-bloop toy with one of these?
>
> -m-
> ---
> HELP! ?A Bear is Eating Me!
> http://helpabeariseatingme.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>

From jason at noisybox.net  Thu Sep  3 20:59:59 2009
From: jason at noisybox.net (Jason Plumb)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:59:59 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Dorkbot 0x03 videos are up on Vimeo
Message-ID: <4AA0668F.10507@noisybox.net>

Thanks again to Jared for doing all the hard work recording, converting, 
  and uploading the speaker presentations from DorkbotPDX 0x03!!

Just visit and/or join the DorkbotPDX channel on Vimeo:
http://vimeo.com/groups/2463

and you can easily find the talks by Andrew Parnell, Michael Bunsen, and 
Dan Gilsdorf.

More details on 0x03 are here:
http://dorkbotpdx.org/dorkbotpdx_0x03

Enjoy!!

-jason
http://noisybox.net

From gunterhausfrau at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 01:31:29 2009
From: gunterhausfrau at gmail.com (dan p)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 22:31:29 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] speakers -- a gift from the crap fairy.
In-Reply-To: <7164e3620909031641w2d1a097do3dca8b3073aa5b56@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E0BED656-B430-44D8-9541-C6EFDE107CA2@mykle.com>
	<7164e3620909031641w2d1a097do3dca8b3073aa5b56@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8e6971a90909032231g45af40ddj6281758dd4d12346@mail.gmail.com>

I'm up for some. Always on the hunt for multiples...

min components... there is always the popular apc, a 556 timer and a few
fiddly bits of random floatsom.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Brian Richardson <skinny at knowhere.net>wrote:

> Heh, I just snagged a sheet of speakers from this box.  They're
> actually kind of cool looking.  There are enough of them that you
> could do some sort of visual art project with them if you were so
> inclined.
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Mykle Hansen<mykle at mykle.com> wrote:
> > a box of small speakers has just been abandoned on my front doorstep.
> >
> > approximately 100 2.25" speakers, rated to 1/2 watt.
> > no idea of the ohms.  packed in the original box.
> >
> > i don't know who thought i would want these.  they could be
> > yours for the low, low price of PLEASE TAKE SOME.
> >
> > bonus points: what's the minimum number of components to
> > make a programmable bleep-bloop toy with one of these?
> >
> > -m-
> > ---
> > HELP!  A Bear is Eating Me!
> > http://helpabeariseatingme.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> > dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
> >
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
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From wmleler at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 02:29:37 2009
From: wmleler at gmail.com (Wm Leler)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 23:29:37 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Looking for people who want to demo projects
	Sept 12 at TechShop
In-Reply-To: <4AA0668F.10507@noisybox.net>
References: <4AA0668F.10507@noisybox.net>
Message-ID: <2ACBE35E-35ED-4272-86BD-992A22D2D15C@gmail.com>

TechShop is having a big public event on Sept 12, and part of that  
event is going to be people showing off things they have built. If you  
have an interesting project that you would be willing to demonstrate,  
please let me know. It should be a lot of fun.
Doesn't matter what the purpose of the project is (robotics, rocketry,  
computers, reprap, art, music, general weirdness), we just want to  
show off things that people built themselves.

I'm specifically looking for projects to show off in the electronics  
lab, so they should have some element of electronics to them, but even  
if your project doesn't, I'm sure TechShop will have a place to show  
it off.

For more information about the TechShop event (which will be fun even  
if you aren't demonstrating anything), see http://portlandtechshop.com/

Wm Leler

From dan_gilsdorf at hotmail.com  Fri Sep  4 03:53:45 2009
From: dan_gilsdorf at hotmail.com (Dan Gilsdorf)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 00:53:45 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] multiple gem windows
Message-ID: <COL116-W5362634B48991E75D8FC15F5EE0@phx.gbl>


To the PD/GEM experts out there:
Is there a way to create two (or more) GEM windows at a time, each showing a different video?  The open internet turns up some references to: gem cvs tag "multiple_window" which I don't quite grasp.  My intention is to play two videos on two projectors and have them synchronized, I'm running osX.
Thanks.
Dan

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From greg at grunest.com  Fri Sep  4 04:46:52 2009
From: greg at grunest.com (Greg Grunest)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 01:46:52 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Titanium anyone?
In-Reply-To: <2ACBE35E-35ED-4272-86BD-992A22D2D15C@gmail.com>
References: <4AA0668F.10507@noisybox.net>
	<2ACBE35E-35ED-4272-86BD-992A22D2D15C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <028e01ca2d3c$4023dbe0$c06b93a0$@com>

Hey Dorks!
(I mean that in the best possible way)

I've been trying to clean out my shop so I can actually build something in
it and while doing so I came across a small quantity of titanium.  I've got
about a dozen or so bars that are 8-10 inches long x 2 inches x 2 inches.  I
did the grinder test on them so I'm sure it's titanium but I don't know the
grade.  If I can remember correctly, how I came about it, it should be about
as high a grade titanium as is possible.

Also, if anyone needs a couple of barrels of magnesium I might be able to
hook you up.  My wife has gotten tired of me burning holes in the pavement
out in front of our house and evidently making fireworks at home is frowned
upon due to some sort of homeland security thing.

If anyone's interested, e-mail me and I'll bring it to the next meeting.

-Greg


From wmark at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  4 05:09:03 2009
From: wmark at yahoo.com (William)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 02:09:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Titanium anyone?
In-Reply-To: <028e01ca2d3c$4023dbe0$c06b93a0$@com>
References: <4AA0668F.10507@noisybox.net>
	<2ACBE35E-35ED-4272-86BD-992A22D2D15C@gmail.com>
	<028e01ca2d3c$4023dbe0$c06b93a0$@com>
Message-ID: <445388.965.qm@web112015.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I'd be interested in the titanium, not sure I've got anything to work it with though.  Since my head has it, it's kind of become a theme.  

How big are the magnesium barrels?  Don't really need much.

 



----- Original Message ----
From: Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com>
To: dorks <dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org>
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 1:46:52 AM
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Titanium anyone?

Hey Dorks!
(I mean that in the best possible way)

I've been trying to clean out my shop so I can actually build something in
it and while doing so I came across a small quantity of titanium.  I've got
about a dozen or so bars that are 8-10 inches long x 2 inches x 2 inches.  I
did the grinder test on them so I'm sure it's titanium but I don't know the
grade.  If I can remember correctly, how I came about it, it should be about
as high a grade titanium as is possible.

Also, if anyone needs a couple of barrels of magnesium I might be able to
hook you up.  My wife has gotten tired of me burning holes in the pavement
out in front of our house and evidently making fireworks at home is frowned
upon due to some sort of homeland security thing.

If anyone's interested, e-mail me and I'll bring it to the next meeting.

-Greg

_______________________________________________
dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber



      

From mykle at mykle.com  Fri Sep  4 11:32:37 2009
From: mykle at mykle.com (Mykle Hansen)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 08:32:37 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] speakers -- a gift from the crap fairy.
In-Reply-To: <200909040628.n846SPVc012236@chandra.cs.pdx.edu>
References: <8e6971a90909032231g45af40ddj6281758dd4d12346@mail.gmail.com>
	<E0BED656-B430-44D8-9541-C6EFDE107CA2@mykle.com>
	<7164e3620909031641w2d1a097do3dca8b3073aa5b56@mail.gmail.com>
	<200909040628.n846SPVc012236@chandra.cs.pdx.edu>
Message-ID: <DD6BB19B-754E-4089-BCDE-94788F513046@mykle.com>

On Sep 3, 2009, at 11:28 PMThursday, Barton C Massey wrote:

> I'll take all of them you can spare.  We can keep them out
> at OpenTechSpace to give to people doing projects, and I've
> been wondering lately about doing some beam-forming with
> these.
>
> How do I get them from you?

On Sep 3, 2009, at 10:31 PMThursday, dan p wrote:

> I'm up for some. Always on the hunt for multiples...


they are on my front steps, at 5536 NE 27th Ave.  First
come, first served.  Maybe you two could each take half?

-m-


From jboone at earfeast.com  Fri Sep  4 12:00:26 2009
From: jboone at earfeast.com (Jared Boone)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 09:00:26 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] multiple gem windows
In-Reply-To: <COL116-W5362634B48991E75D8FC15F5EE0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL116-W5362634B48991E75D8FC15F5EE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <311C11BE-3B92-43DE-803C-C77FC482CED9@earfeast.com>

On Sep 4, 2009, at 12:53 AM, Dan Gilsdorf wrote:

> Is there a way to create two (or more) GEM windows at a time, each  
> showing a different video?  The open internet turns up some  
> references to: gem cvs tag "multiple_window" which I don't quite  
> grasp.  My intention is to play two videos on two projectors and  
> have them synchronized, I'm running osX.


If someone doesn't offer a simpler solution, I've been dabbling with  
the QuickTime API lately. I would guess I could throw together a Cocoa  
application in a few hours that would play two video tracks out of a  
single QuickTime movie file (for synchronization), where each video  
goes to a different window/screen on your computer. Let me know when  
you get desperate for a solution... :-)

	- Jared

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From montyg at bittybot.com  Fri Sep  4 12:19:45 2009
From: montyg at bittybot.com (montyg at bittybot.com)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 09:19:45 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Titanium anyone?
In-Reply-To: <028e01ca2d3c$4023dbe0$c06b93a0$@com>
References: <4AA0668F.10507@noisybox.net>
	<2ACBE35E-35ED-4272-86BD-992A22D2D15C@gmail.com>
	<028e01ca2d3c$4023dbe0$c06b93a0$@com>
Message-ID: <20090904091945.o1rjhl1a0w4088sw@secure28.inmotionhosting.com>

Hi Greg,

I'd be interested in a couple bars of the titanium.  If nothing else,  
anodizing titanium in different colors is fun and easy. :)

Thanks,

Monty


Quoting Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com>:

> Hey Dorks!
> (I mean that in the best possible way)
>
> I've been trying to clean out my shop so I can actually build something in
> it and while doing so I came across a small quantity of titanium.  I've got
> about a dozen or so bars that are 8-10 inches long x 2 inches x 2 inches.  I
> did the grinder test on them so I'm sure it's titanium but I don't know the
> grade.  If I can remember correctly, how I came about it, it should be about
> as high a grade titanium as is possible.
>
> Also, if anyone needs a couple of barrels of magnesium I might be able to
> hook you up.  My wife has gotten tired of me burning holes in the pavement
> out in front of our house and evidently making fireworks at home is frowned
> upon due to some sort of homeland security thing.
>
> If anyone's interested, e-mail me and I'll bring it to the next meeting.
>
> -Greg
>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>




From james.neal at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 12:35:51 2009
From: james.neal at gmail.com (Laen)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 09:35:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
	September 7th is the next group order
Message-ID: <34635b39-49c5-4627-b677-0d486de5c115@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com>

Monday, September 7th is the next group order!

Like last time, it'll be to Digikey and Mouser.

-Laen

From dementedchihuahua at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 12:37:01 2009
From: dementedchihuahua at gmail.com (Stanley Ames)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 09:37:01 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Titanium anyone?
In-Reply-To: <028e01ca2d3c$4023dbe0$c06b93a0$@com>
References: <4AA0668F.10507@noisybox.net>
	<2ACBE35E-35ED-4272-86BD-992A22D2D15C@gmail.com>
	<028e01ca2d3c$4023dbe0$c06b93a0$@com>
Message-ID: <6dbff3170909040937td2b0a9y20f01ff9fe70df24@mail.gmail.com>

Gregg,

Can I put upon you for a bar or two of titanium? Stuff is simply magical to
work with. Thanks for the generosity!

Stan

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:46 AM, Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com> wrote:

> Hey Dorks!
> (I mean that in the best possible way)
>
> I've been trying to clean out my shop so I can actually build something in
> it and while doing so I came across a small quantity of titanium.  I've got
> about a dozen or so bars that are 8-10 inches long x 2 inches x 2 inches.
>  I
> did the grinder test on them so I'm sure it's titanium but I don't know the
> grade.  If I can remember correctly, how I came about it, it should be
> about
> as high a grade titanium as is possible.
>
> Also, if anyone needs a couple of barrels of magnesium I might be able to
> hook you up.  My wife has gotten tired of me burning holes in the pavement
> out in front of our house and evidently making fireworks at home is frowned
> upon due to some sort of homeland security thing.
>
> If anyone's interested, e-mail me and I'll bring it to the next meeting.
>
> -Greg
>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>



-- 
The era of procrastination, of half-measures, of soothing and baffling
expedients, of delays, is coming to its close. In its place we are entering
a period of consequences.

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From paul at pjrc.com  Fri Sep  4 16:06:01 2009
From: paul at pjrc.com (Paul Stoffregen)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:06:01 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Teensy 2.0 beta testing
Message-ID: <4AA17329.6030406@pjrc.com>

I'm about to release a new version of the Teensy board and I'm hoping to 
find a few people who'd be willing to beta test, particularly with using 
it in Arduino.

If you're interested and have time to really use it next week, please 
contact me.

This new Teensy is based on the ATMEGA32U4 chip, which has 32k flash and 
2.5k ram.  It has 25 I/O pins (22 on the edges for use with 
breadboards).  12 of the 25 I/O can be used as analog inputs!  
Basically, spec-wise Teensy 2.0 will be greater than or equal to a '328 
Arduino, plus real USB.  Teensy 1.0 had less than a '168 Arduino.

For the new version of Teensyduino, I'm making some substantial 
changes.  The digitalWrite() and digitalRead() functions are a new 
implementation which should be much faster and also manages the input 
buffer disable, so the analog input pins can also be used as digitial 
I/O.  Especially with 12 of 25 pins capable of working either way, I'm 
really hoping for tests using some analog capable pins for digitial I/O 
while using others for analog.

The other major change to Teensyduino is the addition of a 
Keyboard/Mouse/Joystick/Debug option.  Making the "debug" work with 
Arduino's serial monitor is still a work-in-progress... and it really 
needs beta testing, hopefully on as many platforms as possible.

If you're interested and have time next week, please let me know and 
I'll get you one of these new boards right away.  Here the deal: if you 
actually use it next week and send me useful feedback before the next 
Monday meeting (Sept 14), keep it for free.


-Paul






From dementedchihuahua at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 16:59:13 2009
From: dementedchihuahua at gmail.com (Stanley Ames)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:59:13 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Teensy 2.0 beta testing
In-Reply-To: <4AA17329.6030406@pjrc.com>
References: <4AA17329.6030406@pjrc.com>
Message-ID: <6dbff3170909041359g7b2a3bcekdfa40b9602f5d35d@mail.gmail.com>

Paul,

Count me in! I'll do some testing with the Teensy as a drop in replacement
for the Arduinos I've got controlling my aeroponics system and the automated
filtration system. I've got pretty basic code developed for this already so
I can compare it to the current implementation using the Arduino328.

Stan

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Paul Stoffregen <paul at pjrc.com> wrote:

> I'm about to release a new version of the Teensy board and I'm hoping to
> find a few people who'd be willing to beta test, particularly with using
> it in Arduino.
>
> If you're interested and have time to really use it next week, please
> contact me.
>
> This new Teensy is based on the ATMEGA32U4 chip, which has 32k flash and
> 2.5k ram.  It has 25 I/O pins (22 on the edges for use with
> breadboards).  12 of the 25 I/O can be used as analog inputs!
> Basically, spec-wise Teensy 2.0 will be greater than or equal to a '328
> Arduino, plus real USB.  Teensy 1.0 had less than a '168 Arduino.
>
> For the new version of Teensyduino, I'm making some substantial
> changes.  The digitalWrite() and digitalRead() functions are a new
> implementation which should be much faster and also manages the input
> buffer disable, so the analog input pins can also be used as digitial
> I/O.  Especially with 12 of 25 pins capable of working either way, I'm
> really hoping for tests using some analog capable pins for digitial I/O
> while using others for analog.
>
> The other major change to Teensyduino is the addition of a
> Keyboard/Mouse/Joystick/Debug option.  Making the "debug" work with
> Arduino's serial monitor is still a work-in-progress... and it really
> needs beta testing, hopefully on as many platforms as possible.
>
> If you're interested and have time next week, please let me know and
> I'll get you one of these new boards right away.  Here the deal: if you
> actually use it next week and send me useful feedback before the next
> Monday meeting (Sept 14), keep it for free.
>
>
> -Paul
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>



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From ddelmardavis at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 17:34:34 2009
From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Davis)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 14:34:34 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Teensy 2.0 beta testing
In-Reply-To: <4AA17329.6030406@pjrc.com>
References: <4AA17329.6030406@pjrc.com>
Message-ID: <BE0342F8-186D-4E36-95AF-8822D3700DF8@gmail.com>

Send me one as well.

On Sep 4, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Paul Stoffregen wrote:

> I'm about to release a new version of the Teensy board and I'm  
> hoping to
> find a few people who'd be willing to beta test, particularly with  
> using
> it in Arduino.
>
> If you're interested and have time to really use it next week, please
> contact me.
>
> This new Teensy is based on the ATMEGA32U4 chip, which has 32k  
> flash and
> 2.5k ram.  It has 25 I/O pins (22 on the edges for use with
> breadboards).  12 of the 25 I/O can be used as analog inputs!
> Basically, spec-wise Teensy 2.0 will be greater than or equal to a  
> '328
> Arduino, plus real USB.  Teensy 1.0 had less than a '168 Arduino.
>
> For the new version of Teensyduino, I'm making some substantial
> changes.  The digitalWrite() and digitalRead() functions are a new
> implementation which should be much faster and also manages the input
> buffer disable, so the analog input pins can also be used as digitial
> I/O.  Especially with 12 of 25 pins capable of working either way, I'm
> really hoping for tests using some analog capable pins for digitial  
> I/O
> while using others for analog.
>
> The other major change to Teensyduino is the addition of a
> Keyboard/Mouse/Joystick/Debug option.  Making the "debug" work with
> Arduino's serial monitor is still a work-in-progress... and it really
> needs beta testing, hopefully on as many platforms as possible.
>
> If you're interested and have time next week, please let me know and
> I'll get you one of these new boards right away.  Here the deal: if  
> you
> actually use it next week and send me useful feedback before the next
> Monday meeting (Sept 14), keep it for free.
>
>
> -Paul
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber


From ddelmardavis at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 17:37:08 2009
From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Davis)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 14:37:08 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] needed: Dead MacBook (screen)
Message-ID: <AA208DC9-F805-45C9-822C-00904762D321@gmail.com>

Recently I lost the screen on my (13") macbook which I have become  
really rather dependent on. If you or anyone you know has a dead mac  
with a good screen It would be immensely helpful.

Don -- aka feurig. 

From scott at dixons.mailworks.org  Fri Sep  4 18:30:48 2009
From: scott at dixons.mailworks.org (Scott Dixon)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 15:30:48 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] needed: Dead MacBook (screen)
In-Reply-To: <AA208DC9-F805-45C9-822C-00904762D321@gmail.com>
References: <AA208DC9-F805-45C9-822C-00904762D321@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <61F119ED-2C75-46DE-BB8E-6F02633CE55C@dixons.mailworks.org>

Don-
As a matter of fact, I have a white macbook which I am pretty sure is  
a 13".  I'm not home now to check but it is the smaller of the two  
models they used to make which I think is 13".  The logic board failed  
but I am almost certain that the display is OK.  You are welcome to  
give it a try.
-Scott
On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Donald Davis wrote:

> Recently I lost the screen on my (13") macbook which I have become
> really rather dependent on. If you or anyone you know has a dead mac
> with a good screen It would be immensely helpful.
>
> Don -- aka feurig.
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber


From reidab at reidab.com  Fri Sep  4 21:44:36 2009
From: reidab at reidab.com (Reid Beels)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 18:44:36 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Titanium anyone?
In-Reply-To: <028e01ca2d3c$4023dbe0$c06b93a0$@com>
References: <4AA0668F.10507@noisybox.net>
	<2ACBE35E-35ED-4272-86BD-992A22D2D15C@gmail.com>
	<028e01ca2d3c$4023dbe0$c06b93a0$@com>
Message-ID: <F80EB534-F262-4048-9DE0-451B8A7D10BA@reidab.com>

I'd be interested in some of the magnesium. What size are these  
barrels you have?

Reid

On Sep 4, 2009, at 1:46 AM, Greg Grunest wrote:

> Hey Dorks!
> (I mean that in the best possible way)
>
> I've been trying to clean out my shop so I can actually build  
> something in
> it and while doing so I came across a small quantity of titanium.   
> I've got
> about a dozen or so bars that are 8-10 inches long x 2 inches x 2  
> inches.  I
> did the grinder test on them so I'm sure it's titanium but I don't  
> know the
> grade.  If I can remember correctly, how I came about it, it should  
> be about
> as high a grade titanium as is possible.
>
> Also, if anyone needs a couple of barrels of magnesium I might be  
> able to
> hook you up.  My wife has gotten tired of me burning holes in the  
> pavement
> out in front of our house and evidently making fireworks at home is  
> frowned
> upon due to some sort of homeland security thing.
>
> If anyone's interested, e-mail me and I'll bring it to the next  
> meeting.
>
> -Greg
>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber


From coldham2 at mac.com  Fri Sep  4 23:14:42 2009
From: coldham2 at mac.com (coldham2 at mac.com)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:14:42 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] two Gem windows
Message-ID: <BF506650-9649-4DE4-BE16-60A3AFE66550@mac.com>

I think the support of multiple gem windows is in development . One  
workaround is to have two instances of Pd open, each with it's own  
Gem. In os x, you can't launch two from the finder though (afaik) but  
you can do it from the terminal thus:

$ /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd &


and you do that twice. This throws a bunch of warnings and errors,  
but I was able to open two gem windows. Then you can get the two Pd  
instances to communicate using netsend and netreceive.

Might get messy trying to keep everything straight! Good luck!

Collin

From bart at cs.pdx.edu  Sat Sep  5 01:01:10 2009
From: bart at cs.pdx.edu (Barton C Massey)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:01:10 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Titanium anyone?
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 04 Sep 2009 01:46:52 PDT."
	<028e01ca2d3c$4023dbe0$c06b93a0$@com> 
References: <028e01ca2d3c$4023dbe0$c06b93a0$@com> 
	<4AA0668F.10507@noisybox.net>
	<2ACBE35E-35ED-4272-86BD-992A22D2D15C@gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <200909050501.n8551AVI026577@chandra.cs.pdx.edu>

I don't know about the magnesium, but I suspect the Portland
State Aerospace Society could find a use for the titanium.
I've cced our airframe team, who will hopefully comment.

	Bart

In message <028e01ca2d3c$4023dbe0$c06b93a0$@com> you wrote:
> Hey Dorks!
> (I mean that in the best possible way)
> 
> I've been trying to clean out my shop so I can actually build something in
> it and while doing so I came across a small quantity of titanium.  I've got
> about a dozen or so bars that are 8-10 inches long x 2 inches x 2 inches.  I
> did the grinder test on them so I'm sure it's titanium but I don't know the
> grade.  If I can remember correctly, how I came about it, it should be about
> as high a grade titanium as is possible.
> 
> Also, if anyone needs a couple of barrels of magnesium I might be able to
> hook you up.  My wife has gotten tired of me burning holes in the pavement
> out in front of our house and evidently making fireworks at home is frowned
> upon due to some sort of homeland security thing.
> 
> If anyone's interested, e-mail me and I'll bring it to the next meeting.
> 
> -Greg
> 
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber

From ddelmardavis at gmail.com  Sat Sep  5 01:26:57 2009
From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Davis)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 22:26:57 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] needed: Dead MacBook (screen)
In-Reply-To: <61F119ED-2C75-46DE-BB8E-6F02633CE55C@dixons.mailworks.org>
References: <AA208DC9-F805-45C9-822C-00904762D321@gmail.com>
	<61F119ED-2C75-46DE-BB8E-6F02633CE55C@dixons.mailworks.org>
Message-ID: <EC1A33F6-5B74-4C4F-87B4-9DCF5030B215@gmail.com>

That would so rule!

What is the best way to get it?

On Sep 4, 2009, at 3:30 PM, Scott Dixon wrote:

> Don-
> As a matter of fact, I have a white macbook which I am pretty sure is
> a 13".  I'm not home now to check but it is the smaller of the two
> models they used to make which I think is 13".  The logic board failed
> but I am almost certain that the display is OK.  You are welcome to
> give it a try.
> -Scott
> On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Donald Davis wrote:
>
>> Recently I lost the screen on my (13") macbook which I have become
>> really rather dependent on. If you or anyone you know has a dead mac
>> with a good screen It would be immensely helpful.
>>
>> Don -- aka feurig.
>> _______________________________________________
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber


From ddelmardavis at gmail.com  Sat Sep  5 02:05:31 2009
From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Davis)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 23:05:31 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] needed: Dead MacBook (screen)
In-Reply-To: <61F119ED-2C75-46DE-BB8E-6F02633CE55C@dixons.mailworks.org>
References: <AA208DC9-F805-45C9-822C-00904762D321@gmail.com>
	<61F119ED-2C75-46DE-BB8E-6F02633CE55C@dixons.mailworks.org>
Message-ID: <9359C9EC-3358-440A-AF8E-59E45F370760@gmail.com>

Thanks again scott.

It turned out to be the wrong mac. I still need a screen for a MacBook.


On Sep 4, 2009, at 3:30 PM, Scott Dixon wrote:

> Don-
> As a matter of fact, I have a white macbook which I am pretty sure is
> a 13".  I'm not home now to check but it is the smaller of the two
> models they used to make which I think is 13".  The logic board failed
> but I am almost certain that the display is OK.  You are welcome to
> give it a try.
> -Scott
> On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Donald Davis wrote:
>
>> Recently I lost the screen on my (13") macbook which I have become
>> really rather dependent on. If you or anyone you know has a dead mac
>> with a good screen It would be immensely helpful.
>>
>> Don -- aka feurig.
>> _______________________________________________
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber


From skinny at knowhere.net  Sat Sep  5 18:56:40 2009
From: skinny at knowhere.net (Brian Richardson)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 15:56:40 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
	September 7th is the 	next group order
In-Reply-To: <34635b39-49c5-4627-b677-0d486de5c115@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com>
References: <34635b39-49c5-4627-b677-0d486de5c115@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <7164e3620909051556gcb424eex966a4d21e34ae966@mail.gmail.com>

Digikey:

1	25	2N5088BU-ND	NPN LL LN HI GAIN AMP TRANS TO92		0	0.08560	$2.14
2	10	FQP50N06L-ND	MOSFET N-CH 60V 52.4A TO-220		0	0.86800	$8.68
3	25	1.0H-ND	RES 1.0 OHM 1/2W 5% CARBON FILM		0	0.05800	$1.45

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Laen<james.neal at gmail.com> wrote:
> Monday, September 7th is the next group order!
>
> Like last time, it'll be to Digikey and Mouser.
>
> -Laen
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>

From thomas at lockney.net  Sun Sep  6 02:48:34 2009
From: thomas at lockney.net (Thomas Lockney)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 23:48:34 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] How to be more involved with DorkbotPDX
Message-ID: <7a05808a0909052348w438f5f3fh3ab53026821beea4@mail.gmail.com>

I figured it was probably about time to make sure everyone on the
mailing list had a good, solid understanding of all the ways you could
participate in DorkbotPDX. Some of us are information junkies, so we
have adopted a wealth of ways to share between ourselves and any
passersby. Here are a variety of things you can do if you are
interested in being a part of this crowd (we are most definitely
non-exclusive!):

 * Present on something interesting you're doing/working on/interested
in at an upcoming meeting! Let me (thomas at lockney.net) or Jason
(jason at noisybox.net) know if you have an idea for something you'd like
to share.
 * Sign up for the mailing lists:
http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/mailing_lists (I would hope if you're
seeing this, you've already done so)
 * Join us on IRC: http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/irc
 * Sign up on the website and create a member page:
http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/members
 * Join the DorkbotPDX Flickr group and post pictures you'd like to
share with the group: http://www.flickr.com/groups/dorkbotpdx/
 * Tag your delicious.com posts with "dorkbotpdx" if you'd like others
in the group to see them: http://delicious.com/tag/dorkbotpdx
 * Sign up for our Vimeo group and share your Dorkbot videos:
http://vimeo.com/groups/2463
 * Best of all, join us at our meetings: http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/meetings

If there's some other way you'd like to get involved or you'd like to
make DorkbotPDX aware of something you're working on, feel free to
contact us via any of these means.

From ddelmardavis at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 19:43:10 2009
From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Davis)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:43:10 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
	September 7th is the  next group order
In-Reply-To: <7164e3620909051556gcb424eex966a4d21e34ae966@mail.gmail.com>
References: <34635b39-49c5-4627-b677-0d486de5c115@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com>
	<7164e3620909051556gcb424eex966a4d21e34ae966@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <36642075-F15D-4BAB-8166-DF568000673D@gmail.com>

Digikey

1	1	336-1298-ND	IC 8051 MCU FLASH 64K 48TQFP		0	8.48000	$8.48
2	2	AT89C5131A-S3SUM-ND	IC 8051 MCU FLASH 32K USB 52PLCC		0	8.60000	 
$17.20
3	2	336-1659-5-ND	IC 8051 MCU 2K-EEPROM 14-SOIC		0	0.83000	$1.66
4	10	497-1847-5-ND	IC MUX/DEMUX DUAL 4X1 16DIP		0	0.58800	$5.88
5	10	497-1848-1-ND	IC MUX/DEMUX DUAL 4X1 16SOIC		0	0.39900	$3.99
6	1	296-11091-ND	IC USB STREAMING CNTRLR 52-TQFP		0	7.60000	$7.60

On Sep 5, 2009, at 3:56 PM, Brian Richardson wrote:

> Digikey:
>
> 1	25	2N5088BU-ND	NPN LL LN HI GAIN AMP TRANS TO92		0	0.08560	$2.14
> 2	10	FQP50N06L-ND	MOSFET N-CH 60V 52.4A TO-220		0	0.86800	$8.68
> 3	25	1.0H-ND	RES 1.0 OHM 1/2W 5% CARBON FILM		0	0.05800	$1.45
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Laen<james.neal at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Monday, September 7th is the next group order!
>>
>> Like last time, it'll be to Digikey and Mouser.
>>
>> -Laen
>> _______________________________________________
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber


From armatronix at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep  7 21:40:47 2009
From: armatronix at sbcglobal.net (Hans Lindauer)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:40:47 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
 September 7th is the  next group order
In-Reply-To: <36642075-F15D-4BAB-8166-DF568000673D@gmail.com>
References: <34635b39-49c5-4627-b677-0d486de5c115@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com>	<7164e3620909051556gcb424eex966a4d21e34ae966@mail.gmail.com>
	<36642075-F15D-4BAB-8166-DF568000673D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AA5B61F.8020108@sbcglobal.net>

Hi Laen, I've saved my portion of the Mouser order as a cart.  If I do 
that,

   1. Does it make it easier for you, and
   2. Do you need anything more here than the link?

Mouser:  
http://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=d3fe96a888 
<http://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=bdf792f682>

Thanks,
-Hans


Monday, September 7th is the next group order!
>>> Like last time, it'll be to Digikey and Mouser.
>>>
>>> -Laen
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>>>       
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From jason at noisybox.net  Tue Sep  8 02:19:01 2009
From: jason at noisybox.net (Jason Plumb)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:19:01 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
 September 7th is the  next group order
In-Reply-To: <4AA5B61F.8020108@sbcglobal.net>
References: <34635b39-49c5-4627-b677-0d486de5c115@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com>	<7164e3620909051556gcb424eex966a4d21e34ae966@mail.gmail.com>	<36642075-F15D-4BAB-8166-DF568000673D@gmail.com>
	<4AA5B61F.8020108@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4AA5F755.40200@noisybox.net>

Hans Lindauer wrote:
> 1. Does it make it easier for you, and
> 2. Do you need anything more here than the link?

I totally don't feel strongly about this, and I know we've probably had 
this conversation before, but I personally like seeing in detail what 
other people are buying.  That generally means short descriptions in 
addition to part numbers, quantities, and prices.

While the cart link might be convenient, it doesn't encourage others to 
jump on or push toward group discounts that detailed lists might.

Just my $0.02 USD.

-jason
http://noisybox.net

From dan_gilsdorf at hotmail.com  Tue Sep  8 12:02:02 2009
From: dan_gilsdorf at hotmail.com (Dan Gilsdorf)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 09:02:02 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Quartz Composer Visualizer
Message-ID: <COL116-W55AA6F7D2F0B3725B4D848F5EA0@phx.gbl>


I'm trying to play a single video split between two monitors (like a video wall).  QCVisualizer supports this and
I have it working up to a point.  In the preview window, everything lines up just as (I think) it should but
when I hit the start button I get two blank screens instead of the two halves of the video.  When I hit esc
it quits full-screen mode and goes back to the preview screen which looks fine.  I'm sure there is some setting I 
have neglected but after a day of searching I'm still empty handed. Any thoughts?

Thanks!

Dan


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From dorkbot at mersenne.com  Tue Sep  8 12:26:41 2009
From: dorkbot at mersenne.com (dave madden)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 09:26:41 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Group Order Etiquette
In-Reply-To: <mailman.170.1252425729.158.dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org>
References: <mailman.170.1252425729.158.dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org>
Message-ID: <1252427201.5900.23.camel@voodoo.mersenne.com>

On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 12:02 -0400, Jason Plumb <jason at noisybox.net>
wrote:

> I totally don't feel strongly about this, and I know we've probably
> had this conversation before, but I personally like seeing in detail
> what other people are buying.  That generally means short descriptions
> in addition to part numbers, quantities, and prices.
> 
> While the cart link might be convenient, it doesn't encourage others
> to jump on or push toward group discounts that detailed lists might.

I like seeing what others are buying too, but either it's a moderate
hassle to create the plain-text-format list for sending to
Dorkbot-Blabber, or I don't know the trick for doing it.  Plus, I have
to assume that whoever is placing the orders then has to re-type
everything, which is probably also a hassle, and could end up getting
parts wrong.

Perhaps we could create "Dorkbot" users on Mouser & Digikey (at least),
and share the password here.  Then, anybody who wants to participate in
a group buy can just add items to a saved cart named after the date the
order is going out.  Mouser, at least, allows you to put notes on each
line item, so participants could put their email or dorkbot name there.

Maybe there's a risk of concurrent editing problems, but we could try it
out at the next meeting to see if there's any hope of it working.
ALternatively, maybe we could make a shared spreadsheet with Google Docs
and put the orders there.

In terms of priorities, mine would be to make running the group order
easy for whoever's doing it, followed by getting a slightly better price
on something I bought because somebody else bought more of the same
thing.

d.


From james.neal at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 13:00:34 2009
From: james.neal at gmail.com (Laen)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 10:00:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
	September 7th is the next group order
In-Reply-To: <4AA5F755.40200@noisybox.net>
References: <34635b39-49c5-4627-b677-0d486de5c115@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com>
	<7164e3620909051556gcb424eex966a4d21e34ae966@mail.gmail.com> 
	<36642075-F15D-4BAB-8166-DF568000673D@gmail.com>
	<4AA5B61F.8020108@sbcglobal.net> <4AA5F755.40200@noisybox.net>
Message-ID: <6671173d-af4c-4a0b-be5e-85a40079b654@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com>

Yeah, I agree.  I'm working on a little webapp to make this easier
(while still being "social"), but in the meantime, my preferred format
is:

Qty 5, Digikey, ATMEGA328P-PU-ND, Atmega328P Micocontroller - PDIP-28

That's just the information I need to place the order, plus a brief
description so I make sure I'm getting the right part, and so that
others can go "Hey! That sounds like fun!  Give me a few of those
too!"

-Laen

On Sep 7, 11:19?pm, Jason Plumb <ja... at noisybox.net> wrote:
> Hans Lindauer wrote:
> > 1. Does it make it easier for you, and
> > 2. Do you need anything more here than the link?
>
> I totally don't feel strongly about this, and I know we've probably had
> this conversation before, but I personally like seeing in detail what
> other people are buying. ?That generally means short descriptions in
> addition to part numbers, quantities, and prices.
>
> While the cart link might be convenient, it doesn't encourage others to
> jump on or push toward group discounts that detailed lists might.
>
> Just my $0.02 USD.
>
> -jasonhttp://noisybox.net
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blab... at dorkbot.orghttp://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber

From gunterhausfrau at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 13:54:15 2009
From: gunterhausfrau at gmail.com (dan p)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 10:54:15 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
	September 7th is the 	next group order
In-Reply-To: <6671173d-af4c-4a0b-be5e-85a40079b654@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com>
References: <34635b39-49c5-4627-b677-0d486de5c115@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com>
	<7164e3620909051556gcb424eex966a4d21e34ae966@mail.gmail.com>
	<36642075-F15D-4BAB-8166-DF568000673D@gmail.com>
	<4AA5B61F.8020108@sbcglobal.net> <4AA5F755.40200@noisybox.net>
	<6671173d-af4c-4a0b-be5e-85a40079b654@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <8e6971a90909081054k2f54f519p20e92499a5bf55e0@mail.gmail.com>

one word.
encoders...

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Laen <james.neal at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah, I agree.  I'm working on a little webapp to make this easier
> (while still being "social"), but in the meantime, my preferred format
> is:
>
> Qty 5, Digikey, ATMEGA328P-PU-ND, Atmega328P Micocontroller - PDIP-28
>
> That's just the information I need to place the order, plus a brief
> description so I make sure I'm getting the right part, and so that
> others can go "Hey! That sounds like fun!  Give me a few of those
> too!"
>
> -Laen
>
> On Sep 7, 11:19 pm, Jason Plumb <ja... at noisybox.net> wrote:
> > Hans Lindauer wrote:
> > > 1. Does it make it easier for you, and
> > > 2. Do you need anything more here than the link?
> >
> > I totally don't feel strongly about this, and I know we've probably had
> > this conversation before, but I personally like seeing in detail what
> > other people are buying.  That generally means short descriptions in
> > addition to part numbers, quantities, and prices.
> >
> > While the cart link might be convenient, it doesn't encourage others to
> > jump on or push toward group discounts that detailed lists might.
> >
> > Just my $0.02 USD.
> >
> > -jasonhttp://noisybox.net
> > _______________________________________________
> > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> > dorkbotpdx-blab... at dorkbot.orghttp://
> music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>  _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>
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From gunterhausfrau at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 13:58:58 2009
From: gunterhausfrau at gmail.com (dan p)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 10:58:58 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Group Order Etiquette
In-Reply-To: <1252427201.5900.23.camel@voodoo.mersenne.com>
References: <mailman.170.1252425729.158.dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org>
	<1252427201.5900.23.camel@voodoo.mersenne.com>
Message-ID: <8e6971a90909081058k248fdc00pf36ea8adc6e04878@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe I missed something, but is there a problem that we are trying to
solve? I wasn't aware of any misses when it comes to ordering the wrong
parts. Is it really that onerous to put in the plain text descriptions?



Maybe if Laen says it is a pain to put in orders as we have been, then yes,
but seems like "ain't broke, don't fix" applies...





On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:26 AM, dave madden <dorkbot at mersenne.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 12:02 -0400, Jason Plumb <jason at noisybox.net>
> wrote:
>
> > I totally don't feel strongly about this, and I know we've probably
> > had this conversation before, but I personally like seeing in detail
> > what other people are buying.  That generally means short descriptions
> > in addition to part numbers, quantities, and prices.
> >
> > While the cart link might be convenient, it doesn't encourage others
> > to jump on or push toward group discounts that detailed lists might.
>
> I like seeing what others are buying too, but either it's a moderate
> hassle to create the plain-text-format list for sending to
> Dorkbot-Blabber, or I don't know the trick for doing it.  Plus, I have
> to assume that whoever is placing the orders then has to re-type
> everything, which is probably also a hassle, and could end up getting
> parts wrong.
>
> Perhaps we could create "Dorkbot" users on Mouser & Digikey (at least),
> and share the password here.  Then, anybody who wants to participate in
> a group buy can just add items to a saved cart named after the date the
> order is going out.  Mouser, at least, allows you to put notes on each
> line item, so participants could put their email or dorkbot name there.
>
> Maybe there's a risk of concurrent editing problems, but we could try it
> out at the next meeting to see if there's any hope of it working.
> ALternatively, maybe we could make a shared spreadsheet with Google Docs
> and put the orders there.
>
> In terms of priorities, mine would be to make running the group order
> easy for whoever's doing it, followed by getting a slightly better price
> on something I bought because somebody else bought more of the same
> thing.
>
> d.
>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
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From dausmus at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 14:04:52 2009
From: dausmus at gmail.com (Doug Ausmus)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:04:52 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Group Order Etiquette
In-Reply-To: <8e6971a90909081058k248fdc00pf36ea8adc6e04878@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.170.1252425729.158.dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org>
	<1252427201.5900.23.camel@voodoo.mersenne.com>
	<8e6971a90909081058k248fdc00pf36ea8adc6e04878@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <307640010909081104y3cd6c66bi64b7897916b0f3b0@mail.gmail.com>

Well, you know how it is... "if it ain't broke, fix it until it is!" <g>

Actually, a group like this can't help but try to make everything
better, even if it is working. I think that is part of the definition
of being part of this group.
:-)

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:58 AM, dan p<gunterhausfrau at gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe I missed something, but is there a problem that we are trying to
> solve??I wasn't aware of any misses when it comes to ordering the wrong
> parts. Is it really that onerous to put in the plain text descriptions?
>
>
>
> Maybe if Laen says it is a pain to put in orders as we have been, then yes,
> but seems like "ain't broke, don't fix" applies...
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:26 AM, dave madden <dorkbot at mersenne.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 12:02 -0400, Jason Plumb <jason at noisybox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I totally don't feel strongly about this, and I know we've probably
>> > had this conversation before, but I personally like seeing in detail
>> > what other people are buying. ?That generally means short descriptions
>> > in addition to part numbers, quantities, and prices.
>> >
>> > While the cart link might be convenient, it doesn't encourage others
>> > to jump on or push toward group discounts that detailed lists might.
>>
>> I like seeing what others are buying too, but either it's a moderate
>> hassle to create the plain-text-format list for sending to
>> Dorkbot-Blabber, or I don't know the trick for doing it. ?Plus, I have
>> to assume that whoever is placing the orders then has to re-type
>> everything, which is probably also a hassle, and could end up getting
>> parts wrong.
>>
>> Perhaps we could create "Dorkbot" users on Mouser & Digikey (at least),
>> and share the password here. ?Then, anybody who wants to participate in
>> a group buy can just add items to a saved cart named after the date the
>> order is going out. ?Mouser, at least, allows you to put notes on each
>> line item, so participants could put their email or dorkbot name there.
>>
>> Maybe there's a risk of concurrent editing problems, but we could try it
>> out at the next meeting to see if there's any hope of it working.
>> ALternatively, maybe we could make a shared spreadsheet with Google Docs
>> and put the orders there.
>>
>> In terms of priorities, mine would be to make running the group order
>> easy for whoever's doing it, followed by getting a slightly better price
>> on something I bought because somebody else bought more of the same
>> thing.
>>
>> d.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>

From jmejia at tffenterprises.com  Tue Sep  8 14:32:11 2009
From: jmejia at tffenterprises.com (Jesse Mejia)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:32:11 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
 September 7th is the next group order
In-Reply-To: <6671173d-af4c-4a0b-be5e-85a40079b654@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com>
References: <34635b39-49c5-4627-b677-0d486de5c115@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com>
	<7164e3620909051556gcb424eex966a4d21e34ae966@mail.gmail.com>
	<36642075-F15D-4BAB-8166-DF568000673D@gmail.com>
	<4AA5B61F.8020108@sbcglobal.net> <4AA5F755.40200@noisybox.net>
	<6671173d-af4c-4a0b-be5e-85a40079b654@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <web-12861437@mail.tffenterprises.com>

Last minute Mouser add!

QTY 5, Mouser, 512-CD40106BCN, 40106 Hex schmitt trigger
QTY 5, Mouser, 595-CD4040BEE4, 4040 Counter 12 stage binary
QTY 5, Mouser, 512-MM74HC4051N, 4051 8-ch multiplexor

Thanks!

-Jesse

On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 10:00:34 -0700 (PDT)
  Laen <james.neal at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, I agree.  I'm working on a little webapp to make this easier
> (while still being "social"), but in the meantime, my preferred 
>format
> is:
> 
> Qty 5, Digikey, ATMEGA328P-PU-ND, Atmega328P Micocontroller - 
>PDIP-28
> 
> That's just the information I need to place the order, plus a brief
> description so I make sure I'm getting the right part, and so that
> others can go "Hey! That sounds like fun!  Give me a few of those
> too!"
> 
> -Laen
> 
> On Sep 7, 11:19?pm, Jason Plumb <ja... at noisybox.net> wrote:
>> Hans Lindauer wrote:
>> > 1. Does it make it easier for you, and
>> > 2. Do you need anything more here than the link?
>>
>> I totally don't feel strongly about this, and I know we've probably 
>>had
>> this conversation before, but I personally like seeing in detail 
>>what
>> other people are buying. ?That generally means short descriptions in
>> addition to part numbers, quantities, and prices.
>>
>> While the cart link might be convenient, it doesn't encourage others 
>>to
>> jump on or push toward group discounts that detailed lists might.
>>
>> Just my $0.02 USD.
>>
>> -jasonhttp://noisybox.net
>> _______________________________________________
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>> dorkbotpdx-blab... at dorkbot.orghttp://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber


From paul at pjrc.com  Tue Sep  8 17:50:03 2009
From: paul at pjrc.com (Paul Stoffregen)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:50:03 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] what arduino version do you use?
Message-ID: <4AA6D18B.2050003@pjrc.com>

I'm trying to decide how far back in Arduino versions I should support 
for the Teensy.  Within the last year, the Arduino team has made 6 
releases, 0012 through 0017.  Multiply by 3 platforms and that's a lot 
of builds!

So I'm curious which ones are being actively used?


-Paul

From dementedchihuahua at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 18:04:03 2009
From: dementedchihuahua at gmail.com (Stanley Ames)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 15:04:03 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] what arduino version do you use?
In-Reply-To: <4AA6D18B.2050003@pjrc.com>
References: <4AA6D18B.2050003@pjrc.com>
Message-ID: <6dbff3170909081504g23bcf5f5mfcf02cf81e49130f@mail.gmail.com>

I'm using 0016 on windows and linux.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Paul Stoffregen <paul at pjrc.com> wrote:

> I'm trying to decide how far back in Arduino versions I should support
> for the Teensy.  Within the last year, the Arduino team has made 6
> releases, 0012 through 0017.  Multiply by 3 platforms and that's a lot
> of builds!
>
> So I'm curious which ones are being actively used?
>
>
> -Paul
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>



-- 
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expedients, of delays, is coming to its close. In its place we are entering
a period of consequences.

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From ddelmardavis at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 18:22:02 2009
From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Delmar Davis)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 15:22:02 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] what arduino version do you use?
In-Reply-To: <4AA6D18B.2050003@pjrc.com>
References: <4AA6D18B.2050003@pjrc.com>
Message-ID: <3B1AB558-F14F-44A7-8E9C-1E70EBD3BFFD@gmail.com>

I have been using 16/17 because of the 328 support.
After that 12 seems the only relatively stable release.

On Sep 8, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Paul Stoffregen wrote:

> I'm trying to decide how far back in Arduino versions I should support
> for the Teensy.  Within the last year, the Arduino team has made 6
> releases, 0012 through 0017.  Multiply by 3 platforms and that's a lot
> of builds!
>
> So I'm curious which ones are being actively used?
>
>
> -Paul
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber


From gunterhausfrau at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 19:05:57 2009
From: gunterhausfrau at gmail.com (dan p)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 16:05:57 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] what arduino version do you use?
In-Reply-To: <3B1AB558-F14F-44A7-8E9C-1E70EBD3BFFD@gmail.com>
References: <4AA6D18B.2050003@pjrc.com>
	<3B1AB558-F14F-44A7-8E9C-1E70EBD3BFFD@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8e6971a90909081605q67430b84xe4bda8ce070783c4@mail.gmail.com>

I was using 12, but since have upgraded (haven't used it much since then)
Not sure which after that, but guessing one of the less than stable
versions.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Donald Delmar Davis
<ddelmardavis at gmail.com>wrote:

> I have been using 16/17 because of the 328 support.
> After that 12 seems the only relatively stable release.
>
> On Sep 8, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Paul Stoffregen wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to decide how far back in Arduino versions I should support
> > for the Teensy.  Within the last year, the Arduino team has made 6
> > releases, 0012 through 0017.  Multiply by 3 platforms and that's a lot
> > of builds!
> >
> > So I'm curious which ones are being actively used?
> >
> >
> > -Paul
> > _______________________________________________
> > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> > dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>
> _______________________________________________
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From mykle at mykle.com  Tue Sep  8 19:35:31 2009
From: mykle at mykle.com (Mykle Hansen)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 16:35:31 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] what arduino version do you use?
In-Reply-To: <4AA6D18B.2050003@pjrc.com>
References: <4AA6D18B.2050003@pjrc.com>
Message-ID: <3256D240-5E2A-4638-A450-971E6CD161EA@mykle.com>

i guess i'm on 0015 ... i would upgrade if i had to,
unless something was broken in the upgrade.

-m-

On Sep 8, 2009, at 2:50 PMTuesday, Paul Stoffregen wrote:

> I'm trying to decide how far back in Arduino versions I should support
> for the Teensy.  Within the last year, the Arduino team has made 6
> releases, 0012 through 0017.  Multiply by 3 platforms and that's a lot
> of builds!
>
> So I'm curious which ones are being actively used?
>
>
> -Paul
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber

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From coldham2 at mac.com  Tue Sep  8 20:16:01 2009
From: coldham2 at mac.com (coldham2 at mac.com)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:16:01 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] what arduino version do you use?
In-Reply-To: <4AA6D18B.2050003@pjrc.com>
References: <4AA6D18B.2050003@pjrc.com>
Message-ID: <1E7AFA9C-501B-467F-AE96-25448F848F75@mac.com>

I use 16 and 17.


On Sep 8, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Paul Stoffregen wrote:

> I'm trying to decide how far back in Arduino versions I should support
> for the Teensy.  Within the last year, the Arduino team has made 6
> releases, 0012 through 0017.  Multiply by 3 platforms and that's a lot
> of builds!
>
> So I'm curious which ones are being actively used?
>
>
> -Paul
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber


From scott at dixons.mailworks.org  Tue Sep  8 20:36:51 2009
From: scott at dixons.mailworks.org (Scott Dixon)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:36:51 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] what arduino version do you use?
In-Reply-To: <4AA6D18B.2050003@pjrc.com>
References: <4AA6D18B.2050003@pjrc.com>
Message-ID: <C1B665D8-4295-42BD-BFBB-7BAC989D0223@dixons.mailworks.org>

Mostly 16 but moving over to 17.  Haven't used any earlier version for  
quite a while
-scott
On Sep 8, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Paul Stoffregen wrote:

> I'm trying to decide how far back in Arduino versions I should support
> for the Teensy.  Within the last year, the Arduino team has made 6
> releases, 0012 through 0017.  Multiply by 3 platforms and that's a lot
> of builds!
>
> So I'm curious which ones are being actively used?
>
>
> -Paul
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber


From ward at c2.com  Wed Sep  9 01:45:27 2009
From: ward at c2.com (Ward Cunningham)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 22:45:27 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Group Order Etiquette
In-Reply-To: <1252427201.5900.23.camel@voodoo.mersenne.com>
References: <mailman.170.1252425729.158.dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org>
	<1252427201.5900.23.camel@voodoo.mersenne.com>
Message-ID: <5A2D7B56-26A8-4CAE-AB8C-EABC06E02C42@c2.com>

Well, It seems to me we are about to invent social purchasing. What  
would be the ideal interface? Never mind that it might take some  
programming to realize it?

__________________
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503-432-5682





On Sep 8, 2009, at 9:26 AM, dave madden wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 12:02 -0400, Jason Plumb <jason at noisybox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I totally don't feel strongly about this, and I know we've probably
>> had this conversation before, but I personally like seeing in detail
>> what other people are buying.  That generally means short  
>> descriptions
>> in addition to part numbers, quantities, and prices.
>>
>> While the cart link might be convenient, it doesn't encourage others
>> to jump on or push toward group discounts that detailed lists might.
>
> I like seeing what others are buying too, but either it's a moderate
> hassle to create the plain-text-format list for sending to
> Dorkbot-Blabber, or I don't know the trick for doing it.  Plus, I have
> to assume that whoever is placing the orders then has to re-type
> everything, which is probably also a hassle, and could end up getting
> parts wrong.
>
> Perhaps we could create "Dorkbot" users on Mouser & Digikey (at  
> least),
> and share the password here.  Then, anybody who wants to participate  
> in
> a group buy can just add items to a saved cart named after the date  
> the
> order is going out.  Mouser, at least, allows you to put notes on each
> line item, so participants could put their email or dorkbot name  
> there.
>
> Maybe there's a risk of concurrent editing problems, but we could  
> try it
> out at the next meeting to see if there's any hope of it working.
> ALternatively, maybe we could make a shared spreadsheet with Google  
> Docs
> and put the orders there.
>
> In terms of priorities, mine would be to make running the group order
> easy for whoever's doing it, followed by getting a slightly better  
> price
> on something I bought because somebody else bought more of the same
> thing.
>
> d.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
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From ward at c2.com  Wed Sep  9 01:58:34 2009
From: ward at c2.com (Ward Cunningham)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 22:58:34 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] what arduino version do you use?
In-Reply-To: <4AA6D18B.2050003@pjrc.com>
References: <4AA6D18B.2050003@pjrc.com>
Message-ID: <0B62231A-5D09-49F7-866E-1BE886E72C1D@c2.com>

I wouldn't hesitate to update if you told me that I had to,

__________________
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503-432-5682





On Sep 8, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Paul Stoffregen wrote:

> I'm trying to decide how far back in Arduino versions I should support
> for the Teensy.  Within the last year, the Arduino team has made 6
> releases, 0012 through 0017.  Multiply by 3 platforms and that's a lot
> of builds!
>
> So I'm curious which ones are being actively used?
>
>
> -Paul
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From thomas at lockney.net  Wed Sep  9 02:28:21 2009
From: thomas at lockney.net (Thomas Lockney)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 23:28:21 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] what arduino version do you use?
In-Reply-To: <4AA6D18B.2050003@pjrc.com>
References: <4AA6D18B.2050003@pjrc.com>
Message-ID: <7a05808a0909082328j7338beu503c4e217efd8e1a@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Paul Stoffregen<paul at pjrc.com> wrote:
> I'm trying to decide how far back in Arduino versions I should support
> for the Teensy. ?Within the last year, the Arduino team has made 6
> releases, 0012 through 0017. ?Multiply by 3 platforms and that's a lot
> of builds!
>
> So I'm curious which ones are being actively used?

I would say offhand that it appears almost all of the recent versions
are likely being used. Perhaps you should consider setting up an
automated build system so you don't have to do it manually, assuming
you haven't done so already.

From james.neal at gmail.com  Wed Sep  9 15:50:51 2009
From: james.neal at gmail.com (Laen)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 12:50:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Group Order Etiquette
In-Reply-To: <5A2D7B56-26A8-4CAE-AB8C-EABC06E02C42@c2.com>
References: <mailman.170.1252425729.158.dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org> 
	<1252427201.5900.23.camel@voodoo.mersenne.com>
	<5A2D7B56-26A8-4CAE-AB8C-EABC06E02C42@c2.com>
Message-ID: <79fc9d68-8d82-44e7-9094-592a44880953@y28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>

Well, here's what I've been thinking.  Some of this is pie in the sky,
some of it is desired now, and some is already programmed..  I'm
hoping to have something in place by the next order date, but there's
a learning curve I need to overcome.

(Excuse the odd capitalization, it's me trying to think of this in
terms of data models):
* A Site has Members.
* Any Member can initiate a Group Order.
* The Group Order will be limited to certain Distributors, and perhaps
even certain Parts from those Distributors.  It should have a start
date and an end date.
* A Group Order may be limited to members of a Group, where the Group
Owner can set various rules about who is allowed to join.
* Members can join a Group Order and submit requests for Parts.
They'll be provided with an estimate of the total cost including
shipping.
* Members may post comments about the Group Order and the Parts being
ordered.
* Members may submit a special type of request called a "Pledge", to
buy a Quantity of Parts, but only if a Quota is reached (for quantity
discounts ex: I'll buy 5 if we reach a total quantity of 25)
* The Site checks to make sure all Parts are in stock, and tries to
find a better price for the Parts from another Distributor in the
Group Order.  It may suggest alternative Parts.
* When the Group Order ends, a Member with the role of Buyer for this
Group Order can submit the Orders to the Distributors, either using
the Distributor's BOM Import, or relevant APIs.
* The Buyer will then get a purchase summary instructing them on how
to divide the Group Order when it arrives.
* When the Group Order is successfully placed, all Members with Parts
in the Group Order will be messaged with a summary of the order, their
piece of it, and their total (with adjustments for PayPal, Google
Checkout, Cash, etc).

"Social Bits":
* Group Orders have Discussions associated with them.
* Members of a Group Order (or any curious party) can get status
updates on the Group Order by visiting the website, subscribing to the
RSS feed, or asking to be emailed.  Status Updates may include
"Quantity Discount reached", "New Parts submitted", etc.
* Viewing a Group Order gives you the full list of all Parts,
participating Members, and Discussions.  Parts that are in quantity
discounts (or approaching discounts) are highlighted.

I think this could appeal to a wider audience than just parts orders
as well.  Pretty much anything that could qualify for quantity/
shipping discounts could be set up through this kind of website.

-Laen

On Sep 8, 10:45?pm, Ward Cunningham <w... at c2.com> wrote:
> Well, It seems to me we are about to invent social purchasing. What ?
> would be the ideal interface? Never mind that it might take some ?
> programming to realize it?
>
> __________________
> Ward Cunningham
> 503-432-5682
>
> On Sep 8, 2009, at 9:26 AM, dave madden wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 12:02 -0400, Jason Plumb <ja... at noisybox.net>
> > wrote:
>
> >> I totally don't feel strongly about this, and I know we've probably
> >> had this conversation before, but I personally like seeing in detail
> >> what other people are buying. ?That generally means short ?
> >> descriptions
> >> in addition to part numbers, quantities, and prices.
>
> >> While the cart link might be convenient, it doesn't encourage others
> >> to jump on or push toward group discounts that detailed lists might.
>
> > I like seeing what others are buying too, but either it's a moderate
> > hassle to create the plain-text-format list for sending to
> > Dorkbot-Blabber, or I don't know the trick for doing it. ?Plus, I have
> > to assume that whoever is placing the orders then has to re-type
> > everything, which is probably also a hassle, and could end up getting
> > parts wrong.
>
> > Perhaps we could create "Dorkbot" users on Mouser & Digikey (at ?
> > least),
> > and share the password here. ?Then, anybody who wants to participate ?
> > in
> > a group buy can just add items to a saved cart named after the date ?
> > the
> > order is going out. ?Mouser, at least, allows you to put notes on each
> > line item, so participants could put their email or dorkbot name ?
> > there.
>
> > Maybe there's a risk of concurrent editing problems, but we could ?
> > try it
> > out at the next meeting to see if there's any hope of it working.
> > ALternatively, maybe we could make a shared spreadsheet with Google ?
> > Docs
> > and put the orders there.
>
> > In terms of priorities, mine would be to make running the group order
> > easy for whoever's doing it, followed by getting a slightly better ?
> > price
> > on something I bought because somebody else bought more of the same
> > thing.
>
> > d.
>
> > _______________________________________________
> > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> > dorkbotpdx-blab... at dorkbot.org
> >http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blab... at dorkbot.orghttp://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber

From james.neal at gmail.com  Wed Sep  9 16:39:13 2009
From: james.neal at gmail.com (Laen)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:39:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Group Order Etiquette
In-Reply-To: <1252427201.5900.23.camel@voodoo.mersenne.com>
References: <mailman.170.1252425729.158.dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org> 
	<1252427201.5900.23.camel@voodoo.mersenne.com>
Message-ID: <f311f80e-3d88-4119-9740-bebb83e60b27@x25g2000prf.googlegroups.com>



On Sep 8, 9:26?am, dave madden <dork... at mersenne.com> wrote:
> I like seeing what others are buying too, but either it's a moderate
> hassle to create the plain-text-format list for sending to
> Dorkbot-Blabber, or I don't know the trick for doing it. ?Plus, I have
> to assume that whoever is placing the orders then has to re-type
> everything, which is probably also a hassle, and could end up getting
> parts wrong.

Yeah, that's been my fear.  Either missing an order request (like I
almost did this time with an order that came in via email), or mis-
entering it and getting too many/the wrong part.  It happened last
time that someone submitted an item, changed their mind and replaced
it with another item, and I forgot to take out the first one.  It was
only a $0.50 error, but it didn't need to happen.

> Maybe there's a risk of concurrent editing problems, but we could try it
> out at the next meeting to see if there's any hope of it working.
> ALternatively, maybe we could make a shared spreadsheet with Google Docs
> and put the orders there.

Yeah, Google Docs is actually most of the way there.  You can make a
"Form" interface to a spreadsheet, and people just answer the
questions to submit parts orders, but it takes away some of the social
aspects that I like.  I definitely don't want people messing with the
spreadsheet directly, since a wrong click can mean accidentally
messing with someone else's order.

> In terms of priorities, mine would be to make running the group order
> easy for whoever's doing it, followed by getting a slightly better price
> on something I bought because somebody else bought more of the same
> thing.

I really want more of the "Group Discount" bits.  It means more work
for the Buyer, but makes it a better value all around.   Splitting
shipping is great, but really shipping was just $10 for both the
Mouser and Digikey orders combined.

-James

From jason at noisybox.net  Wed Sep  9 17:03:12 2009
From: jason at noisybox.net (Jason Plumb)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:03:12 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Group Order Etiquette
In-Reply-To: <f311f80e-3d88-4119-9740-bebb83e60b27@x25g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
References: <mailman.170.1252425729.158.dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org>
	<1252427201.5900.23.camel@voodoo.mersenne.com>
	<f311f80e-3d88-4119-9740-bebb83e60b27@x25g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <4AA81810.3040309@noisybox.net>

Laen wrote:
> I really want more of the "Group Discount" bits.  It means more work
> for the Buyer, but makes it a better value all around.   Splitting
> shipping is great, but really shipping was just $10 for both the
> Mouser and Digikey orders combined.

Valid point -- but if 10 or so people were to have ordered separately 
I'm certain their combined shipping costs would have been significantly 
more than $10.  Plus, there's an important reduction in wasteful 
shipping product (box, bubble wrap, etc...which the parts suppliers are 
notorious for overusing).

Laen: Thanks for all your hard work on this front!!

-jason

From mykle at mykle.com  Wed Sep  9 18:01:34 2009
From: mykle at mykle.com (Mykle Hansen)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:01:34 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] does anybody have a micropower radio rig?
Message-ID: <BD0E8464-1471-4FDD-B254-8CA6B5BA6C78@mykle.com>

hi all,

a friend and i are trying to communicate with the commuters
of Vancouver, WA about the Columbia River Crossing Project (which
we're kind of opposed to, in its current form) and have the
goofy idea to set up a talk-radio station over some congested
portions of I-5 during rush hour, for just a week or so.

i wonder, does anybody here have a lead on a low-power radio
transmitter that can be tuned to some unused portion of the AM
or FM bands, and a suitable antenna?

(some more critique of the CRC is here, in case you're curious:

    http://smarterbridge.org

... and i'm happy to talk about it in person or e-mail, but
let's not flood this list with off-topic debate, pleedy-please.)

-m-
---
HELP!  A Bear is Eating Me!
http://helpabeariseatingme.com


From skinny at knowhere.net  Wed Sep  9 18:07:08 2009
From: skinny at knowhere.net (Brian Richardson)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:07:08 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] speakers -- a gift from the crap fairy.
In-Reply-To: <DD6BB19B-754E-4089-BCDE-94788F513046@mykle.com>
References: <8e6971a90909032231g45af40ddj6281758dd4d12346@mail.gmail.com>
	<E0BED656-B430-44D8-9541-C6EFDE107CA2@mykle.com>
	<7164e3620909031641w2d1a097do3dca8b3073aa5b56@mail.gmail.com>
	<200909040628.n846SPVc012236@chandra.cs.pdx.edu>
	<DD6BB19B-754E-4089-BCDE-94788F513046@mykle.com>
Message-ID: <7164e3620909091507m69c93430ka73fc153dbad4d8c@mail.gmail.com>

If they're not all taken up by the next meeting, I can grab them
Monday morning and bring them to Backspace for people to grab.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Mykle Hansen<mykle at mykle.com> wrote:
> On Sep 3, 2009, at 11:28 PMThursday, Barton C Massey wrote:
>
>> I'll take all of them you can spare. ?We can keep them out
>> at OpenTechSpace to give to people doing projects, and I've
>> been wondering lately about doing some beam-forming with
>> these.
>>
>> How do I get them from you?
>
> On Sep 3, 2009, at 10:31 PMThursday, dan p wrote:
>
>> I'm up for some. Always on the hunt for multiples...
>
>
> they are on my front steps, at 5536 NE 27th Ave. ?First
> come, first served. ?Maybe you two could each take half?
>
> -m-
>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>

From dausmus at gmail.com  Wed Sep  9 18:14:07 2009
From: dausmus at gmail.com (Doug Ausmus)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:14:07 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] does anybody have a micropower radio rig?
In-Reply-To: <BD0E8464-1471-4FDD-B254-8CA6B5BA6C78@mykle.com>
References: <BD0E8464-1471-4FDD-B254-8CA6B5BA6C78@mykle.com>
Message-ID: <307640010909091514v14b319y226b4cc8f1572857@mail.gmail.com>

Hi -m-

I have used Ramsey for LPFM kit for a traffic control need in years
past and have been reasonably happy with them and their prices:
http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/hk/default.asp?page=amfm

Here is a link with misc info on LPFM:
http://www.lpfm.com/

-Doug

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Mykle Hansen <mykle at mykle.com> wrote:
> hi all,
>
> a friend and i are trying to communicate with the commuters
> of Vancouver, WA about the Columbia River Crossing Project (which
> we're kind of opposed to, in its current form) and have the
> goofy idea to set up a talk-radio station over some congested
> portions of I-5 during rush hour, for just a week or so.
>
> i wonder, does anybody here have a lead on a low-power radio
> transmitter that can be tuned to some unused portion of the AM
> or FM bands, and a suitable antenna?
>
> (some more critique of the CRC is here, in case you're curious:
>
> ? ?http://smarterbridge.org
>
> ... and i'm happy to talk about it in person or e-mail, but
> let's not flood this list with off-topic debate, pleedy-please.)
>
> -m-
> ---
> HELP! ?A Bear is Eating Me!
> http://helpabeariseatingme.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>

From mykle at mykle.com  Wed Sep  9 22:52:27 2009
From: mykle at mykle.com (Mykle Hansen)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 19:52:27 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] speakers -- a gift from the crap fairy.
In-Reply-To: <7164e3620909091507m69c93430ka73fc153dbad4d8c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8e6971a90909032231g45af40ddj6281758dd4d12346@mail.gmail.com>
	<E0BED656-B430-44D8-9541-C6EFDE107CA2@mykle.com>
	<7164e3620909031641w2d1a097do3dca8b3073aa5b56@mail.gmail.com>
	<200909040628.n846SPVc012236@chandra.cs.pdx.edu>
	<DD6BB19B-754E-4089-BCDE-94788F513046@mykle.com>
	<7164e3620909091507m69c93430ka73fc153dbad4d8c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4EA08060-611A-4DA4-BDC0-FA1BB04D9E33@mykle.com>

i apologize to anybody who tried to pick them up over
the weekend -- my wife thought they needed to be brought
indoors before we left.  they're there now, tho.

generally speaking, i don't make it to the meeting very
often 'cause it conflicts with band practice.  but brian,
if you could do that i'd be much obliged.

-m-

On Sep 9, 2009, at 3:07 PMWednesday, Brian Richardson wrote:

> If they're not all taken up by the next meeting, I can grab them
> Monday morning and bring them to Backspace for people to grab.
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Mykle Hansen<mykle at mykle.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 3, 2009, at 11:28 PMThursday, Barton C Massey wrote:
>>
>>> I'll take all of them you can spare.  We can keep them out
>>> at OpenTechSpace to give to people doing projects, and I've
>>> been wondering lately about doing some beam-forming with
>>> these.
>>>
>>> How do I get them from you?
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2009, at 10:31 PMThursday, dan p wrote:
>>
>>> I'm up for some. Always on the hunt for multiples...
>>
>>
>> they are on my front steps, at 5536 NE 27th Ave.  First
>> come, first served.  Maybe you two could each take half?
>>
>> -m-
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber

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http://helpabeariseatingme.com


From jboone at earfeast.com  Thu Sep 10 14:11:41 2009
From: jboone at earfeast.com (Jared Boone)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:11:41 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Synthesizer Affinity Day
Message-ID: <55C9A790-2A2A-4902-BFF3-E7C06B50A1EE@earfeast.com>

A friend mentioned the upcoming Synthesizer Affinity Day, which I  
figure some of you Dorks would be interested in.

	Tuesday September 15th, 5pm
	Airplay Cafe
	701 E Burnside
	Portland, OR

The PDF flier (which I will spare the list) says:

> If you are interested in sound synthesis, synthesizers, sam- plers,  
> drum machines, modular synthesizers, circuit bent, FMed up knob  
> tweakery, then this is the event for you!
>
> The concept for a synthesizer day, where electronic musi- cians,  
> synthesizer enthusiasts and people who would like to get in to the  
> electro scene, could meet together, discuss and play synthesizers.
>
> This event is designed to instruct, inform, teach, and play, in and  
> around synths.
>
> So If you feel that you are one of those people who would like to  
> know more about synthesizers and samplers in gen- eral or get more  
> into specifics, or have a massive synthe- sizer collection and  
> really want to share, this is the event for you!

> Who is this event for?
>
> This event is for anyone who is interested in synthesizers,  
> samplers, audio design, stomp boxes, modular synthesizers and that  
> dreaded four letter word; MIDI.
>
> What is required to attend?
>
> Absolutely nothing except for yourself and your enthusiasm for synths.
>
> If you are a synthesizer owner;
>
> Please e-mail me with a list of synthesizers that you are willing to  
> bring. The only reason I want this information is so that we don?t  
> end up with duplicates of the same synths. I would be bumped out if  
> I walked in and there were five Microkorgs sitting on the tables :o
>
> We will also need sound amplification de- vices. Although there is a  
> PA system at airplay, we can only put one synth through the PA at a  
> time. If you have keyboard amps, computer speakers, or another form  
> of outputting the sound of your synthesizer please bring it.

More info at:

	http://www.vintagesynth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=50794

Or e-mail:

	Mr_Knesh at yahoo.com

It seems they'll have mostly commercially-built equipment. I'm sure  
they'd be very appreciative and interested in the custom hardware we  
Dorks wield.

	- Jared


From jason at noisybox.net  Fri Sep 11 02:27:22 2009
From: jason at noisybox.net (Jason Plumb)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:27:22 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Suzo Happ group order.
Message-ID: <4AA9EDCA.9060308@noisybox.net>

I'm going to be buying a small number of parts from Happ 
(http://www.happcontrols.com/) this week and wanted to open this up to 
the group to share shipping for those interested.

Happ is a very popular vendor of quality arcade machine parts, including 
joysticks, buttons, and a TON of other great amazing stuff.

If you want a reliable, durable, poundable buttons, these things are 
great (what I'm mostly getting):
http://www.happcontrols.com/pushbuttons/5896xxl.htm

Tons of cool joysticks for your mame cab too: :)
http://www.happcontrols.com/joysticks/joysticks_amusement.htm

Because I'm not organized enough, this is orthogonal to the usual group 
order...but it will go out Monday and I should get it next week.  Lemme 
know....

-jason
http://noisybox.net

From green.sean at gmail.com  Fri Sep 11 17:48:49 2009
From: green.sean at gmail.com (Sean Green)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:48:49 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Spare ATmega644P anyone?
Message-ID: <68c84b7b0909111448w5f7b7210qd247c623e928e2d5@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone have a spare ATmega644P-20PU? I will pay for it or replace it in
the next group order. Let me know.
Thanks,
Sean
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From ddelmardavis at gmail.com  Fri Sep 11 18:09:23 2009
From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Delmar Davis)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:09:23 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Spare ATmega644P anyone?
In-Reply-To: <68c84b7b0909111448w5f7b7210qd247c623e928e2d5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <68c84b7b0909111448w5f7b7210qd247c623e928e2d5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4325DA8D-5F59-4CC1-999E-0502A0146ECC@gmail.com>

I have several how many do you need?

On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Sean Green wrote:

> Does anyone have a spare ATmega644P-20PU? I will pay for it or  
> replace it in the next group order. Let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
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From jason at noisybox.net  Sun Sep 13 14:16:23 2009
From: jason at noisybox.net (Jason Plumb)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:16:23 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Meeting on Monday, 9/14 7pm @ Backspace
Message-ID: <4AAD36F7.6060809@noisybox.net>

  ______   _____   ______ _     _ ______   _____  _______
  |     \ |     | |_____/ |____/  |_____] |     |    |
  |_____/ |_____| |    \_ |    \_ |_____] |_____|    | 

             _____  ______  _     _
            |_____] |     \  \___/
            |       |_____/ _/   \_

           +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+
           |m| |e| |e| |t| |i| |n| |g|
           +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+

Hey, tomorrow is an every-other-Monday again!  You know what that 
means...it means it's time to join DorkbotPDX at Backspace for our 
biweekly casual hangout nite.

+++++++ Monday, September 14th
+++++++ Backspace (backspace.bz) (5th and Couch)
+++++++ Seven (7) pm

We'll have tables and power and a desire to do strange things with 
electricity.  Backspace has great food, hot coffee, cold beer and solid 
WiFi.  Feel free to bring a project to hack on or just stop by to 
synthesize your inner dork.

-jason
http://noisybox.net

From jason at noisybox.net  Sun Sep 13 14:26:03 2009
From: jason at noisybox.net (Jason Plumb)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:26:03 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] DorkbotPDX shirts still available.
Message-ID: <4AAD393B.5020301@noisybox.net>

I want to remind people that we still have shirts available.  Here's 
what's still in stock:

Design 2 (one-sided salmon+white on charcoal):
(like this: http://noisybox.net/dorkbot/images/png/shirt2008_05.png)
XL - 2
L  - 1
M  - 3
S  - 2

Design 1( two-sided white on black):
(like this: http://noisybox.net/dorkbot/images/png/dorkbot_led_black.png)
S - 2
M - 3

They're a steal at just $12!

It's hard for me to bring them all to every meeting, so if you want one 
please let me know in advance and I'll bring it for you.

Oh yeah, and there are 3 people who have paid me for a shirt who haven't 
claimed it yet (it's been a LONG time people!).  If anybody can help me 
get this claimed I'd appreciate it.

L - jason w
M - walter f
S - vladmaster

Thanks...see ya soon!

-jason
http://noisybox.net

From skinny at knowhere.net  Mon Sep 14 12:49:35 2009
From: skinny at knowhere.net (Brian Richardson)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:49:35 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] speakers -- a gift from the crap fairy.
In-Reply-To: <4EA08060-611A-4DA4-BDC0-FA1BB04D9E33@mykle.com>
References: <8e6971a90909032231g45af40ddj6281758dd4d12346@mail.gmail.com>
	<E0BED656-B430-44D8-9541-C6EFDE107CA2@mykle.com>
	<7164e3620909031641w2d1a097do3dca8b3073aa5b56@mail.gmail.com>
	<200909040628.n846SPVc012236@chandra.cs.pdx.edu>
	<DD6BB19B-754E-4089-BCDE-94788F513046@mykle.com>
	<7164e3620909091507m69c93430ka73fc153dbad4d8c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4EA08060-611A-4DA4-BDC0-FA1BB04D9E33@mykle.com>
Message-ID: <7164e3620909140949n19c4cd46p1fe323c3febb9246@mail.gmail.com>

Alright everyone, I grabbed them and they'll be out on a table at the
meeting tonight.  Imagine the things you could do with these babies:

Crackleboxes:  http://noisybox.net/weblog/2008/09/more_cracklebox_boards
Atari Punk Console:  http://www.getlofi.com/?p=518
Build a small amp and blow em up:
http://www.techlib.com/electronics/audioamps.html#LM386

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Mykle Hansen <mykle at mykle.com> wrote:
> i apologize to anybody who tried to pick them up over
> the weekend -- my wife thought they needed to be brought
> indoors before we left. ?they're there now, tho.
>
> generally speaking, i don't make it to the meeting very
> often 'cause it conflicts with band practice. ?but brian,
> if you could do that i'd be much obliged.
>
> -m-
>
> On Sep 9, 2009, at 3:07 PMWednesday, Brian Richardson wrote:
>
>> If they're not all taken up by the next meeting, I can grab them
>> Monday morning and bring them to Backspace for people to grab.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Mykle Hansen<mykle at mykle.com> wrote:
>>> On Sep 3, 2009, at 11:28 PMThursday, Barton C Massey wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll take all of them you can spare. ?We can keep them out
>>>> at OpenTechSpace to give to people doing projects, and I've
>>>> been wondering lately about doing some beam-forming with
>>>> these.
>>>>
>>>> How do I get them from you?
>>>
>>> On Sep 3, 2009, at 10:31 PMThursday, dan p wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm up for some. Always on the hunt for multiples...
>>>
>>>
>>> they are on my front steps, at 5536 NE 27th Ave. ?First
>>> come, first served. ?Maybe you two could each take half?
>>>
>>> -m-
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
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>
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> http://helpabeariseatingme.com
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From jason at noisybox.net  Mon Sep 14 13:22:09 2009
From: jason at noisybox.net (Jason Plumb)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:22:09 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] speakers -- a gift from the crap fairy.
In-Reply-To: <7164e3620909140949n19c4cd46p1fe323c3febb9246@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8e6971a90909032231g45af40ddj6281758dd4d12346@mail.gmail.com>	<E0BED656-B430-44D8-9541-C6EFDE107CA2@mykle.com>	<7164e3620909031641w2d1a097do3dca8b3073aa5b56@mail.gmail.com>	<200909040628.n846SPVc012236@chandra.cs.pdx.edu>	<DD6BB19B-754E-4089-BCDE-94788F513046@mykle.com>	<7164e3620909091507m69c93430ka73fc153dbad4d8c@mail.gmail.com>	<4EA08060-611A-4DA4-BDC0-FA1BB04D9E33@mykle.com>
	<7164e3620909140949n19c4cd46p1fe323c3febb9246@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AAE7BC1.5000804@noisybox.net>

Brian Richardson wrote:
> Crackleboxes:  http://noisybox.net/weblog/2008/09/more_cracklebox_boards
> Atari Punk Console:  http://www.getlofi.com/?p=518

What, you couldn't link me twice in the same email?  ;)
http://noisybox.net/electronics/apc/

-jason

From skinny at knowhere.net  Mon Sep 14 13:45:55 2009
From: skinny at knowhere.net (Brian Richardson)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:45:55 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] speakers -- a gift from the crap fairy.
In-Reply-To: <4AAE7BC1.5000804@noisybox.net>
References: <8e6971a90909032231g45af40ddj6281758dd4d12346@mail.gmail.com>
	<E0BED656-B430-44D8-9541-C6EFDE107CA2@mykle.com>
	<7164e3620909031641w2d1a097do3dca8b3073aa5b56@mail.gmail.com>
	<200909040628.n846SPVc012236@chandra.cs.pdx.edu>
	<DD6BB19B-754E-4089-BCDE-94788F513046@mykle.com>
	<7164e3620909091507m69c93430ka73fc153dbad4d8c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4EA08060-611A-4DA4-BDC0-FA1BB04D9E33@mykle.com>
	<7164e3620909140949n19c4cd46p1fe323c3febb9246@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AAE7BC1.5000804@noisybox.net>
Message-ID: <7164e3620909141045p165d7556j63ee1cee86829cb3@mail.gmail.com>

hahaha..  I didn't see that stuff..  check out the better cracklebox link also:

http://noisybox.net/electronics/cracklebox/

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Jason Plumb <jason at noisybox.net> wrote:
> Brian Richardson wrote:
>> Crackleboxes: ?http://noisybox.net/weblog/2008/09/more_cracklebox_boards
>> Atari Punk Console: ?http://www.getlofi.com/?p=518
>
> What, you couldn't link me twice in the same email? ?;)
> http://noisybox.net/electronics/apc/
>
> -jason
> _______________________________________________
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> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>

From greg at grunest.com  Mon Sep 14 19:54:19 2009
From: greg at grunest.com (Greg Grunest)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:54:19 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap.  an xray machine?
In-Reply-To: <4AAE7BC1.5000804@noisybox.net>
References: <8e6971a90909032231g45af40ddj6281758dd4d12346@mail.gmail.com>	<E0BED656-B430-44D8-9541-C6EFDE107CA2@mykle.com>	<7164e3620909031641w2d1a097do3dca8b3073aa5b56@mail.gmail.com>	<200909040628.n846SPVc012236@chandra.cs.pdx.edu>	<DD6BB19B-754E-4089-BCDE-94788F513046@mykle.com>	<7164e3620909091507m69c93430ka73fc153dbad4d8c@mail.gmail.com>	<4EA08060-611A-4DA4-BDC0-FA1BB04D9E33@mykle.com>	<7164e3620909140949n19c4cd46p1fe323c3febb9246@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AAE7BC1.5000804@noisybox.net>
Message-ID: <00bd01ca3596$ad5b2a80$08117f80$@com>

Some of you may know I got married earlier this year.

That will have more meaning in a moment...



It was a good week for crap collecting at my house.  I stopped by a dental
office near my house and they were literally walking out the door heading to
the dumpster with what the dentist described as "The oldest x-ray machine
still licensed in the state of Oregon".  Being the geek I am I wowed over it
and the dentist said I should take it that it would make a cool "display".
Of course, I'm thinking "do-it-yourself x-rays". 

The unit consists of the control panel which truly has some awesome "mad
scientist" controls and gauges on it and the control head.  The control head
weighs about 50 lbs and I'm convinced there is some awesome stuff inside it
but I'll probably never know about it.

The problem comes in that two days later I was given a broken (yeah right!)
quad core server with 8 hot-swappable bays, triple redundant power supplies,
etc... Good news is that I pulled one of the hot-swap power supplies and it
starts right up.

The server now sits next to the PDP-11/83 and it's been "suggested" that I
find a home for the x-ray machine.  I was unaware of it but a policy change
occurred in my house that limits the amount of crap I'm allowed to bring
home to (1) giant, loud, heavy thing per week.  I thought about stashing the
x-ray machine around the corner until next week but alas, I was told that
would be a direct violation of policy.

Anyone want an x-ray machine?  If anyone is at all interested I'll haul it
to the meeting tonight.  Let me know.

- Greg



From solweil at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 20:05:13 2009
From: solweil at gmail.com (Sol Weil)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:05:13 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
In-Reply-To: <00bd01ca3596$ad5b2a80$08117f80$@com>
References: <8e6971a90909032231g45af40ddj6281758dd4d12346@mail.gmail.com>
	<E0BED656-B430-44D8-9541-C6EFDE107CA2@mykle.com>
	<7164e3620909031641w2d1a097do3dca8b3073aa5b56@mail.gmail.com>
	<200909040628.n846SPVc012236@chandra.cs.pdx.edu>
	<DD6BB19B-754E-4089-BCDE-94788F513046@mykle.com>
	<7164e3620909091507m69c93430ka73fc153dbad4d8c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4EA08060-611A-4DA4-BDC0-FA1BB04D9E33@mykle.com>
	<7164e3620909140949n19c4cd46p1fe323c3febb9246@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AAE7BC1.5000804@noisybox.net> <00bd01ca3596$ad5b2a80$08117f80$@com>
Message-ID: <bc77f6b20909141705o41bee89fx8cac5a99ed38beef@mail.gmail.com>

So tempted, wish I had the space!

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com> wrote:
> Some of you may know I got married earlier this year.
>
> That will have more meaning in a moment...
>
>
>
> It was a good week for crap collecting at my house. ?I stopped by a dental
> office near my house and they were literally walking out the door heading to
> the dumpster with what the dentist described as "The oldest x-ray machine
> still licensed in the state of Oregon". ?Being the geek I am I wowed over it
> and the dentist said I should take it that it would make a cool "display".
> Of course, I'm thinking "do-it-yourself x-rays".
>
> The unit consists of the control panel which truly has some awesome "mad
> scientist" controls and gauges on it and the control head. ?The control head
> weighs about 50 lbs and I'm convinced there is some awesome stuff inside it
> but I'll probably never know about it.
>
> The problem comes in that two days later I was given a broken (yeah right!)
> quad core server with 8 hot-swappable bays, triple redundant power supplies,
> etc... Good news is that I pulled one of the hot-swap power supplies and it
> starts right up.
>
> The server now sits next to the PDP-11/83 and it's been "suggested" that I
> find a home for the x-ray machine. ?I was unaware of it but a policy change
> occurred in my house that limits the amount of crap I'm allowed to bring
> home to (1) giant, loud, heavy thing per week. ?I thought about stashing the
> x-ray machine around the corner until next week but alas, I was told that
> would be a direct violation of policy.
>
> Anyone want an x-ray machine? ?If anyone is at all interested I'll haul it
> to the meeting tonight. ?Let me know.
>
> - Greg
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>

From greg at grunest.com  Mon Sep 14 20:12:24 2009
From: greg at grunest.com (Greg Grunest)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:12:24 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
In-Reply-To: <bc77f6b20909141705o41bee89fx8cac5a99ed38beef@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8e6971a90909032231g45af40ddj6281758dd4d12346@mail.gmail.com>	<E0BED656-B430-44D8-9541-C6EFDE107CA2@mykle.com>	<7164e3620909031641w2d1a097do3dca8b3073aa5b56@mail.gmail.com>	<200909040628.n846SPVc012236@chandra.cs.pdx.edu>	<DD6BB19B-754E-4089-BCDE-94788F513046@mykle.com>	<7164e3620909091507m69c93430ka73fc153dbad4d8c@mail.gmail.com>	<4EA08060-611A-4DA4-BDC0-FA1BB04D9E33@mykle.com>	<7164e3620909140949n19c4cd46p1fe323c3febb9246@mail.gmail.com>	<4AAE7BC1.5000804@noisybox.net>
	<00bd01ca3596$ad5b2a80$08117f80$@com>
	<bc77f6b20909141705o41bee89fx8cac5a99ed38beef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00be01ca3599$3440a280$9cc1e780$@com>

It's small..... um... it's a mini x-ray machine?

No, not really, I can't back that up.

But you bring up a good point.

The control panel is 1' x 1' x 5' tall
The head is about 1' x 1' x 1'

-----Original Message-----
From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
[mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of Sol Weil
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:05 PM
To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)
Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?

So tempted, wish I had the space!

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com> wrote:
> Some of you may know I got married earlier this year.
>
> That will have more meaning in a moment...
>
>
>
> It was a good week for crap collecting at my house. ?I stopped by a dental
> office near my house and they were literally walking out the door heading
to
> the dumpster with what the dentist described as "The oldest x-ray machine
> still licensed in the state of Oregon". ?Being the geek I am I wowed over
it
> and the dentist said I should take it that it would make a cool "display".
> Of course, I'm thinking "do-it-yourself x-rays".
>
> The unit consists of the control panel which truly has some awesome "mad
> scientist" controls and gauges on it and the control head. ?The control
head
> weighs about 50 lbs and I'm convinced there is some awesome stuff inside
it
> but I'll probably never know about it.
>
> The problem comes in that two days later I was given a broken (yeah
right!)
> quad core server with 8 hot-swappable bays, triple redundant power
supplies,
> etc... Good news is that I pulled one of the hot-swap power supplies and
it
> starts right up.
>
> The server now sits next to the PDP-11/83 and it's been "suggested" that I
> find a home for the x-ray machine. ?I was unaware of it but a policy
change
> occurred in my house that limits the amount of crap I'm allowed to bring
> home to (1) giant, loud, heavy thing per week. ?I thought about stashing
the
> x-ray machine around the corner until next week but alas, I was told that
> would be a direct violation of policy.
>
> Anyone want an x-ray machine? ?If anyone is at all interested I'll haul it
> to the meeting tonight. ?Let me know.
>
> - Greg
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>
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From montyg at bittybot.com  Mon Sep 14 20:12:54 2009
From: montyg at bittybot.com (montyg at bittybot.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:12:54 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap.  an xray machine?
In-Reply-To: <00bd01ca3596$ad5b2a80$08117f80$@com>
References: <8e6971a90909032231g45af40ddj6281758dd4d12346@mail.gmail.com>
	<E0BED656-B430-44D8-9541-C6EFDE107CA2@mykle.com>
	<7164e3620909031641w2d1a097do3dca8b3073aa5b56@mail.gmail.com>
	<200909040628.n846SPVc012236@chandra.cs.pdx.edu>
	<DD6BB19B-754E-4089-BCDE-94788F513046@mykle.com>
	<7164e3620909091507m69c93430ka73fc153dbad4d8c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4EA08060-611A-4DA4-BDC0-FA1BB04D9E33@mykle.com>
	<7164e3620909140949n19c4cd46p1fe323c3febb9246@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AAE7BC1.5000804@noisybox.net> <00bd01ca3596$ad5b2a80$08117f80$@com>
Message-ID: <20090914171254.77t74oaizosok8ow@secure28.inmotionhosting.com>

How giant are we talking?
Will it fit in the back of a Subaru Outback?

Monty

Quoting Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com>:

> Some of you may know I got married earlier this year.
>
> That will have more meaning in a moment...
>
>
>
> It was a good week for crap collecting at my house.  I stopped by a dental
> office near my house and they were literally walking out the door heading to
> the dumpster with what the dentist described as "The oldest x-ray machine
> still licensed in the state of Oregon".  Being the geek I am I wowed over it
> and the dentist said I should take it that it would make a cool "display".
> Of course, I'm thinking "do-it-yourself x-rays".
>
> The unit consists of the control panel which truly has some awesome "mad
> scientist" controls and gauges on it and the control head.  The control head
> weighs about 50 lbs and I'm convinced there is some awesome stuff inside it
> but I'll probably never know about it.
>
> The problem comes in that two days later I was given a broken (yeah right!)
> quad core server with 8 hot-swappable bays, triple redundant power supplies,
> etc... Good news is that I pulled one of the hot-swap power supplies and it
> starts right up.
>
> The server now sits next to the PDP-11/83 and it's been "suggested" that I
> find a home for the x-ray machine.  I was unaware of it but a policy change
> occurred in my house that limits the amount of crap I'm allowed to bring
> home to (1) giant, loud, heavy thing per week.  I thought about stashing the
> x-ray machine around the corner until next week but alas, I was told that
> would be a direct violation of policy.
>
> Anyone want an x-ray machine?  If anyone is at all interested I'll haul it
> to the meeting tonight.  Let me know.
>
> - Greg
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>




From greg at grunest.com  Mon Sep 14 20:17:07 2009
From: greg at grunest.com (Greg Grunest)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:17:07 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap.  an xray machine?
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I brought it home in my camaro.

-----Original Message-----
From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
[mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of
montyg at bittybot.com
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:13 PM
To: dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?

How giant are we talking?
Will it fit in the back of a Subaru Outback?

Monty

Quoting Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com>:

> Some of you may know I got married earlier this year.
>
> That will have more meaning in a moment...
>
>
>
> It was a good week for crap collecting at my house.  I stopped by a dental
> office near my house and they were literally walking out the door heading
to
> the dumpster with what the dentist described as "The oldest x-ray machine
> still licensed in the state of Oregon".  Being the geek I am I wowed over
it
> and the dentist said I should take it that it would make a cool "display".
> Of course, I'm thinking "do-it-yourself x-rays".
>
> The unit consists of the control panel which truly has some awesome "mad
> scientist" controls and gauges on it and the control head.  The control
head
> weighs about 50 lbs and I'm convinced there is some awesome stuff inside
it
> but I'll probably never know about it.
>
> The problem comes in that two days later I was given a broken (yeah
right!)
> quad core server with 8 hot-swappable bays, triple redundant power
supplies,
> etc... Good news is that I pulled one of the hot-swap power supplies and
it
> starts right up.
>
> The server now sits next to the PDP-11/83 and it's been "suggested" that I
> find a home for the x-ray machine.  I was unaware of it but a policy
change
> occurred in my house that limits the amount of crap I'm allowed to bring
> home to (1) giant, loud, heavy thing per week.  I thought about stashing
the
> x-ray machine around the corner until next week but alas, I was told that
> would be a direct violation of policy.
>
> Anyone want an x-ray machine?  If anyone is at all interested I'll haul it
> to the meeting tonight.  Let me know.
>
> - Greg
>
>
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From skinny at knowhere.net  Mon Sep 14 20:18:32 2009
From: skinny at knowhere.net (Brian Richardson)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:18:32 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
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Was it a bitchin' camaro?


(Sorry.. couldn't resist)

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com> wrote:
> I brought it home in my camaro.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
> [mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of
> montyg at bittybot.com
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:13 PM
> To: dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
>
> How giant are we talking?
> Will it fit in the back of a Subaru Outback?
>
> Monty
>
> Quoting Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com>:
>
>> Some of you may know I got married earlier this year.
>>
>> That will have more meaning in a moment...
>>
>>
>>
>> It was a good week for crap collecting at my house. ?I stopped by a dental
>> office near my house and they were literally walking out the door heading
> to
>> the dumpster with what the dentist described as "The oldest x-ray machine
>> still licensed in the state of Oregon". ?Being the geek I am I wowed over
> it
>> and the dentist said I should take it that it would make a cool "display".
>> Of course, I'm thinking "do-it-yourself x-rays".
>>
>> The unit consists of the control panel which truly has some awesome "mad
>> scientist" controls and gauges on it and the control head. ?The control
> head
>> weighs about 50 lbs and I'm convinced there is some awesome stuff inside
> it
>> but I'll probably never know about it.
>>
>> The problem comes in that two days later I was given a broken (yeah
> right!)
>> quad core server with 8 hot-swappable bays, triple redundant power
> supplies,
>> etc... Good news is that I pulled one of the hot-swap power supplies and
> it
>> starts right up.
>>
>> The server now sits next to the PDP-11/83 and it's been "suggested" that I
>> find a home for the x-ray machine. ?I was unaware of it but a policy
> change
>> occurred in my house that limits the amount of crap I'm allowed to bring
>> home to (1) giant, loud, heavy thing per week. ?I thought about stashing
> the
>> x-ray machine around the corner until next week but alas, I was told that
>> would be a direct violation of policy.
>>
>> Anyone want an x-ray machine? ?If anyone is at all interested I'll haul it
>> to the meeting tonight. ?Let me know.
>>
>> - Greg
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>>
>
>
>
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From greg at grunest.com  Mon Sep 14 20:21:43 2009
From: greg at grunest.com (Greg Grunest)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:21:43 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap.  an xray machine?
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I need to also mention it DOES NOT WORK.  It did work up until Tuesday and
it should work again but it's missing the cable linkage between the control
unit and the head.  There are only four wires in the cable but the cable is
still installed in the Dentist's office wall.  (He was reluctant to remove
the wall so I could have the cable.)

DISCLAIMER!!!

Also, I'm not sure what the laws are but I'm "giving away" the "parts" of an
x-ray machine.  What you do with it to yourself, your ability to bear
children in the future or to neighborhood squirrels is entirely all on you.

-----Original Message-----
From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
[mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of
montyg at bittybot.com
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:13 PM
To: dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?

How giant are we talking?
Will it fit in the back of a Subaru Outback?

Monty

Quoting Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com>:

> Some of you may know I got married earlier this year.
>
> That will have more meaning in a moment...
>
>
>
> It was a good week for crap collecting at my house.  I stopped by a dental
> office near my house and they were literally walking out the door heading
to
> the dumpster with what the dentist described as "The oldest x-ray machine
> still licensed in the state of Oregon".  Being the geek I am I wowed over
it
> and the dentist said I should take it that it would make a cool "display".
> Of course, I'm thinking "do-it-yourself x-rays".
>
> The unit consists of the control panel which truly has some awesome "mad
> scientist" controls and gauges on it and the control head.  The control
head
> weighs about 50 lbs and I'm convinced there is some awesome stuff inside
it
> but I'll probably never know about it.
>
> The problem comes in that two days later I was given a broken (yeah
right!)
> quad core server with 8 hot-swappable bays, triple redundant power
supplies,
> etc... Good news is that I pulled one of the hot-swap power supplies and
it
> starts right up.
>
> The server now sits next to the PDP-11/83 and it's been "suggested" that I
> find a home for the x-ray machine.  I was unaware of it but a policy
change
> occurred in my house that limits the amount of crap I'm allowed to bring
> home to (1) giant, loud, heavy thing per week.  I thought about stashing
the
> x-ray machine around the corner until next week but alas, I was told that
> would be a direct violation of policy.
>
> Anyone want an x-ray machine?  If anyone is at all interested I'll haul it
> to the meeting tonight.  Let me know.
>
> - Greg
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
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From greg at grunest.com  Mon Sep 14 20:23:29 2009
From: greg at grunest.com (Greg Grunest)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:23:29 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
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It didn't look too bitchin' with parts of an x-ray machine hanging out of
it.

DAMN YOU!  Now I need to go listen to that song.

-----Original Message-----
From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
[mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of Brian
Richardson
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:19 PM
To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)
Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?

Was it a bitchin' camaro?


(Sorry.. couldn't resist)

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com> wrote:
> I brought it home in my camaro.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
> [mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of
> montyg at bittybot.com
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:13 PM
> To: dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
>
> How giant are we talking?
> Will it fit in the back of a Subaru Outback?
>
> Monty
>
> Quoting Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com>:
>
>> Some of you may know I got married earlier this year.
>>
>> That will have more meaning in a moment...
>>
>>
>>
>> It was a good week for crap collecting at my house. ?I stopped by a
dental
>> office near my house and they were literally walking out the door heading
> to
>> the dumpster with what the dentist described as "The oldest x-ray machine
>> still licensed in the state of Oregon". ?Being the geek I am I wowed over
> it
>> and the dentist said I should take it that it would make a cool
"display".
>> Of course, I'm thinking "do-it-yourself x-rays".
>>
>> The unit consists of the control panel which truly has some awesome "mad
>> scientist" controls and gauges on it and the control head. ?The control
> head
>> weighs about 50 lbs and I'm convinced there is some awesome stuff inside
> it
>> but I'll probably never know about it.
>>
>> The problem comes in that two days later I was given a broken (yeah
> right!)
>> quad core server with 8 hot-swappable bays, triple redundant power
> supplies,
>> etc... Good news is that I pulled one of the hot-swap power supplies and
> it
>> starts right up.
>>
>> The server now sits next to the PDP-11/83 and it's been "suggested" that
I
>> find a home for the x-ray machine. ?I was unaware of it but a policy
> change
>> occurred in my house that limits the amount of crap I'm allowed to bring
>> home to (1) giant, loud, heavy thing per week. ?I thought about stashing
> the
>> x-ray machine around the corner until next week but alas, I was told that
>> would be a direct violation of policy.
>>
>> Anyone want an x-ray machine? ?If anyone is at all interested I'll haul
it
>> to the meeting tonight. ?Let me know.
>>
>> - Greg
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>>
>
>
>
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From garnere at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 20:37:16 2009
From: garnere at gmail.com (Eric Garner)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:37:16 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
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if the machine has not already found a home. i'll take it off your
hands. sight unseen.

let me know

-eric

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com> wrote:
> It didn't look too bitchin' with parts of an x-ray machine hanging out of
> it.
>
> DAMN YOU! ?Now I need to go listen to that song.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
> [mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of Brian
> Richardson
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:19 PM
> To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)
> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
>
> Was it a bitchin' camaro?
>
>
> (Sorry.. couldn't resist)
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com> wrote:
>> I brought it home in my camaro.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
>> [mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of
>> montyg at bittybot.com
>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:13 PM
>> To: dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
>>
>> How giant are we talking?
>> Will it fit in the back of a Subaru Outback?
>>
>> Monty
>>
>> Quoting Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com>:
>>
>>> Some of you may know I got married earlier this year.
>>>
>>> That will have more meaning in a moment...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It was a good week for crap collecting at my house. ?I stopped by a
> dental
>>> office near my house and they were literally walking out the door heading
>> to
>>> the dumpster with what the dentist described as "The oldest x-ray machine
>>> still licensed in the state of Oregon". ?Being the geek I am I wowed over
>> it
>>> and the dentist said I should take it that it would make a cool
> "display".
>>> Of course, I'm thinking "do-it-yourself x-rays".
>>>
>>> The unit consists of the control panel which truly has some awesome "mad
>>> scientist" controls and gauges on it and the control head. ?The control
>> head
>>> weighs about 50 lbs and I'm convinced there is some awesome stuff inside
>> it
>>> but I'll probably never know about it.
>>>
>>> The problem comes in that two days later I was given a broken (yeah
>> right!)
>>> quad core server with 8 hot-swappable bays, triple redundant power
>> supplies,
>>> etc... Good news is that I pulled one of the hot-swap power supplies and
>> it
>>> starts right up.
>>>
>>> The server now sits next to the PDP-11/83 and it's been "suggested" that
> I
>>> find a home for the x-ray machine. ?I was unaware of it but a policy
>> change
>>> occurred in my house that limits the amount of crap I'm allowed to bring
>>> home to (1) giant, loud, heavy thing per week. ?I thought about stashing
>> the
>>> x-ray machine around the corner until next week but alas, I was told that
>>> would be a direct violation of policy.
>>>
>>> Anyone want an x-ray machine? ?If anyone is at all interested I'll haul
> it
>>> to the meeting tonight. ?Let me know.
>>>
>>> - Greg
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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-- 
--Eric
_________________________________________
Eric Garner

From montyg at bittybot.com  Mon Sep 14 20:38:44 2009
From: montyg at bittybot.com (montyg at bittybot.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:38:44 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap.  an xray machine?
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Sure, why not?  If it fits in my car, I'll take it.
I'm acting more on a curiosity than a need, so if someone has a need,  
feel free to step in.  I'm not sure yet if I'll keep it for long, but  
I'll offer it back up to the group before passing it on to Surplus  
Gizmos or somewhere...

Monty

Quoting Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com>:

> I brought it home in my camaro.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
> [mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of
> montyg at bittybot.com
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:13 PM
> To: dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
>
> How giant are we talking?
> Will it fit in the back of a Subaru Outback?
>
> Monty
>
> Quoting Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com>:
>
>> Some of you may know I got married earlier this year.
>>
>> That will have more meaning in a moment...
>>
>>
>>
>> It was a good week for crap collecting at my house.  I stopped by a dental
>> office near my house and they were literally walking out the door heading
> to
>> the dumpster with what the dentist described as "The oldest x-ray machine
>> still licensed in the state of Oregon".  Being the geek I am I wowed over
> it
>> and the dentist said I should take it that it would make a cool "display".
>> Of course, I'm thinking "do-it-yourself x-rays".
>>
>> The unit consists of the control panel which truly has some awesome "mad
>> scientist" controls and gauges on it and the control head.  The control
> head
>> weighs about 50 lbs and I'm convinced there is some awesome stuff inside
> it
>> but I'll probably never know about it.
>>
>> The problem comes in that two days later I was given a broken (yeah
> right!)
>> quad core server with 8 hot-swappable bays, triple redundant power
> supplies,
>> etc... Good news is that I pulled one of the hot-swap power supplies and
> it
>> starts right up.
>>
>> The server now sits next to the PDP-11/83 and it's been "suggested" that I
>> find a home for the x-ray machine.  I was unaware of it but a policy
> change
>> occurred in my house that limits the amount of crap I'm allowed to bring
>> home to (1) giant, loud, heavy thing per week.  I thought about stashing
> the
>> x-ray machine around the corner until next week but alas, I was told that
>> would be a direct violation of policy.
>>
>> Anyone want an x-ray machine?  If anyone is at all interested I'll haul it
>> to the meeting tonight.  Let me know.
>>
>> - Greg
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>>
>
>
>
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From greg at grunest.com  Mon Sep 14 20:39:06 2009
From: greg at grunest.com (Greg Grunest)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:39:06 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
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Cool!

-----Original Message-----
From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
[mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of Eric Garner
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:37 PM
To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)
Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?

if the machine has not already found a home. i'll take it off your
hands. sight unseen.

let me know

-eric

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com> wrote:
> It didn't look too bitchin' with parts of an x-ray machine hanging out of
> it.
>
> DAMN YOU! ?Now I need to go listen to that song.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
> [mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of Brian
> Richardson
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:19 PM
> To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)
> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
>
> Was it a bitchin' camaro?
>
>
> (Sorry.. couldn't resist)
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com> wrote:
>> I brought it home in my camaro.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
>> [mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of
>> montyg at bittybot.com
>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:13 PM
>> To: dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
>>
>> How giant are we talking?
>> Will it fit in the back of a Subaru Outback?
>>
>> Monty
>>
>> Quoting Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com>:
>>
>>> Some of you may know I got married earlier this year.
>>>
>>> That will have more meaning in a moment...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It was a good week for crap collecting at my house. ?I stopped by a
> dental
>>> office near my house and they were literally walking out the door
heading
>> to
>>> the dumpster with what the dentist described as "The oldest x-ray
machine
>>> still licensed in the state of Oregon". ?Being the geek I am I wowed
over
>> it
>>> and the dentist said I should take it that it would make a cool
> "display".
>>> Of course, I'm thinking "do-it-yourself x-rays".
>>>
>>> The unit consists of the control panel which truly has some awesome "mad
>>> scientist" controls and gauges on it and the control head. ?The control
>> head
>>> weighs about 50 lbs and I'm convinced there is some awesome stuff inside
>> it
>>> but I'll probably never know about it.
>>>
>>> The problem comes in that two days later I was given a broken (yeah
>> right!)
>>> quad core server with 8 hot-swappable bays, triple redundant power
>> supplies,
>>> etc... Good news is that I pulled one of the hot-swap power supplies and
>> it
>>> starts right up.
>>>
>>> The server now sits next to the PDP-11/83 and it's been "suggested" that
> I
>>> find a home for the x-ray machine. ?I was unaware of it but a policy
>> change
>>> occurred in my house that limits the amount of crap I'm allowed to bring
>>> home to (1) giant, loud, heavy thing per week. ?I thought about stashing
>> the
>>> x-ray machine around the corner until next week but alas, I was told
that
>>> would be a direct violation of policy.
>>>
>>> Anyone want an x-ray machine? ?If anyone is at all interested I'll haul
> it
>>> to the meeting tonight. ?Let me know.
>>>
>>> - Greg
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>>
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>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>>
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> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
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From montyg at bittybot.com  Mon Sep 14 20:41:03 2009
From: montyg at bittybot.com (montyg at bittybot.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:41:03 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
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oops.  I was too slow.  Go for it Eric!
Can I bring my boards by for x-raying sometime ;-)

Monty

Quoting Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com>:

> Cool!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
> [mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of Eric Garner
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:37 PM
> To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)
> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
>
> if the machine has not already found a home. i'll take it off your
> hands. sight unseen.
>
> let me know
>
> -eric
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com> wrote:
>> It didn't look too bitchin' with parts of an x-ray machine hanging out of
>> it.
>>
>> DAMN YOU! ?Now I need to go listen to that song.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
>> [mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of Brian
>> Richardson
>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:19 PM
>> To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)
>> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
>>
>> Was it a bitchin' camaro?
>>
>>
>> (Sorry.. couldn't resist)
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com> wrote:
>>> I brought it home in my camaro.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
>>> [mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of
>>> montyg at bittybot.com
>>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:13 PM
>>> To: dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>>> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
>>>
>>> How giant are we talking?
>>> Will it fit in the back of a Subaru Outback?
>>>
>>> Monty
>>>
>>> Quoting Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com>:
>>>
>>>> Some of you may know I got married earlier this year.
>>>>
>>>> That will have more meaning in a moment...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It was a good week for crap collecting at my house. ?I stopped by a
>> dental
>>>> office near my house and they were literally walking out the door
> heading
>>> to
>>>> the dumpster with what the dentist described as "The oldest x-ray
> machine
>>>> still licensed in the state of Oregon". ?Being the geek I am I wowed
> over
>>> it
>>>> and the dentist said I should take it that it would make a cool
>> "display".
>>>> Of course, I'm thinking "do-it-yourself x-rays".
>>>>
>>>> The unit consists of the control panel which truly has some awesome "mad
>>>> scientist" controls and gauges on it and the control head. ?The control
>>> head
>>>> weighs about 50 lbs and I'm convinced there is some awesome stuff inside
>>> it
>>>> but I'll probably never know about it.
>>>>
>>>> The problem comes in that two days later I was given a broken (yeah
>>> right!)
>>>> quad core server with 8 hot-swappable bays, triple redundant power
>>> supplies,
>>>> etc... Good news is that I pulled one of the hot-swap power supplies and
>>> it
>>>> starts right up.
>>>>
>>>> The server now sits next to the PDP-11/83 and it's been "suggested" that
>> I
>>>> find a home for the x-ray machine. ?I was unaware of it but a policy
>>> change
>>>> occurred in my house that limits the amount of crap I'm allowed to bring
>>>> home to (1) giant, loud, heavy thing per week. ?I thought about stashing
>>> the
>>>> x-ray machine around the corner until next week but alas, I was told
> that
>>>> would be a direct violation of policy.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone want an x-ray machine? ?If anyone is at all interested I'll haul
>> it
>>>> to the meeting tonight. ?Let me know.
>>>>
>>>> - Greg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>>>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>>
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>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --Eric
> _________________________________________
> Eric Garner
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>
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>




From curator at ongallery.org  Mon Sep 14 21:06:33 2009
From: curator at ongallery.org (Benjamin Foote)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:06:33 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Meeting on Monday, 9/14 7pm @ Backspace
In-Reply-To: <4AAD36F7.6060809@noisybox.net>
References: <4AAD36F7.6060809@noisybox.net>
Message-ID: <10e900420909141806ib84b0f2o1113bbfba24794c7@mail.gmail.com>

Hi There,

I wanted to let you know that I'm planning on heading over to Backspace in a
bit and that I'm hoping to begin checking in with folks regarding their
projects for the October Show at ON...

http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/on_gallery_show_oct_09
If you're on that list it would be of great help to me if you could just
drop me a note to let me know how you're doing and to confirm your
participation.  Also, please let me know if you're facing any challenges or
if you need help.  I know we can find you some good folks.

Thanks!

ben



On Sep 13, 2009 11:16 AM, "Jason Plumb" <jason at noisybox.net> wrote:


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Hey, tomorrow is an every-other-Monday again!  You know what that
means...it means it's time to join DorkbotPDX at Backspace for our
biweekly casual hangout nite.

+++++++ Monday, September 14th
+++++++ Backspace (backspace.bz) (5th and Couch)
+++++++ Seven (7) pm

We'll have tables and power and a desire to do strange things with
electricity.  Backspace has great food, hot coffee, cold beer and solid
WiFi.  Feel free to bring a project to hack on or just stop by to
synthesize your inner dork.

-jason
http://noisybox.net
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From gunterhausfrau at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 22:51:02 2009
From: gunterhausfrau at gmail.com (dan p)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:51:02 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
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x-ray tubes do have a lifetime... and beryllium.


On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:41 PM, <montyg at bittybot.com> wrote:

> oops.  I was too slow.  Go for it Eric!
> Can I bring my boards by for x-raying sometime ;-)
>
> Monty
>
> Quoting Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com>:
>
> > Cool!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
> > [mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of Eric Garner
> > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:37 PM
> > To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)
> > Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
> >
> > if the machine has not already found a home. i'll take it off your
> > hands. sight unseen.
> >
> > let me know
> >
> > -eric
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com> wrote:
> >> It didn't look too bitchin' with parts of an x-ray machine hanging out
> of
> >> it.
> >>
> >> DAMN YOU!  Now I need to go listen to that song.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
> >> [mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of Brian
> >> Richardson
> >> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:19 PM
> >> To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)
> >> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
> >>
> >> Was it a bitchin' camaro?
> >>
> >>
> >> (Sorry.. couldn't resist)
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com> wrote:
> >>> I brought it home in my camaro.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
> >>> [mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of
> >>> montyg at bittybot.com
> >>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:13 PM
> >>> To: dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
> >>>
> >>> How giant are we talking?
> >>> Will it fit in the back of a Subaru Outback?
> >>>
> >>> Monty
> >>>
> >>> Quoting Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com>:
> >>>
> >>>> Some of you may know I got married earlier this year.
> >>>>
> >>>> That will have more meaning in a moment...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It was a good week for crap collecting at my house.  I stopped by a
> >> dental
> >>>> office near my house and they were literally walking out the door
> > heading
> >>> to
> >>>> the dumpster with what the dentist described as "The oldest x-ray
> > machine
> >>>> still licensed in the state of Oregon".  Being the geek I am I wowed
> > over
> >>> it
> >>>> and the dentist said I should take it that it would make a cool
> >> "display".
> >>>> Of course, I'm thinking "do-it-yourself x-rays".
> >>>>
> >>>> The unit consists of the control panel which truly has some awesome
> "mad
> >>>> scientist" controls and gauges on it and the control head.  The
> control
> >>> head
> >>>> weighs about 50 lbs and I'm convinced there is some awesome stuff
> inside
> >>> it
> >>>> but I'll probably never know about it.
> >>>>
> >>>> The problem comes in that two days later I was given a broken (yeah
> >>> right!)
> >>>> quad core server with 8 hot-swappable bays, triple redundant power
> >>> supplies,
> >>>> etc... Good news is that I pulled one of the hot-swap power supplies
> and
> >>> it
> >>>> starts right up.
> >>>>
> >>>> The server now sits next to the PDP-11/83 and it's been "suggested"
> that
> >> I
> >>>> find a home for the x-ray machine.  I was unaware of it but a policy
> >>> change
> >>>> occurred in my house that limits the amount of crap I'm allowed to
> bring
> >>>> home to (1) giant, loud, heavy thing per week.  I thought about
> stashing
> >>> the
> >>>> x-ray machine around the corner until next week but alas, I was told
> > that
> >>>> would be a direct violation of policy.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone want an x-ray machine?  If anyone is at all interested I'll
> haul
> >> it
> >>>> to the meeting tonight.  Let me know.
> >>>>
> >>>> - Greg
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> >>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> >>>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> >>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> >>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> >>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
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> >> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
> >>
> >
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> >
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> > _________________________________________
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From garnere at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 16:17:38 2009
From: garnere at gmail.com (Eric Garner)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:17:38 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
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yea, but it's usually beryllium metal in sheet form, not powdered,
there's and not powdered BeO in it, so I'm kind of meh on the toxicity
aspect

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:51 PM, dan p <gunterhausfrau at gmail.com> wrote:
> x-ray tubes do have a lifetime... and beryllium.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:41 PM, <montyg at bittybot.com> wrote:
>>
>> oops. ?I was too slow. ?Go for it Eric!
>> Can I bring my boards by for x-raying sometime ;-)
>>
>> Monty
>>
>> Quoting Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com>:
>>
>> > Cool!
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
>> > [mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of Eric Garner
>> > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:37 PM
>> > To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)
>> > Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
>> >
>> > if the machine has not already found a home. i'll take it off your
>> > hands. sight unseen.
>> >
>> > let me know
>> >
>> > -eric
>> >
>> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com> wrote:
>> >> It didn't look too bitchin' with parts of an x-ray machine hanging out
>> >> of
>> >> it.
>> >>
>> >> DAMN YOU! ?Now I need to go listen to that song.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
>> >> [mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of Brian
>> >> Richardson
>> >> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:19 PM
>> >> To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)
>> >> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
>> >>
>> >> Was it a bitchin' camaro?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> (Sorry.. couldn't resist)
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com> wrote:
>> >>> I brought it home in my camaro.
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
>> >>> [mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of
>> >>> montyg at bittybot.com
>> >>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:13 PM
>> >>> To: dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> >>> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
>> >>>
>> >>> How giant are we talking?
>> >>> Will it fit in the back of a Subaru Outback?
>> >>>
>> >>> Monty
>> >>>
>> >>> Quoting Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com>:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Some of you may know I got married earlier this year.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> That will have more meaning in a moment...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It was a good week for crap collecting at my house. ?I stopped by a
>> >> dental
>> >>>> office near my house and they were literally walking out the door
>> > heading
>> >>> to
>> >>>> the dumpster with what the dentist described as "The oldest x-ray
>> > machine
>> >>>> still licensed in the state of Oregon". ?Being the geek I am I wowed
>> > over
>> >>> it
>> >>>> and the dentist said I should take it that it would make a cool
>> >> "display".
>> >>>> Of course, I'm thinking "do-it-yourself x-rays".
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The unit consists of the control panel which truly has some awesome
>> >>>> "mad
>> >>>> scientist" controls and gauges on it and the control head. ?The
>> >>>> control
>> >>> head
>> >>>> weighs about 50 lbs and I'm convinced there is some awesome stuff
>> >>>> inside
>> >>> it
>> >>>> but I'll probably never know about it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The problem comes in that two days later I was given a broken (yeah
>> >>> right!)
>> >>>> quad core server with 8 hot-swappable bays, triple redundant power
>> >>> supplies,
>> >>>> etc... Good news is that I pulled one of the hot-swap power supplies
>> >>>> and
>> >>> it
>> >>>> starts right up.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The server now sits next to the PDP-11/83 and it's been "suggested"
>> >>>> that
>> >> I
>> >>>> find a home for the x-ray machine. ?I was unaware of it but a policy
>> >>> change
>> >>>> occurred in my house that limits the amount of crap I'm allowed to
>> >>>> bring
>> >>>> home to (1) giant, loud, heavy thing per week. ?I thought about
>> >>>> stashing
>> >>> the
>> >>>> x-ray machine around the corner until next week but alas, I was told
>> > that
>> >>>> would be a direct violation of policy.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Anyone want an x-ray machine? ?If anyone is at all interested I'll
>> >>>> haul
>> >> it
>> >>>> to the meeting tonight. ?Let me know.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> - Greg
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>> >>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> >>>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>> >>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> >>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>> >>>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>> >>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> >>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>> >>>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>> >> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> >> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>> >> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> >> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > --Eric
>> > _________________________________________
>> > Eric Garner
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>> > dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>> >
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>> > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>> > dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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-- 
--Eric
_________________________________________
Eric Garner

From gunterhausfrau at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 17:07:53 2009
From: gunterhausfrau at gmail.com (dan p)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:07:53 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
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True, but should not be disposed of/handled without care.

as a side note, Berylium used to be called Glucinium (apparently tastes
sweet... don't try it).

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Eric Garner <garnere at gmail.com> wrote:

> yea, but it's usually beryllium metal in sheet form, not powdered,
> there's and not powdered BeO in it, so I'm kind of meh on the toxicity
> aspect
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:51 PM, dan p <gunterhausfrau at gmail.com> wrote:
> > x-ray tubes do have a lifetime... and beryllium.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:41 PM, <montyg at bittybot.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> oops.  I was too slow.  Go for it Eric!
> >> Can I bring my boards by for x-raying sometime ;-)
> >>
> >> Monty
> >>
> >> Quoting Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com>:
> >>
> >> > Cool!
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
> >> > [mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of Eric
> Garner
> >> > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:37 PM
> >> > To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)
> >> > Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
> >> >
> >> > if the machine has not already found a home. i'll take it off your
> >> > hands. sight unseen.
> >> >
> >> > let me know
> >> >
> >> > -eric
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> It didn't look too bitchin' with parts of an x-ray machine hanging
> out
> >> >> of
> >> >> it.
> >> >>
> >> >> DAMN YOU!  Now I need to go listen to that song.
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
> >> >> [mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of Brian
> >> >> Richardson
> >> >> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:19 PM
> >> >> To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)
> >> >> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
> >> >>
> >> >> Was it a bitchin' camaro?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> (Sorry.. couldn't resist)
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>> I brought it home in my camaro.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
> >> >>> [mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of
> >> >>> montyg at bittybot.com
> >> >>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:13 PM
> >> >>> To: dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> >> >>> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] more crap. an xray machine?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> How giant are we talking?
> >> >>> Will it fit in the back of a Subaru Outback?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Monty
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Quoting Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com>:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Some of you may know I got married earlier this year.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> That will have more meaning in a moment...
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> It was a good week for crap collecting at my house.  I stopped by a
> >> >> dental
> >> >>>> office near my house and they were literally walking out the door
> >> > heading
> >> >>> to
> >> >>>> the dumpster with what the dentist described as "The oldest x-ray
> >> > machine
> >> >>>> still licensed in the state of Oregon".  Being the geek I am I
> wowed
> >> > over
> >> >>> it
> >> >>>> and the dentist said I should take it that it would make a cool
> >> >> "display".
> >> >>>> Of course, I'm thinking "do-it-yourself x-rays".
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> The unit consists of the control panel which truly has some awesome
> >> >>>> "mad
> >> >>>> scientist" controls and gauges on it and the control head.  The
> >> >>>> control
> >> >>> head
> >> >>>> weighs about 50 lbs and I'm convinced there is some awesome stuff
> >> >>>> inside
> >> >>> it
> >> >>>> but I'll probably never know about it.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> The problem comes in that two days later I was given a broken (yeah
> >> >>> right!)
> >> >>>> quad core server with 8 hot-swappable bays, triple redundant power
> >> >>> supplies,
> >> >>>> etc... Good news is that I pulled one of the hot-swap power
> supplies
> >> >>>> and
> >> >>> it
> >> >>>> starts right up.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> The server now sits next to the PDP-11/83 and it's been "suggested"
> >> >>>> that
> >> >> I
> >> >>>> find a home for the x-ray machine.  I was unaware of it but a
> policy
> >> >>> change
> >> >>>> occurred in my house that limits the amount of crap I'm allowed to
> >> >>>> bring
> >> >>>> home to (1) giant, loud, heavy thing per week.  I thought about
> >> >>>> stashing
> >> >>> the
> >> >>>> x-ray machine around the corner until next week but alas, I was
> told
> >> > that
> >> >>>> would be a direct violation of policy.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Anyone want an x-ray machine?  If anyone is at all interested I'll
> >> >>>> haul
> >> >> it
> >> >>>> to the meeting tonight.  Let me know.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> - Greg
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >> >>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> >> >>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> >> >>>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> _______________________________________________
> >> >>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> >> >>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> >> >>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
> >> >>>
> >> >>> _______________________________________________
> >> >>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> >> >>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> >> >>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
> >> >>>
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> >> >> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> >> >> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
> >> >>
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> >> >> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> >> >> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > --Eric
> >> > _________________________________________
> >> > Eric Garner
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> >> > dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> >> > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> >> > dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> >> > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> >> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> >> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
> >
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> > dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
> >
>
>
>
> --
> --Eric
> _________________________________________
> Eric Garner
> _______________________________________________
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> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
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From ddelmardavis at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 19:30:12 2009
From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Delmar Davis)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:30:12 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] needed: Dead MacBook (THANKS)
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I just wanted to say thanks to Mark Gross who pulled through for me on  
this issue.
Also to Scott Dixon and the others who helped out as well.

As of last week I am back up and running with my trusty intel macbook.

Don AKA Feurig. 

From james.neal at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 16:58:26 2009
From: james.neal at gmail.com (Laen)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:58:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] DBPCB Fabrication Trial Run
Message-ID: <6b1e38ba-4cc5-4319-9b1b-09cbb73ec85d@r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>

As some of you know, we've been working on setting up a prototype PCB
fabrication service for Portland's electronics artists, builders, and
makers of things.  This should be much like Sparkfun's BatchPCB
service, except cheaper, and produced domestically.

Well, good news, everyone! We're ready to do a trial run!

To participate, just email me an Eagle .brd and tell me how many of
copies you'd want if you had to pay $2.50 per square inch.  (When this
goes live, our actual pricing may be different, but for now pretend
it's $2.50).

Because we've never done this before and have no idea how it's going
to turn out, this order will be free of charge, so PLEASE submit a
board if you have something you want fabbed.  I want to get a sense
for the sizes of the boards, how efficiently we'll be able to
panelize, and how popular the service is likely to be.

You have until October 1st to place your order, and they'll be ready
for pickup at the October 12th Dorkbot general meeting.  If you won't
be there, we can arrange for postal mail delivery.

If you're using eagle, please use this DRU file (and email me or the
dorkbotpdx-blabber list if you don't know what that means and want
help setting it up):

  http://content.laen.org/dbpcb/DBPCB.dru

Capabilities:
  8 mil minimum traces.
  8 mil minimum clearances.
  20 mil minimum drill size

-Laen

From james.neal at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 17:19:44 2009
From: james.neal at gmail.com (Laen)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:19:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
	September 21st is the next group order
Message-ID: <8bd790ac-f9d7-4513-97c5-531a2c21f8aa@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>

It's that time again!

http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/dorkbotpdx_group_ordering

In this order, the usual suspects:
  Digikey
  Mouser

..and special guest:
     http://www.hobbypartz.com/ , featuring inexpensive servos,
lithium-ion batteries, radio control components, and robot parts.

We'll be ordering a bunch of these:
    http://www.hobbypartz.com/kahaoubrmo14.html
..and we might be able to swing a quantity discount.  No guarantees,
though.

-Laen

From richard.harding at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 22:26:13 2009
From: richard.harding at gmail.com (Richard Harding)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:26:13 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Thermocouples
Message-ID: <655fee110909161926wc5622c4j45bd8b5d93c6f3e6@mail.gmail.com>

I just recieved a pack of 5 thermocouples and I only need 2. If anyone needs
one, say, for converting a toaster oven to a reflow oven, I'll sell you one
at the next meeting at cost.

Details: Omega K-type, .032 dia, 36" leads, glass insulated.

The pack of 5 ended up being $47 w/shipping, so $10 gets you one.
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From dausmus at gmail.com  Thu Sep 17 01:27:15 2009
From: dausmus at gmail.com (Doug Ausmus)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:27:15 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Thermocouples
In-Reply-To: <655fee110909161926wc5622c4j45bd8b5d93c6f3e6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <655fee110909161926wc5622c4j45bd8b5d93c6f3e6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <307640010909162227t14d551deqfe78b80f1e090566@mail.gmail.com>

Do you have the Omega part number for these so I can look up the specs?
Thanks-
Doug

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Richard Harding
<richard.harding at gmail.com> wrote:
> I just recieved a pack of 5 thermocouples and I only need 2. If anyone needs
> one, say, for converting a toaster oven to a reflow oven, I'll sell you one
> at the next meeting at cost.
>
> Details: Omega K-type, .032 dia, 36" leads, glass insulated.
>
> The pack of 5 ended up being $47 w/shipping, so $10 gets you one.
>
>
>
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From curator at ongallery.org  Thu Sep 17 12:28:05 2009
From: curator at ongallery.org (Benjamin Foote)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:28:05 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] PR for ON Gallery show: Piece & Artist
	information please
Message-ID: <10e900420909170928l7d7fac63je172a48a0a099f6f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Everybody,

If you have a piece in the October show at ON Gallery please send me..

- the name of your piece
- your moniker as you would like it to appear
- one or two phrases describing your media
- a (short!) blurb about the piece
- a photo applicable to the work if you have one

I'll be compiling your snippets into a press release which I'll send back
out to the list so we can all get the word out there.

Ward and Jim's example is below (thanks guys).

AND if you haven't checked in with me this week about your participation in
the show please do let me know how it's going and confirm that you'll be
ready for install starting on the 28th.
http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/on_gallery_show_oct_09

Two weeks til First Thursday!

Thanks for all your hard work,

ben

Benjamin Foote
http://pdxstump.com - a search engine and news aggregator for Portland
http://ONgallery.org - an art gallery for interactive media, First Thursday
openings
http://bnf.net - Linux and Java Consulting
ben at bnf.net
503-313-5379
@pdxstump on twitter



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Benjamin Foote <ben at bnf.net>
Date: Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: Codosome Hexis
To: Ward Cunningham <ward at c2.com>
Cc: Jim Larson <jlarson at pacifier.com>


awesome!  Thanks so much!

ben

Benjamin Foote
http://pdxstump.com - a search engine and news aggregator for Portland
http://ONgallery.org - an art gallery for interactive media, First Thursday
openings
http://bnf.net - Linux and Java Consulting
ben at bnf.net
503-313-5379
@pdxstump on twitter




On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Ward Cunningham <ward at c2.com> wrote:

>
>
>
>
> Title:
>
>        Codosome Hexis
>
> Artists:
>
>        Ward Cunningham
>        Jim Larson
>
> Medium:
>
>        Interactive Video & Ink Jet Photography
>
>
>
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From jason at noisybox.net  Thu Sep 17 20:07:21 2009
From: jason at noisybox.net (Jason Plumb)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:07:21 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [Fwd: Slick open source logic simulator]
Message-ID: <4AB2CF39.5020406@noisybox.net>

Just wanted to forward on this slick computer-based logic sim tool that 
some of you dorks will enjoy.

-jason

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Slick open source logic simulator
From: 	this person <this at person.com>
To: 	Jason Plumb <jason at noisybox.net>

This may be old news, but it's news to me:
http://sol.gfxile.net/atanua/downloads.html

From richard.harding at gmail.com  Thu Sep 17 23:05:13 2009
From: richard.harding at gmail.com (Richard Harding)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:05:13 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Thermocouples
Message-ID: <655fee110909172005p4d9d0719t9d20700ceb198db8@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry - Omega Part # is 5TC-GG-K-20-36
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From jason at noisybox.net  Fri Sep 18 01:50:04 2009
From: jason at noisybox.net (Jason Plumb)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:50:04 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] PR for ON Gallery show: Piece &
 Artist	information please
In-Reply-To: <10e900420909170928l7d7fac63je172a48a0a099f6f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <10e900420909170928l7d7fac63je172a48a0a099f6f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB31F8C.8020103@noisybox.net>

Benjamin Foote wrote:
> - the name of your piece

Workhorse :: pony mare bridle

> - your moniker as you would like it to appear

jason plumb

> - one or two phrases describing your media

(performance for) desk, electronics, computer.

> - a (short!) blurb about the piece

a random study on man-machine symbiosis, the specificity of language, 
and morbid repetition.

> - a photo applicable to the work if you have one

I don't have one, but I measured the desk and it's 5' wide by 31" deep 
by 30.5" tall.

-jason


From skinny at knowhere.net  Fri Sep 18 13:28:42 2009
From: skinny at knowhere.net (Brian Richardson)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:28:42 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] PR for ON Gallery show: Piece & Artist
	information please
In-Reply-To: <10e900420909170928l7d7fac63je172a48a0a099f6f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <10e900420909170928l7d7fac63je172a48a0a099f6f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7164e3620909181028k63bac784ncc6494ec1f53c434@mail.gmail.com>

> - the name of your piece

Retina Tattoo Gun

> - your moniker as you would like it to appear

bzztbomb

> - one or two phrases describing your media

Light and images? ;)

> - a (short!) blurb about the piece

This amazing device allows the user to imprint images on their retinas
for a small period of time!

> - a photo applicable to the work if you have one

A photo of the guts of the older version is here:
http://noisybox.net/weblog/images/retinal_tattoo.gif


On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Benjamin Foote <curator at ongallery.org> wrote:
> Hi Everybody,
>
> If you have a piece in the October show at ON Gallery please send me..
>
> - the name of your piece
> - your moniker as you would like it to appear
> - one or two phrases describing your media
> - a (short!) blurb about the piece
> - a photo applicable to the work if you have one
>
> I'll be compiling your snippets into a press release which I'll send back
> out to the list so we can all get the word out there.
>
> Ward and Jim's example is below (thanks guys).
>
> AND if you haven't checked in with me this week about your participation in
> the show please do let me know how it's going and confirm that you'll be
> ready for install starting on the 28th.
> http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/on_gallery_show_oct_09
>
> Two weeks til First Thursday!
>
> Thanks for all your hard work,
>
> ben
>
> Benjamin Foote
> http://pdxstump.com - a search engine and news aggregator for Portland
> http://ONgallery.org - an art gallery for interactive media, First Thursday
> openings
> http://bnf.net - Linux and Java Consulting
> ben at bnf.net
> 503-313-5379
> @pdxstump on twitter
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Benjamin Foote <ben at bnf.net>
> Date: Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 9:03 AM
> Subject: Re: Codosome Hexis
> To: Ward Cunningham <ward at c2.com>
> Cc: Jim Larson <jlarson at pacifier.com>
>
>
> awesome!? Thanks so much!
>
> ben
>
> Benjamin Foote
> http://pdxstump.com - a search engine and news aggregator for Portland
> http://ONgallery.org - an art gallery for interactive media, First Thursday
> openings
> http://bnf.net - Linux and Java Consulting
> ben at bnf.net
> 503-313-5379
> @pdxstump on twitter
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Ward Cunningham <ward at c2.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Title:
>>
>> ? ? ? ?Codosome Hexis
>>
>> Artists:
>>
>> ? ? ? ?Ward Cunningham
>> ? ? ? ?Jim Larson
>>
>> Medium:
>>
>> ? ? ? ?Interactive Video & Ink Jet Photography
>>
>>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>

From dorkbot at mersenne.com  Fri Sep 18 13:40:58 2009
From: dorkbot at mersenne.com (dave madden)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:40:58 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] DBPCB Fabrication
In-Reply-To: <mailman.340.1253294929.139.dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org>
References: <mailman.340.1253294929.139.dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org>
Message-ID: <1253295658.5141.5.camel@voodoo.mersenne.com>

On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 13:28 -0400, Laen <james.neal at gmail.com> wrote:

> As some of you know, we've been working on setting up a prototype PCB
> fabrication service for Portland

> Well, good news, everyone! We're ready to do a trial run!

Woot!  Can you use Gerbers instead of Eagle files?  (I use KiCad, which
does not have the size & layer limitations of Eagle.  Of course, Eagle
has curves and better zone fill.  You gets what you pay for, I guess ;-)

What's the quick-n-dirty design rules?  I use 0.5mm parts, so my min
trace/space is a little below 8mil.  How about slots, board outline
routing, soldermask, silkscreen?

I definitely have some stuff to make!

d.


From dorkbot at mersenne.com  Fri Sep 18 13:47:11 2009
From: dorkbot at mersenne.com (dave madden)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:47:11 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] DBPCB
Message-ID: <1253296031.5141.11.camel@voodoo.mersenne.com>

D'oh!  I scrolled right past the quick-n-dirty design rules in your
message.  Sorry.  And actually, I just called up one of my designs in
Gerbv.  It looks like 8/8 is enough to do 0.5mm parts.  For some reason,
I recall having to set my DRC to 7.5mil to get things to pass, and I
thought it was the LQFP parts.  Maybe it was just a problem with the DRC
software.


From james.neal at gmail.com  Fri Sep 18 15:16:29 2009
From: james.neal at gmail.com (Laen)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:16:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] DBPCB Fabrication
In-Reply-To: <1253295658.5141.5.camel@voodoo.mersenne.com>
References: <mailman.340.1253294929.139.dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org> 
	<1253295658.5141.5.camel@voodoo.mersenne.com>
Message-ID: <fe5089e4-7e2c-4aa2-ad2e-808fb149d878@m33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>

On Sep 18, 10:40?am, dave madden <dork... at mersenne.com> wrote:
> Woot! ?Can you use Gerbers instead of Eagle files? ?(I use KiCad, which
> does not have the size & layer limitations of Eagle. ?Of course, Eagle
> has curves and better zone fill. ?You gets what you pay for, I guess ;-)

Yeah, gerbers are just fine.  I'll just be processing the eagle brds
into gerber for gerbmerge panelizing anyway.

> What's the quick-n-dirty design rules? ?I use 0.5mm parts, so my min
> trace/space is a little below 8mil. ?How about slots, board outline
> routing, soldermask, silkscreen?

8 mil traces
20 mil drills
Boards will be tab-routed.  Slots are okay.
Soldermask top and bottom (and green)
Silkscreen top only

> I definitely have some stuff to make!

Great! Glad to hear it!   I hope we get some more designs in, or
this'll be a pretty boring order. :)

-Laen

From richard.harding at gmail.com  Fri Sep 18 16:06:54 2009
From: richard.harding at gmail.com (Richard Harding)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:06:54 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
	September 21st is the 	next group order
Message-ID: <655fee110909181306q7cb97d8fha2100e7dbd8879d9@mail.gmail.com>

Digikey, Qty 10 LM1117MP-ADJCT-ND Adjustable VR1.35  13.50
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From james.neal at gmail.com  Fri Sep 18 17:23:48 2009
From: james.neal at gmail.com (Laen)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:23:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] PR for ON Gallery show: Piece & Artist
	information please
In-Reply-To: <10e900420909170928l7d7fac63je172a48a0a099f6f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <10e900420909170928l7d7fac63je172a48a0a099f6f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <28f88b62-4370-4bcb-93bc-589c3fd16cb7@h14g2000pri.googlegroups.com>

On Sep 17, 9:28?am, Benjamin Foote <cura... at ongallery.org> wrote:
> Hi Everybody,
>
> If you have a piece in the October show at ON Gallery please send me..
>
> - the name of your piece

Voltage Village

> - your moniker as you would like it to appear

Laen

> - one or two phrases describing your media

Wires, resisters, capacitors, inductors, and other electronic
components.

> - a (short!) blurb about the piece

Electricity provides the spark of life in Voltage Village.

> - a photo applicable to the work if you have one

Here's one of the sculptures in the series:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/laen/2304649983/in/set-72157604024875794/


From markgross at thegnar.org  Fri Sep 18 20:59:33 2009
From: markgross at thegnar.org (mgross)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:59:33 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
	September 21st is	the next group order
In-Reply-To: <8bd790ac-f9d7-4513-97c5-531a2c21f8aa@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
References: <8bd790ac-f9d7-4513-97c5-531a2c21f8aa@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <20090919005933.GA29422@thegnar.org>

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 02:19:44PM -0700, Laen wrote:
> It's that time again!
> 
> http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/dorkbotpdx_group_ordering
> 
> In this order, the usual suspects:
>   Digikey

I would like to get 4 of
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=12FR100E-ND
and 4 of 
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=12FR050E-ND

(so far...)

Thanks!

--mgross



>   Mouser
> 
> ..and special guest:
>      http://www.hobbypartz.com/ , featuring inexpensive servos,
> lithium-ion batteries, radio control components, and robot parts.
> 
> We'll be ordering a bunch of these:
>     http://www.hobbypartz.com/kahaoubrmo14.html
> ..and we might be able to swing a quantity discount.  No guarantees,
> though.
> 
> -Laen
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber

From coldham2 at mac.com  Sat Sep 19 00:56:01 2009
From: coldham2 at mac.com (coldham2 at mac.com)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:56:01 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] PR for ON Gallery show: Piece & Artist
 information please
In-Reply-To: <10e900420909170928l7d7fac63je172a48a0a099f6f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <10e900420909170928l7d7fac63je172a48a0a099f6f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7A5A26AA-0776-4291-BDD1-6BDB83453358@mac.com>

>
> - the name of your piece
Bed (green fuse)
> - your moniker as you would like it to appear
Collin Oldham
> - one or two phrases describing your media
Mixed media on handbuilt electronics and freekbox
> - a (short!) blurb about the piece
The viewer is invited to use the Radio Trowel to explore the surface  
of the bed. Listen!
> - a photo applicable to the work if you have one
http://homepage.mac.com/coldham/klang/radio_trowel.jpg

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From jason at noisybox.net  Sat Sep 19 11:57:44 2009
From: jason at noisybox.net (Jason Plumb)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 08:57:44 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [Fwd: Make:PDX BBQ]
Message-ID: <4AB4FF78.1050305@noisybox.net>

The Make PDX people are having and end of summer BBQ out at Beaverton 
Tech Shop next Saturday, and I'm cross posting this on their behalf. 
Details attached!

-jason

------------------------------------------------------------------------

End of Summer BBQ Pot Luck ? September 26th 3:00 @ TechShop
 
http://makepdx.org/2009/09/18/end-of-summer-bbq-pot-luck-september-26th-300-techshop/

The Days are getting shorter and the infamous Oregon winter looms large
just over the horizon. So while there is still time let?s get together
and celebrate another summer?s worth of projects done by getting
together and eating ourselves silly! Show off your culinary prowess and
bring your favorite dish for every one to try.

As usual if you bring project that you?ve been working on and show it
off you?ll get a fabulous piece of Make swag.

During the BBQ we?re going to be doing an egg drop. The winner will
receive a nice T-Shirt and an issue of Make magazine.
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From jared at deathbyhonor.com  Mon Sep 21 02:00:52 2009
From: jared at deathbyhonor.com (Jared Arave)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:00:52 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
	September 21st is the next group order
In-Reply-To: <8bd790ac-f9d7-4513-97c5-531a2c21f8aa@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
References: <8bd790ac-f9d7-4513-97c5-531a2c21f8aa@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <2AB6C5F7-DA17-444F-A92E-48E96F0681F7@deathbyhonor.com>

A bit late on the group order train, but I guess it is still  
technically the 20th...
price reduction on 102s, if anyone's been waiting to build that cheap- 
o Arduino relay!

Qty 50, Digikey, TIP102TU-ND,	$0.465

Thanks!
Jared

On Sep 16, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Laen wrote:

> It's that time again!
>
> http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/dorkbotpdx_group_ordering
>
> In this order, the usual suspects:
>  Digikey
>  Mouser
>
> ..and special guest:
>     http://www.hobbypartz.com/ , featuring inexpensive servos,
> lithium-ion batteries, radio control components, and robot parts.
>
> We'll be ordering a bunch of these:
>    http://www.hobbypartz.com/kahaoubrmo14.html
> ..and we might be able to swing a quantity discount.  No guarantees,
> though.
>
> -Laen
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber

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From coldham2 at mac.com  Mon Sep 21 02:12:05 2009
From: coldham2 at mac.com (coldham2 at mac.com)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:12:05 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
 September 21st is the next group order
In-Reply-To: <2AB6C5F7-DA17-444F-A92E-48E96F0681F7@deathbyhonor.com>
References: <8bd790ac-f9d7-4513-97c5-531a2c21f8aa@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
	<2AB6C5F7-DA17-444F-A92E-48E96F0681F7@deathbyhonor.com>
Message-ID: <A6E9D30E-4930-4095-BF6C-99C4FB89DC3B@mac.com>

Can you put me down for 4 of these too, please?

On Sep 20, 2009, at 11:00 PM, Jared Arave wrote:

> Digikey, TIP102TU-ND

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From scott at dixons.mailworks.org  Mon Sep 21 02:18:35 2009
From: scott at dixons.mailworks.org (Scott Dixon)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:18:35 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
	September 21st is the next group order
In-Reply-To: <2AB6C5F7-DA17-444F-A92E-48E96F0681F7@deathbyhonor.com>
References: <8bd790ac-f9d7-4513-97c5-531a2c21f8aa@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
	<2AB6C5F7-DA17-444F-A92E-48E96F0681F7@deathbyhonor.com>
Message-ID: <6B599F37-3298-495C-B362-FF1D18E7C2A2@dixons.mailworks.org>

Hey, that sounds good.  I'll take 5 of the TIP102s as well.
Thanks,
Scott
On Sep 20, 2009, at 11:00 PM, Jared Arave wrote:

> A bit late on the group order train, but I guess it is still  
> technically the 20th...
> price reduction on 102s, if anyone's been waiting to build that  
> cheap-o Arduino relay!
>
> Qty 50, Digikey, TIP102TU-ND,	$0.465
>
> Thanks!
> Jared
>
> On Sep 16, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Laen wrote:
>
>> It's that time again!
>>
>> http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/dorkbotpdx_group_ordering
>>
>> In this order, the usual suspects:
>>  Digikey
>>  Mouser
>>
>> ..and special guest:
>>     http://www.hobbypartz.com/ , featuring inexpensive servos,
>> lithium-ion batteries, radio control components, and robot parts.
>>
>> We'll be ordering a bunch of these:
>>    http://www.hobbypartz.com/kahaoubrmo14.html
>> ..and we might be able to swing a quantity discount.  No guarantees,
>> though.
>>
>> -Laen
>> _______________________________________________
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber


From richard.harding at gmail.com  Mon Sep 21 10:22:24 2009
From: richard.harding at gmail.com (Richard Harding)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 07:22:24 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
	September 21st is the 	next group order
Message-ID: <655fee110909210722r7ada5988rf3229c412f98a471@mail.gmail.com>

In addition to the previous (Digikey, Qty 10 LM1117MP-ADJCT-ND Adjustable
VR1.35  13.50 )

Digikey:

Qty 2      490-2647-1-ND    Trimmer SMD 20O      0.800     1.60
Qty 2      732-1050-1-ND    SMD Inductor              2.240     4.48
Qty 10    478-1654-1-ND    Tant Cap 10uf  1206     0.370     3.70
Qty 10    478-2399-6-ND    Tant Cap 1 uf  1206      0.870     8.70
Qty 10    495-2182-1-ND    Tant. Cap 22uf 1206     0.239     2.39
Qty 10    511-1498-1-ND    Tant. Cap 100uf 1206   0.653     6.53
Qty 10    P24.3HCT-ND      RES 0603 SMD          0.073     0.73
Qty 10    P121HCT-ND       RES 0603 SMD          0.073     0.73

Thanks

Richard
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From greg at grunest.com  Mon Sep 21 10:54:27 2009
From: greg at grunest.com (Greg Grunest)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 07:54:27 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
	September 21st is the next group order
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Laen,
Can I get:
Qty 10, Digikey, TIP102TU-ND,	$0.465
Qty 4, HobbyPartz, Servo_SG5010, $4.90


Thanks,
-Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
[mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of Scott Dixon
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:19 PM
To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)
Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday, September 21st is the
next group order

Hey, that sounds good.  I'll take 5 of the TIP102s as well.
Thanks,
Scott
On Sep 20, 2009, at 11:00 PM, Jared Arave wrote:

> A bit late on the group order train, but I guess it is still  
> technically the 20th...
> price reduction on 102s, if anyone's been waiting to build that  
> cheap-o Arduino relay!
>
> Qty 50, Digikey, TIP102TU-ND,	$0.465
>
> Thanks!
> Jared
>
> On Sep 16, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Laen wrote:
>
>> It's that time again!
>>
>> http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/dorkbotpdx_group_ordering
>>
>> In this order, the usual suspects:
>>  Digikey
>>  Mouser
>>
>> ..and special guest:
>>     http://www.hobbypartz.com/ , featuring inexpensive servos,
>> lithium-ion batteries, radio control components, and robot parts.
>>
>> We'll be ordering a bunch of these:
>>    http://www.hobbypartz.com/kahaoubrmo14.html
>> ..and we might be able to swing a quantity discount.  No guarantees,
>> though.
>>
>> -Laen
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From thomas at lockney.net  Mon Sep 21 11:49:25 2009
From: thomas at lockney.net (Thomas Lockney)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:49:25 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
	September 21st is the 	next group order
In-Reply-To: <2AB6C5F7-DA17-444F-A92E-48E96F0681F7@deathbyhonor.com>
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On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Jared Arave <jared at deathbyhonor.com> wrote:
> A bit late on the group order train, but I guess it is still technically the
> 20th...
> price reduction on 102s, if anyone's been waiting to build that cheap-o
> Arduino relay!
> Qty 50,?Digikey,?TIP102TU-ND, $0.465

Been meaning to pick up some of those for a while. Please put me down
for 10 as well.

From ddelmardavis at gmail.com  Sun Sep 20 23:44:40 2009
From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Delmar Davis)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:44:40 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] PR for ON Gallery show: Piece & Artist
	information please
In-Reply-To: <4AB31F8C.8020103@noisybox.net>
References: <10e900420909170928l7d7fac63je172a48a0a099f6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AB31F8C.8020103@noisybox.net>
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Sorry I am late with this.

1. Magic Window.
Donald Delmar Davis
The Ever Illusive Mixed Media.
The magic window is a pair of computers with cameras. One of which is  
presented as a window.
The camera on the with the window watches the observer and based on  
face detection reports the viewers position to the remote system.
The remote system repositions the camera so that the view corresponds  
to the viewer as if it were a real window.
(no photo currently avaliable)

2. Pink Fish (rev2).
Donald Delmar Davis
Etched Circuit Board, Leds Microcontroller.
Pinkfish is a piece based on the idea that the etched copper on a  
circuit board should have a sculptural or esthetic aspect.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2530/3808522753_0fb64e05ec.jpg
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On Sep 17, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Jason Plumb wrote:

> Benjamin Foote wrote:
>> - the name of your piece
>
> Workhorse :: pony mare bridle
>
>> - your moniker as you would like it to appear
>
> jason plumb
>
>> - one or two phrases describing your media
>
> (performance for) desk, electronics, computer.
>
>> - a (short!) blurb about the piece
>
> a random study on man-machine symbiosis, the specificity of language,
> and morbid repetition.
>
>> - a photo applicable to the work if you have one
>
> I don't have one, but I measured the desk and it's 5' wide by 31" deep
> by 30.5" tall.
>
> -jason
>
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From thomas at lockney.net  Mon Sep 21 12:01:47 2009
From: thomas at lockney.net (Thomas Lockney)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:01:47 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Getting Started with Microcontrollers workshop
	at OpenTechSpace
Message-ID: <7a05808a0909210901t4ed4e14bvcf8613203d3823ad@mail.gmail.com>

 ** Forwarding this along for our friends at OpenTechSpace:

This workshop is the first in a series of workshops on how to use
microcontrollers to, well, control things.

You?ve purchased an Arudino-compatible board or completed the Audino
Cult Induction, so now it?s time to make your board actually do
something. This monthly workshop covers simple but useful circuits to
connect to the pins and how to control those circuits using the
Arduino language.

The first workshop is on October 5 from 7 to 9pm at TechShop in
Beaverton. The class will be held in the upstairs classroom (the ?Hack
Hut?).

To sign up, go to http://www.pjrc.com/store/workshop.html

Cost of each workshop is $10. You will also need to have:

* an Arduino-compatible microcontroller board, such as the Dorkboard
from the Arduino Cult Induction (with the pins installed so you can
use it in a solderless breadboard), a Teensy, etc.

* a USB cable for your board

* a solderless breadboard

You can purchase a complete kit that includes all these (Teensy,
breadboard, USB cable, plus the first workshop), for $40 from the same
site. What a deal!

You should also bring a notebook computer with the Arduino software
installed, or come a half-hour early and we will help you install the
software on your computer. Finally, bring wire strippers/cutters and
some wire. We will have some multimeters, but feel free to bring your
own.

If you have any questions, email Paul Stoffregen ? paul at pjrc.com

From gunterhausfrau at gmail.com  Mon Sep 21 12:15:08 2009
From: gunterhausfrau at gmail.com (dan p)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:15:08 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
	September 21st is the 	next group order
In-Reply-To: <7a05808a0909210849g395aad66i89c28a296fbe9e16@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8bd790ac-f9d7-4513-97c5-531a2c21f8aa@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
	<2AB6C5F7-DA17-444F-A92E-48E96F0681F7@deathbyhonor.com>
	<7a05808a0909210849g395aad66i89c28a296fbe9e16@mail.gmail.com>
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Can I get 20? If I am too late, no biggy.

Thanks.

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Thomas Lockney <thomas at lockney.net> wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Jared Arave <jared at deathbyhonor.com>
> wrote:
> > A bit late on the group order train, but I guess it is still technically
> the
> > 20th...
> > price reduction on 102s, if anyone's been waiting to build that cheap-o
> > Arduino relay!
> > Qty 50, Digikey, TIP102TU-ND, $0.465
>
> Been meaning to pick up some of those for a while. Please put me down
> for 10 as well.
>  _______________________________________________
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From gunterhausfrau at gmail.com  Mon Sep 21 12:16:45 2009
From: gunterhausfrau at gmail.com (dan p)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:16:45 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
	September 21st is the 	next group order
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References: <8bd790ac-f9d7-4513-97c5-531a2c21f8aa@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
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	<7a05808a0909210849g395aad66i89c28a296fbe9e16@mail.gmail.com>
	<8e6971a90909210915r4776b100t421451f8b339766@mail.gmail.com>
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If I add this up, we are at 99 with a price break at 100.

if we are within 10 just bump up my order to put us over.

Dan.

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:15 AM, dan p <gunterhausfrau at gmail.com> wrote:

> Can I get 20? If I am too late, no biggy.
>
> Thanks.
>
>   On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Thomas Lockney <thomas at lockney.net>wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Jared Arave <jared at deathbyhonor.com>
>> wrote:
>> > A bit late on the group order train, but I guess it is still technically
>> the
>> > 20th...
>> > price reduction on 102s, if anyone's been waiting to build that cheap-o
>> > Arduino relay!
>> > Qty 50, Digikey, TIP102TU-ND, $0.465
>>
>> Been meaning to pick up some of those for a while. Please put me down
>> for 10 as well.
>>  _______________________________________________
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From scott at dixons.mailworks.org  Mon Sep 21 14:15:02 2009
From: scott at dixons.mailworks.org (Scott Dixon)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:15:02 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
	September 21st is the 	next group order
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	<7a05808a0909210849g395aad66i89c28a296fbe9e16@mail.gmail.com>
	<8e6971a90909210915r4776b100t421451f8b339766@mail.gmail.com>
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I'll be glad to take up to 5 more (in addition to the 5 I already said  
I wanted) TIP102s if you need more orders to make the price break.
Scott
On Sep 21, 2009, at 9:16 AM, dan p wrote:

> If I add this up, we are at 99 with a price break at 100.
>
> if we are within 10 just bump up my order to put us over.
>
> Dan.
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:15 AM, dan p <gunterhausfrau at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> Can I get 20? If I am too late, no biggy.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Thomas Lockney <thomas at lockney.net>  
> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Jared Arave  
> <jared at deathbyhonor.com> wrote:
> > A bit late on the group order train, but I guess it is still  
> technically the
> > 20th...
> > price reduction on 102s, if anyone's been waiting to build that  
> cheap-o
> > Arduino relay!
> > Qty 50, Digikey, TIP102TU-ND, $0.465
>
> Been meaning to pick up some of those for a while. Please put me down
> for 10 as well.
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
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> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
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From gunterhausfrau at gmail.com  Mon Sep 21 15:14:45 2009
From: gunterhausfrau at gmail.com (dan p)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:14:45 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
	September 21st is the 	next group order
In-Reply-To: <A7AAD846-2933-4FE3-BC8A-6682C1A45F74@dixons.mailworks.org>
References: <8bd790ac-f9d7-4513-97c5-531a2c21f8aa@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
	<2AB6C5F7-DA17-444F-A92E-48E96F0681F7@deathbyhonor.com>
	<7a05808a0909210849g395aad66i89c28a296fbe9e16@mail.gmail.com>
	<8e6971a90909210915r4776b100t421451f8b339766@mail.gmail.com>
	<8e6971a90909210916g3f56356ya0fad8b77791378e@mail.gmail.com>
	<A7AAD846-2933-4FE3-BC8A-6682C1A45F74@dixons.mailworks.org>
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think we can get to the next price break? Seems that with the upcoming class
about microcontrollers it would be a good time to stock up?



On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Scott Dixon <scott at dixons.mailworks.org>wrote:

> I'll be glad to take up to 5 more (in addition to the 5 I already said
> I wanted) TIP102s if you need more orders to make the price break.
> Scott
> On Sep 21, 2009, at 9:16 AM, dan p wrote:
>
> > If I add this up, we are at 99 with a price break at 100.
> >
> > if we are within 10 just bump up my order to put us over.
> >
> > Dan.
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:15 AM, dan p <gunterhausfrau at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > Can I get 20? If I am too late, no biggy.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Thomas Lockney <thomas at lockney.net>
> > wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Jared Arave
> > <jared at deathbyhonor.com> wrote:
> > > A bit late on the group order train, but I guess it is still
> > technically the
> > > 20th...
> > > price reduction on 102s, if anyone's been waiting to build that
> > cheap-o
> > > Arduino relay!
> > > Qty 50, Digikey, TIP102TU-ND, $0.465
> >
> > Been meaning to pick up some of those for a while. Please put me down
> > for 10 as well.
> > _______________________________________________
> > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> > dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
> >
> >
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> > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> > dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>
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From garnere at gmail.com  Mon Sep 21 17:10:09 2009
From: garnere at gmail.com (Eric Garner)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:10:09 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] DBPCB Fabrication Trial Run
In-Reply-To: <6b1e38ba-4cc5-4319-9b1b-09cbb73ec85d@r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
References: <6b1e38ba-4cc5-4319-9b1b-09cbb73ec85d@r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
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where (what company) are these being fabbed at?

also is silkscreen available?

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Laen <james.neal at gmail.com> wrote:
> As some of you know, we've been working on setting up a prototype PCB
> fabrication service for Portland's electronics artists, builders, and
> makers of things. ?This should be much like Sparkfun's BatchPCB
> service, except cheaper, and produced domestically.
>
> Well, good news, everyone! We're ready to do a trial run!
>
> To participate, just email me an Eagle .brd and tell me how many of
> copies you'd want if you had to pay $2.50 per square inch. ?(When this
> goes live, our actual pricing may be different, but for now pretend
> it's $2.50).
>
> Because we've never done this before and have no idea how it's going
> to turn out, this order will be free of charge, so PLEASE submit a
> board if you have something you want fabbed. ?I want to get a sense
> for the sizes of the boards, how efficiently we'll be able to
> panelize, and how popular the service is likely to be.
>
> You have until October 1st to place your order, and they'll be ready
> for pickup at the October 12th Dorkbot general meeting. ?If you won't
> be there, we can arrange for postal mail delivery.
>
> If you're using eagle, please use this DRU file (and email me or the
> dorkbotpdx-blabber list if you don't know what that means and want
> help setting it up):
>
> ?http://content.laen.org/dbpcb/DBPCB.dru
>
> Capabilities:
> ?8 mil minimum traces.
> ?8 mil minimum clearances.
> ?20 mil minimum drill size
>
> -Laen
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-- 
--Eric
_________________________________________
Eric Garner

From jmejia at tffenterprises.com  Mon Sep 21 17:39:15 2009
From: jmejia at tffenterprises.com (Jesse Mejia)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:39:15 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Group Order
In-Reply-To: <28f88b62-4370-4bcb-93bc-589c3fd16cb7@h14g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
References: <10e900420909170928l7d7fac63je172a48a0a099f6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<28f88b62-4370-4bcb-93bc-589c3fd16cb7@h14g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <web-12875635@mail.tffenterprises.com>

Hey Laen,

I'm gonna try to order these guys again:

qty 12 Digikey P3L2503-ND Panasonic 50k pots

If they're still backordered - could you just backorder them and we'll 
see what happens w/ shipping?

Thanks!

-Jesse

From gunterhausfrau at gmail.com  Mon Sep 21 17:45:00 2009
From: gunterhausfrau at gmail.com (dan p)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:45:00 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Suzo Happ group order.
In-Reply-To: <4AA9EDCA.9060308@noisybox.net>
References: <4AA9EDCA.9060308@noisybox.net>
Message-ID: <8e6971a90909211445x26a92b86le7ebdd7b045c3668@mail.gmail.com>

did your order go out? If not I might get a joystick. I have a few poundable
buttons from surplus gizmos, but no joystick for some future MAME cab.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Jason Plumb <jason at noisybox.net> wrote:

> I'm going to be buying a small number of parts from Happ
> (http://www.happcontrols.com/) this week and wanted to open this up to
> the group to share shipping for those interested.
>
> Happ is a very popular vendor of quality arcade machine parts, including
> joysticks, buttons, and a TON of other great amazing stuff.
>
> If you want a reliable, durable, poundable buttons, these things are
> great (what I'm mostly getting):
> http://www.happcontrols.com/pushbuttons/5896xxl.htm
>
> Tons of cool joysticks for your mame cab too: :)
> http://www.happcontrols.com/joysticks/joysticks_amusement.htm
>
> Because I'm not organized enough, this is orthogonal to the usual group
> order...but it will go out Monday and I should get it next week.  Lemme
> know....
>
> -jason
> http://noisybox.net
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From james.neal at gmail.com  Mon Sep 21 18:11:30 2009
From: james.neal at gmail.com (Laen)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:11:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] DBPCB Fabrication Trial Run
In-Reply-To: <fbddc0730909211410s75ce8edbj9cca582965b7a37a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6b1e38ba-4cc5-4319-9b1b-09cbb73ec85d@r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
	<fbddc0730909211410s75ce8edbj9cca582965b7a37a@mail.gmail.com>
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This one will be from Advanced Circuits in Colorado.   On future
orders, it'll be either Advanced Circuits or Sunstone, depending on
the size of the order.  Sunstone just has a smaller max panel size.

Silkscreen's available, but on the top only.

-Laen

On Sep 21, 2:10?pm, Eric Garner <garn... at gmail.com> wrote:
> where (what company) are these being fabbed at?
>
> also is silkscreen available?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Laen <james.n... at gmail.com> wrote:
> > As some of you know, we've been working on setting up a prototype PCB
> > fabrication service for Portland's electronics artists, builders, and
> > makers of things. ?This should be much like Sparkfun's BatchPCB
> > service, except cheaper, and produced domestically.
>
> > Well, good news, everyone! We're ready to do a trial run!
>
> > To participate, just email me an Eagle .brd and tell me how many of
> > copies you'd want if you had to pay $2.50 per square inch. ?(When this
> > goes live, our actual pricing may be different, but for now pretend
> > it's $2.50).
>
> > Because we've never done this before and have no idea how it's going
> > to turn out, this order will be free of charge, so PLEASE submit a
> > board if you have something you want fabbed. ?I want to get a sense
> > for the sizes of the boards, how efficiently we'll be able to
> > panelize, and how popular the service is likely to be.
>
> > You have until October 1st to place your order, and they'll be ready
> > for pickup at the October 12th Dorkbot general meeting. ?If you won't
> > be there, we can arrange for postal mail delivery.
>
> > If you're using eagle, please use this DRU file (and email me or the
> > dorkbotpdx-blabber list if you don't know what that means and want
> > help setting it up):
>
> > ?http://content.laen.org/dbpcb/DBPCB.dru
>
> > Capabilities:
> > ?8 mil minimum traces.
> > ?8 mil minimum clearances.
> > ?20 mil minimum drill size
>
> > -Laen
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> --
> --Eric
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From jason at noisybox.net  Mon Sep 21 18:37:29 2009
From: jason at noisybox.net (Jason Plumb)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:37:29 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Suzo Happ group order.
In-Reply-To: <8e6971a90909211445x26a92b86le7ebdd7b045c3668@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AA9EDCA.9060308@noisybox.net>
	<8e6971a90909211445x26a92b86le7ebdd7b045c3668@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB80029.3020601@noisybox.net>

dan p wrote:
> did your order go out? If not I might get a joystick. I have a few 
> poundable buttons from surplus gizmos, but no joystick for some future 
> MAME cab.

Yeah, it went out last Monday....sorry!

-jason

From ward at c2.com  Wed Sep 23 01:15:31 2009
From: ward at c2.com (Ward Cunningham)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:15:31 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] art and technology in portland
Message-ID: <06D2E343-D8EC-4B0B-A35C-97184111CB67@c2.com>

Friends -- Would you be interested in helping to launch a Wiki for  
Portland?

There will be an organizational meeting for just such an effort on  
October 7th. This would lead to a larger, more public organizing event  
a month later. I'm looking for help reaching out to the art and  
technology community to find those would could write and/or organize  
writing about these topics.

Drop me a line if you have even a mild interest. Feel free to pass  
this request on to others.

Thanks and best regards. -- Ward

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From jmejia at tffenterprises.com  Wed Sep 23 02:21:59 2009
From: jmejia at tffenterprises.com (Jesse Mejia)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:21:59 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Call for Oscilloscope help
Message-ID: <7D021F55-0965-4871-A91C-BB552D55F2D0@tffenterprises.com>

So I recently bought a scope off Craigslist. (Eico 460). Unfortunately  
it apparently broke after about 7 minutes of use. I was getting a nice  
crisp waveform from the internal oscillator - and then it just turned  
into a dim fuzzy/blurry barely moving blob. Most of the knobs seem to  
still affect said blob - but I can't get the blob to look like  
anything useful. I tried probing some audio in case it was just the  
internal tone generator that took a crap - but that didn't seem to do  
anything either. (Although the truth is I also have no idea what I'm  
doing)

Anyone know if this is possible to fix... or better yet - is anyone  
willing (or even excited!) to help me fix it?

I'm bummed to be out $50 - and I also love the way this thing looks -  
and would love to actually use it if possible. I don't know anything  
about scopes - seems like it could be simple... or maybe not at all.

Anyway - if you feel like lending a hand I'd be thrilled!

-Jesse

From wmark at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 23 03:12:35 2009
From: wmark at yahoo.com (William)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:12:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Call for Oscilloscope help
In-Reply-To: <7D021F55-0965-4871-A91C-BB552D55F2D0@tffenterprises.com>
References: <7D021F55-0965-4871-A91C-BB552D55F2D0@tffenterprises.com>
Message-ID: <354700.37043.qm@web112005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Blob makes it sound like focus, that'd be the knob in the upper right hand corner.  The intensity knob will make it brighter, but too bright and you'll burn the phosphor.  Does grounding the probe do anything, like clear up the blob to a point?

William



----- Original Message ----
From: Jesse Mejia <jmejia at tffenterprises.com>
To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx <dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:21:59 PM
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Call for Oscilloscope help

So I recently bought a scope off Craigslist. (Eico 460). Unfortunately  
it apparently broke after about 7 minutes of use. I was getting a nice  
crisp waveform from the internal oscillator - and then it just turned  
into a dim fuzzy/blurry barely moving blob. Most of the knobs seem to  
still affect said blob - but I can't get the blob to look like  
anything useful. I tried probing some audio in case it was just the  
internal tone generator that took a crap - but that didn't seem to do  
anything either. (Although the truth is I also have no idea what I'm  
doing)

Anyone know if this is possible to fix... or better yet - is anyone  
willing (or even excited!) to help me fix it?

I'm bummed to be out $50 - and I also love the way this thing looks -  
and would love to actually use it if possible. I don't know anything  
about scopes - seems like it could be simple... or maybe not at all.

Anyway - if you feel like lending a hand I'd be thrilled!

-Jesse
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From jmejia at tffenterprises.com  Wed Sep 23 14:10:34 2009
From: jmejia at tffenterprises.com (Jesse Mejia)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:10:34 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Call for Oscilloscope help
In-Reply-To: <354700.37043.qm@web112005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <7D021F55-0965-4871-A91C-BB552D55F2D0@tffenterprises.com>
	<354700.37043.qm@web112005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <web-12877528@mail.tffenterprises.com>

Yeah I played with the focus and intensity knobs quite a bit - they 
still seem to sort of work.. they just don't do much. The "blob" is 
also significantly dimmer than it was the first (and second) time I 
powered up the scope.

The third time it blob'd out on me after about 6-7 minutes - never to 
return to it's former glory.

-Jesse

On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:12:35 -0700 (PDT)
  William <wmark at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Blob makes it sound like focus, that'd be the knob in the upper 
>right hand corner.  The intensity knob will make it brighter, but too 
>bright and you'll burn the phosphor.  Does grounding the probe do 
>anything, like clear up the blob to a point?
> 
> William
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
>From: Jesse Mejia <jmejia at tffenterprises.com>
> To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx 
><dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:21:59 PM
> Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Call for Oscilloscope help
> 
> So I recently bought a scope off Craigslist. (Eico 460). 
>Unfortunately  
> it apparently broke after about 7 minutes of use. I was getting a 
>nice  
> crisp waveform from the internal oscillator - and then it just 
>turned  
> into a dim fuzzy/blurry barely moving blob. Most of the knobs seem 
>to  
> still affect said blob - but I can't get the blob to look like  
> anything useful. I tried probing some audio in case it was just the 
> 
> internal tone generator that took a crap - but that didn't seem to 
>do  
> anything either. (Although the truth is I also have no idea what I'm 
> 
> doing)
> 
> Anyone know if this is possible to fix... or better yet - is anyone 
> 
> willing (or even excited!) to help me fix it?
> 
> I'm bummed to be out $50 - and I also love the way this thing looks 
>-  
> and would love to actually use it if possible. I don't know anything 
> 
> about scopes - seems like it could be simple... or maybe not at all.
> 
> Anyway - if you feel like lending a hand I'd be thrilled!
> 
> -Jesse
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
> 
> 
> 
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From dorkbot at mersenne.com  Wed Sep 23 14:17:21 2009
From: dorkbot at mersenne.com (dave madden)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:17:21 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] dorkbotpdx-blabber Digest, Vol 39, Issue 17
In-Reply-To: <mailman.557.1253729479.139.dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org>
References: <mailman.557.1253729479.139.dorkbotpdx-blabber@dorkbot.org>
Message-ID: <1253729841.4705.22.camel@voodoo.mersenne.com>

On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 14:11 -0400, dan p <gunterhausfrau at gmail.com>
wrote:

> did your order go out? If not I might get a joystick. I have a few
> poundable
> buttons from surplus gizmos, but no joystick for some future MAME cab.

I have some spare joysticks (microswitch-style) that I could be
convinced to part with.  I built a MAME cabinet with a leaf-spring
joystick years ago.  It worked OK, but I never got around to putting in
a coin box, and it really needs a big monitor or LCD panel to look
right.  I think I have some spare buttons, too.  IIRC, I used some sort
of PS/2 button->keyboard adapter module to hook things up to the PC.

Actually, SWMBO would be delighted if somebody would take the whole
cabinet out of my garage...

d.


From dausmus at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 14:22:09 2009
From: dausmus at gmail.com (Doug Ausmus)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:22:09 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Call for Oscilloscope help
In-Reply-To: <web-12877528@mail.tffenterprises.com>
References: <7D021F55-0965-4871-A91C-BB552D55F2D0@tffenterprises.com>
	<354700.37043.qm@web112005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<web-12877528@mail.tffenterprises.com>
Message-ID: <307640010909231122v3db2eb83gbf0998e970191894@mail.gmail.com>

Check your high voltage supply and/or the final transistors that drive
the scope tube.
-Doug

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Jesse Mejia <jmejia at tffenterprises.com> wrote:
> Yeah I played with the focus and intensity knobs quite a bit - they
> still seem to sort of work.. they just don't do much. The "blob" is
> also significantly dimmer than it was the first (and second) time I
> powered up the scope.
>
> The third time it blob'd out on me after about 6-7 minutes - never to
> return to it's former glory.
>
> -Jesse
>
> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:12:35 -0700 (PDT)
> ?William <wmark at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Blob makes it sound like focus, that'd be the knob in the upper
>>right hand corner. ?The intensity knob will make it brighter, but too
>>bright and you'll burn the phosphor. ?Does grounding the probe do
>>anything, like clear up the blob to a point?
>>
>> William
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>>From: Jesse Mejia <jmejia at tffenterprises.com>
>> To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx
>><dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:21:59 PM
>> Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Call for Oscilloscope help
>>
>> So I recently bought a scope off Craigslist. (Eico 460).
>>Unfortunately
>> it apparently broke after about 7 minutes of use. I was getting a
>>nice
>> crisp waveform from the internal oscillator - and then it just
>>turned
>> into a dim fuzzy/blurry barely moving blob. Most of the knobs seem
>>to
>> still affect said blob - but I can't get the blob to look like
>> anything useful. I tried probing some audio in case it was just the
>>
>> internal tone generator that took a crap - but that didn't seem to
>>do
>> anything either. (Although the truth is I also have no idea what I'm
>>
>> doing)
>>
>> Anyone know if this is possible to fix... or better yet - is anyone
>>
>> willing (or even excited!) to help me fix it?
>>
>> I'm bummed to be out $50 - and I also love the way this thing looks
>>-
>> and would love to actually use it if possible. I don't know anything
>>
>> about scopes - seems like it could be simple... or maybe not at all.
>>
>> Anyway - if you feel like lending a hand I'd be thrilled!
>>
>> -Jesse
>> _______________________________________________
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From jmejia at tffenterprises.com  Wed Sep 23 14:56:58 2009
From: jmejia at tffenterprises.com (Jesse Mejia)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:56:58 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Call for Oscilloscope help
In-Reply-To: <307640010909231122v3db2eb83gbf0998e970191894@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7D021F55-0965-4871-A91C-BB552D55F2D0@tffenterprises.com>
	<354700.37043.qm@web112005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<web-12877528@mail.tffenterprises.com>
	<307640010909231122v3db2eb83gbf0998e970191894@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <web-12877597@mail.tffenterprises.com>

That scares me. Should I discharge the caps into a lightbulb or 
something before poking around?

Is it likely that I'll die either way?

-Jesse

On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:22:09 -0700
  Doug Ausmus <dausmus at gmail.com> wrote:
> Check your high voltage supply and/or the final transistors that 
>drive
> the scope tube.
> -Doug
> 
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Jesse Mejia 
><jmejia at tffenterprises.com> wrote:
>> Yeah I played with the focus and intensity knobs quite a bit - they
>> still seem to sort of work.. they just don't do much. The "blob" is
>> also significantly dimmer than it was the first (and second) time I
>> powered up the scope.
>>
>> The third time it blob'd out on me after about 6-7 minutes - never 
>>to
>> return to it's former glory.
>>
>> -Jesse
>>
>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:12:35 -0700 (PDT)
>> ?William <wmark at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Blob makes it sound like focus, that'd be the knob in the upper
>>>right hand corner. ?The intensity knob will make it brighter, but too
>>>bright and you'll burn the phosphor. ?Does grounding the probe do
>>>anything, like clear up the blob to a point?
>>>
>>> William
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>From: Jesse Mejia <jmejia at tffenterprises.com>
>>> To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx
>>><dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:21:59 PM
>>> Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Call for Oscilloscope help
>>>
>>> So I recently bought a scope off Craigslist. (Eico 460).
>>>Unfortunately
>>> it apparently broke after about 7 minutes of use. I was getting a
>>>nice
>>> crisp waveform from the internal oscillator - and then it just
>>>turned
>>> into a dim fuzzy/blurry barely moving blob. Most of the knobs seem
>>>to
>>> still affect said blob - but I can't get the blob to look like
>>> anything useful. I tried probing some audio in case it was just the
>>>
>>> internal tone generator that took a crap - but that didn't seem to
>>>do
>>> anything either. (Although the truth is I also have no idea what I'm
>>>
>>> doing)
>>>
>>> Anyone know if this is possible to fix... or better yet - is anyone
>>>
>>> willing (or even excited!) to help me fix it?
>>>
>>> I'm bummed to be out $50 - and I also love the way this thing looks
>>>-
>>> and would love to actually use it if possible. I don't know anything
>>>
>>> about scopes - seems like it could be simple... or maybe not at all.
>>>
>>> Anyway - if you feel like lending a hand I'd be thrilled!
>>>
>>> -Jesse
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
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>>
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From dausmus at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 15:06:54 2009
From: dausmus at gmail.com (Doug Ausmus)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:06:54 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Call for Oscilloscope help
In-Reply-To: <web-12877597@mail.tffenterprises.com>
References: <7D021F55-0965-4871-A91C-BB552D55F2D0@tffenterprises.com>
	<354700.37043.qm@web112005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<web-12877528@mail.tffenterprises.com>
	<307640010909231122v3db2eb83gbf0998e970191894@mail.gmail.com>
	<web-12877597@mail.tffenterprises.com>
Message-ID: <307640010909231206o7b99a760ke770d945210be116@mail.gmail.com>

yeah, if you don't have a high-voltage probe for you meter and you are
not familiar with working around high voltage, please don't do this-
get someone with experience and good safety habits to assist you. They
should have the proper equipment to do this safely.

Remember- the CRT itself is a high-voltage cap, too.
-Doug

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Jesse Mejia <jmejia at tffenterprises.com> wrote:
> That scares me. Should I discharge the caps into a lightbulb or
> something before poking around?
>
> Is it likely that I'll die either way?
>
> -Jesse
>
> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:22:09 -0700
> ?Doug Ausmus <dausmus at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Check your high voltage supply and/or the final transistors that
>>drive
>> the scope tube.
>> -Doug
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Jesse Mejia
>><jmejia at tffenterprises.com> wrote:
>>> Yeah I played with the focus and intensity knobs quite a bit - they
>>> still seem to sort of work.. they just don't do much. The "blob" is
>>> also significantly dimmer than it was the first (and second) time I
>>> powered up the scope.
>>>
>>> The third time it blob'd out on me after about 6-7 minutes - never
>>>to
>>> return to it's former glory.
>>>
>>> -Jesse
>>>
>>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:12:35 -0700 (PDT)
>>> ?William <wmark at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Blob makes it sound like focus, that'd be the knob in the upper
>>>>right hand corner. ?The intensity knob will make it brighter, but too
>>>>bright and you'll burn the phosphor. ?Does grounding the probe do
>>>>anything, like clear up the blob to a point?
>>>>
>>>> William
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>From: Jesse Mejia <jmejia at tffenterprises.com>
>>>> To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx
>>>><dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:21:59 PM
>>>> Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Call for Oscilloscope help
>>>>
>>>> So I recently bought a scope off Craigslist. (Eico 460).
>>>>Unfortunately
>>>> it apparently broke after about 7 minutes of use. I was getting a
>>>>nice
>>>> crisp waveform from the internal oscillator - and then it just
>>>>turned
>>>> into a dim fuzzy/blurry barely moving blob. Most of the knobs seem
>>>>to
>>>> still affect said blob - but I can't get the blob to look like
>>>> anything useful. I tried probing some audio in case it was just the
>>>>
>>>> internal tone generator that took a crap - but that didn't seem to
>>>>do
>>>> anything either. (Although the truth is I also have no idea what I'm
>>>>
>>>> doing)
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know if this is possible to fix... or better yet - is anyone
>>>>
>>>> willing (or even excited!) to help me fix it?
>>>>
>>>> I'm bummed to be out $50 - and I also love the way this thing looks
>>>>-
>>>> and would love to actually use it if possible. I don't know anything
>>>>
>>>> about scopes - seems like it could be simple... or maybe not at all.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway - if you feel like lending a hand I'd be thrilled!
>>>>
>>>> -Jesse
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>>>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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From mykle at mykle.com  Wed Sep 23 15:59:04 2009
From: mykle at mykle.com (Mykle Hansen)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:59:04 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Call for Oscilloscope help
In-Reply-To: <web-12877597@mail.tffenterprises.com>
References: <7D021F55-0965-4871-A91C-BB552D55F2D0@tffenterprises.com>
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On Sep 23, 2009, at 11:56 AMWednesday, Jesse Mejia wrote:

> That scares me. Should I discharge the caps into a lightbulb or
> something before poking around?
>
> Is it likely that I'll die either way?

eventually, yes.

-m-

---
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http://helpabeariseatingme.com


From jmejia at tffenterprises.com  Wed Sep 23 16:08:28 2009
From: jmejia at tffenterprises.com (Jesse Mejia)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:08:28 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Call for Oscilloscope help
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References: <7D021F55-0965-4871-A91C-BB552D55F2D0@tffenterprises.com>
	<354700.37043.qm@web112005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<web-12877528@mail.tffenterprises.com>
	<307640010909231122v3db2eb83gbf0998e970191894@mail.gmail.com>
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	<307640010909231206o7b99a760ke770d945210be116@mail.gmail.com>
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Anyone wanna help me play around with high voltage at the next Dorkbot 
meeting?

-Jesse

On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:06:54 -0700
  Doug Ausmus <dausmus at gmail.com> wrote:
> yeah, if you don't have a high-voltage probe for you meter and you 
>are
> not familiar with working around high voltage, please don't do this-
> get someone with experience and good safety habits to assist you. 
>They
> should have the proper equipment to do this safely.
> 
> Remember- the CRT itself is a high-voltage cap, too.
> -Doug
> 
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Jesse Mejia 
><jmejia at tffenterprises.com> wrote:
>> That scares me. Should I discharge the caps into a lightbulb or
>> something before poking around?
>>
>> Is it likely that I'll die either way?
>>
>> -Jesse
>>
>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:22:09 -0700
>> ?Doug Ausmus <dausmus at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Check your high voltage supply and/or the final transistors that
>>>drive
>>> the scope tube.
>>> -Doug
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Jesse Mejia
>>><jmejia at tffenterprises.com> wrote:
>>>> Yeah I played with the focus and intensity knobs quite a bit - they
>>>> still seem to sort of work.. they just don't do much. The "blob" is
>>>> also significantly dimmer than it was the first (and second) time I
>>>> powered up the scope.
>>>>
>>>> The third time it blob'd out on me after about 6-7 minutes - never
>>>>to
>>>> return to it's former glory.
>>>>
>>>> -Jesse
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:12:35 -0700 (PDT)
>>>> ?William <wmark at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> Blob makes it sound like focus, that'd be the knob in the upper
>>>>>right hand corner. ?The intensity knob will make it brighter, but too
>>>>>bright and you'll burn the phosphor. ?Does grounding the probe do
>>>>>anything, like clear up the blob to a point?
>>>>>
>>>>> William
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>>From: Jesse Mejia <jmejia at tffenterprises.com>
>>>>> To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx
>>>>><dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:21:59 PM
>>>>> Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Call for Oscilloscope help
>>>>>
>>>>> So I recently bought a scope off Craigslist. (Eico 460).
>>>>>Unfortunately
>>>>> it apparently broke after about 7 minutes of use. I was getting a
>>>>>nice
>>>>> crisp waveform from the internal oscillator - and then it just
>>>>>turned
>>>>> into a dim fuzzy/blurry barely moving blob. Most of the knobs seem
>>>>>to
>>>>> still affect said blob - but I can't get the blob to look like
>>>>> anything useful. I tried probing some audio in case it was just the
>>>>>
>>>>> internal tone generator that took a crap - but that didn't seem to
>>>>>do
>>>>> anything either. (Although the truth is I also have no idea what I'm
>>>>>
>>>>> doing)
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone know if this is possible to fix... or better yet - is anyone
>>>>>
>>>>> willing (or even excited!) to help me fix it?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm bummed to be out $50 - and I also love the way this thing looks
>>>>>-
>>>>> and would love to actually use it if possible. I don't know anything
>>>>>
>>>>> about scopes - seems like it could be simple... or maybe not at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway - if you feel like lending a hand I'd be thrilled!
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jesse
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>>>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>>>>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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From skinny at knowhere.net  Wed Sep 23 16:43:26 2009
From: skinny at knowhere.net (Brian Richardson)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:43:26 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Call for Oscilloscope help
In-Reply-To: <web-12877653@mail.tffenterprises.com>
References: <7D021F55-0965-4871-A91C-BB552D55F2D0@tffenterprises.com>
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Yeah, I'd be interested in watching someone do this.  There's always
warnings about playing with big caps and high voltage, so I've stayed
away.  It'd be fun to see someone doing that kind of work so I can see
what's involved!

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Jesse Mejia <jmejia at tffenterprises.com> wrote:
> Anyone wanna help me play around with high voltage at the next Dorkbot
> meeting?
>
> -Jesse
>
> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:06:54 -0700
> ?Doug Ausmus <dausmus at gmail.com> wrote:
>> yeah, if you don't have a high-voltage probe for you meter and you
>>are
>> not familiar with working around high voltage, please don't do this-
>> get someone with experience and good safety habits to assist you.
>>They
>> should have the proper equipment to do this safely.
>>
>> Remember- the CRT itself is a high-voltage cap, too.
>> -Doug
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Jesse Mejia
>><jmejia at tffenterprises.com> wrote:
>>> That scares me. Should I discharge the caps into a lightbulb or
>>> something before poking around?
>>>
>>> Is it likely that I'll die either way?
>>>
>>> -Jesse
>>>
>>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:22:09 -0700
>>> ?Doug Ausmus <dausmus at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Check your high voltage supply and/or the final transistors that
>>>>drive
>>>> the scope tube.
>>>> -Doug
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Jesse Mejia
>>>><jmejia at tffenterprises.com> wrote:
>>>>> Yeah I played with the focus and intensity knobs quite a bit - they
>>>>> still seem to sort of work.. they just don't do much. The "blob" is
>>>>> also significantly dimmer than it was the first (and second) time I
>>>>> powered up the scope.
>>>>>
>>>>> The third time it blob'd out on me after about 6-7 minutes - never
>>>>>to
>>>>> return to it's former glory.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jesse
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:12:35 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>> ?William <wmark at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Blob makes it sound like focus, that'd be the knob in the upper
>>>>>>right hand corner. ?The intensity knob will make it brighter, but too
>>>>>>bright and you'll burn the phosphor. ?Does grounding the probe do
>>>>>>anything, like clear up the blob to a point?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> William
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>>>From: Jesse Mejia <jmejia at tffenterprises.com>
>>>>>> To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx
>>>>>><dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:21:59 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Call for Oscilloscope help
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I recently bought a scope off Craigslist. (Eico 460).
>>>>>>Unfortunately
>>>>>> it apparently broke after about 7 minutes of use. I was getting a
>>>>>>nice
>>>>>> crisp waveform from the internal oscillator - and then it just
>>>>>>turned
>>>>>> into a dim fuzzy/blurry barely moving blob. Most of the knobs seem
>>>>>>to
>>>>>> still affect said blob - but I can't get the blob to look like
>>>>>> anything useful. I tried probing some audio in case it was just the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> internal tone generator that took a crap - but that didn't seem to
>>>>>>do
>>>>>> anything either. (Although the truth is I also have no idea what I'm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> doing)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone know if this is possible to fix... or better yet - is anyone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> willing (or even excited!) to help me fix it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm bummed to be out $50 - and I also love the way this thing looks
>>>>>>-
>>>>>> and would love to actually use it if possible. I don't know anything
>>>>>>
>>>>>> about scopes - seems like it could be simple... or maybe not at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway - if you feel like lending a hand I'd be thrilled!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Jesse
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>>>>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>>>>>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>>>>>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
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From paul at pjrc.com  Thu Sep 24 10:57:31 2009
From: paul at pjrc.com (Paul Stoffregen)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:57:31 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] shopping for a fancy oscilloscope
Message-ID: <4ABB88DB.3030108@pjrc.com>

For years I've avoided buying a fancy digital oscilloscope, but it looks 
like I really do need one for an upcoming project.  I mainly need a long 
record length and hopefully one with a fast/responsive user interface 
and doesn't have a noisy fan.

Does anyone have any advise what's available these days?  Or maybe know 
anyone who works at Tektronix?!


-Paul




From armatronix at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep 24 12:40:18 2009
From: armatronix at sbcglobal.net (Hans Lindauer)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:40:18 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] shopping for a fancy oscilloscope
In-Reply-To: <4ABB88DB.3030108@pjrc.com>
References: <4ABB88DB.3030108@pjrc.com>
Message-ID: <4ABBA0F2.8010505@sbcglobal.net>

Have you considered getting a front-end DAQ that allows you to use your 
computer as a scope?  My friend Minh who works at National Instruments 
lent me a little USB box that made me wonder why you'd really need a 
hardware scope in this day and age.  You can get something for as little 
as $150-200 that will allow you to analyze 8 signals at once.

I've been meaning to ask if anyone would like to see a demo at an 
upcoming meeting.  I'm sure Minh would be happy to come in and demo the 
hardware and software interface and show what it can do and what the 
various options are.

-Hans


Paul Stoffregen wrote:
> For years I've avoided buying a fancy digital oscilloscope, but it looks 
> like I really do need one for an upcoming project.  I mainly need a long 
> record length and hopefully one with a fast/responsive user interface 
> and doesn't have a noisy fan.
>
> Does anyone have any advise what's available these days?  Or maybe know 
> anyone who works at Tektronix?!
>
>
> -Paul
>   


From montyg at bittybot.com  Thu Sep 24 13:26:12 2009
From: montyg at bittybot.com (montyg at bittybot.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:26:12 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] shopping for a fancy oscilloscope
In-Reply-To: <4ABB88DB.3030108@pjrc.com>
References: <4ABB88DB.3030108@pjrc.com>
Message-ID: <20090924102612.tvn0tnxlpw8wok4w@secure28.inmotionhosting.com>

Paul,

Have you checked out Tek's MSO's?  2-4 analog channels and 16 digital  
channels:
MSO2000, 3000, or 4000 depending on your bandwidth needs:

http://www.tek.com/cgi-bin/compare/compare.cgi?cat=scopes&compare=MSO2000-DPO2000,MSO3000-DPO3000,MSO4000-DPO4000

Disclaimer: I work for Tek.

Monty


Quoting Paul Stoffregen <paul at pjrc.com>:

> For years I've avoided buying a fancy digital oscilloscope, but it looks
> like I really do need one for an upcoming project.  I mainly need a long
> record length and hopefully one with a fast/responsive user interface
> and doesn't have a noisy fan.
>
> Does anyone have any advise what's available these days?  Or maybe know
> anyone who works at Tektronix?!
>
>
> -Paul
>
>
>
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> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
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From dementedchihuahua at gmail.com  Thu Sep 24 14:15:24 2009
From: dementedchihuahua at gmail.com (Stanley Ames)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:15:24 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] shopping for a fancy oscilloscope
In-Reply-To: <4ABB88DB.3030108@pjrc.com>
References: <4ABB88DB.3030108@pjrc.com>
Message-ID: <6dbff3170909241115r4821b8f0me632e3b7064abe0c@mail.gmail.com>

Hans,

I would be interested in seeing a demo of that and learning more about it. I
haven't used a scope much--in some classes mostly--but I've dealt with
problems that would have been much easier with a scope at home. My problem
is the price. $150-$200 sounds doable on my budget. Would be very interested
to know more about it.

Stan

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Paul Stoffregen <paul at pjrc.com> wrote:

> For years I've avoided buying a fancy digital oscilloscope, but it looks
> like I really do need one for an upcoming project.  I mainly need a long
> record length and hopefully one with a fast/responsive user interface
> and doesn't have a noisy fan.
>
> Does anyone have any advise what's available these days?  Or maybe know
> anyone who works at Tektronix?!
>
>
> -Paul
>
>
>
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expedients, of delays, is coming to its close. In its place we are entering
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From dausmus at gmail.com  Thu Sep 24 14:21:41 2009
From: dausmus at gmail.com (Doug Ausmus)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:21:41 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] shopping for a fancy oscilloscope
In-Reply-To: <6dbff3170909241115r4821b8f0me632e3b7064abe0c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ABB88DB.3030108@pjrc.com>
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I have seen PC oscilloscopes of 2 channels 100 MSa/Sec for $160. While
that translates into (barely) a 50 Mhz scope (Nyquist), it should be
useful for many applications where you aren't working with too high
frequency signal components.
-Doug

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Stanley Ames
<dementedchihuahua at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hans,
>
> I would be interested in seeing a demo of that and learning more about it. I
> haven't used a scope much--in some classes mostly--but I've dealt with
> problems that would have been much easier with a scope at home. My problem
> is the price. $150-$200 sounds doable on my budget. Would be very interested
> to know more about it.
>
> Stan
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Paul Stoffregen <paul at pjrc.com> wrote:
>>
>> For years I've avoided buying a fancy digital oscilloscope, but it looks
>> like I really do need one for an upcoming project. ?I mainly need a long
>> record length and hopefully one with a fast/responsive user interface
>> and doesn't have a noisy fan.
>>
>> Does anyone have any advise what's available these days? ?Or maybe know
>> anyone who works at Tektronix?!
>>
>>
>> -Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
>> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>
>
>
> --
> The era of procrastination, of half-measures, of soothing and baffling
> expedients, of delays, is coming to its close. In its place we are entering
> a period of consequences.
>
> --Winston Churchill
>
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> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
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From paul at pjrc.com  Thu Sep 24 14:32:14 2009
From: paul at pjrc.com (Paul Stoffregen)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:32:14 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] shopping for a fancy oscilloscope
In-Reply-To: <4ABBA0F2.8010505@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4ABB88DB.3030108@pjrc.com> <4ABBA0F2.8010505@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4ABBBB2E.6060909@pjrc.com>

I'm skeptical this can really preform like a quality Tektronix or 
Agilent scope, but I would be curious to try it out.  I went over to the 
National Instrument's website and only found these two, which are a lot 
more than $200.  In fact, they're about the same price as the low end of 
stand-alone oscilloscopes.

http://sine.ni.com/nifn/cds/view/main/p/sn/n21:40,n24:USB/lang/en/nid/1037/ap/mi

Do you suppose the software works with Linux / Ubuntu ?  I didn't 
investigate too much, but got a windows-only impression.

I have two main concerns about a software-based scope.  First, can it do 
"near analog", like the better Tek and Agilent scopes can (Tek calls it 
"digital phosphor") where they process many thousands of waveforms per 
second and can give you a grayscale averaging effect like a real analog 
scope would.  My other main concern is the user interface.  Having a 
scope on the table right next to the electronics, with all the vertical 
scale/position and timebase knobs and various buttons right there is a 
big deal.  Having to reach over to the mouse/keyboard and interact with 
a GUI, even if it looks like a real scope, at least for me seems like 
it'd be pretty clunky.  Then again, maybe it's not that bad?


-Paul




Hans Lindauer wrote:
> Have you considered getting a front-end DAQ that allows you to use your 
> computer as a scope?  My friend Minh who works at National Instruments 
> lent me a little USB box that made me wonder why you'd really need a 
> hardware scope in this day and age.  You can get something for as little 
> as $150-200 that will allow you to analyze 8 signals at once.
>
> I've been meaning to ask if anyone would like to see a demo at an 
> upcoming meeting.  I'm sure Minh would be happy to come in and demo the 
> hardware and software interface and show what it can do and what the 
> various options are.
>
> -Hans
>
>
> Paul Stoffregen wrote:
>   
>> For years I've avoided buying a fancy digital oscilloscope, but it looks 
>> like I really do need one for an upcoming project.  I mainly need a long 
>> record length and hopefully one with a fast/responsive user interface 
>> and doesn't have a noisy fan.
>>
>> Does anyone have any advise what's available these days?  Or maybe know 
>> anyone who works at Tektronix?!
>>
>>
>> -Paul
>>   
>>     
>
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>
>
>   


From paul at pjrc.com  Thu Sep 24 14:40:18 2009
From: paul at pjrc.com (Paul Stoffregen)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:40:18 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] shopping for a fancy oscilloscope
In-Reply-To: <20090924102612.tvn0tnxlpw8wok4w@secure28.inmotionhosting.com>
References: <4ABB88DB.3030108@pjrc.com>
	<20090924102612.tvn0tnxlpw8wok4w@secure28.inmotionhosting.com>
Message-ID: <4ABBBD12.706@pjrc.com>

Those look awesome, and expensive!  All but the lower 2000's are beyond 
my price range, and even the low end 2000s are more than I was hoping to 
spend.  Nice as the 16 channel logic analyzer would be, I don't think I 
can afford it.

Is there anywhere in town I could go try one of the 2000s?


-Paul



montyg at bittybot.com wrote:
> Paul,
>
> Have you checked out Tek's MSO's?  2-4 analog channels and 16 digital  
> channels:
> MSO2000, 3000, or 4000 depending on your bandwidth needs:
>
> http://www.tek.com/cgi-bin/compare/compare.cgi?cat=scopes&compare=MSO2000-DPO2000,MSO3000-DPO3000,MSO4000-DPO4000
>
> Disclaimer: I work for Tek.
>
> Monty
>
>
> Quoting Paul Stoffregen <paul at pjrc.com>:
>
>   
>> For years I've avoided buying a fancy digital oscilloscope, but it looks
>> like I really do need one for an upcoming project.  I mainly need a long
>> record length and hopefully one with a fast/responsive user interface
>> and doesn't have a noisy fan.
>>
>> Does anyone have any advise what's available these days?  Or maybe know
>> anyone who works at Tektronix?!
>>
>>
>> -Paul
>>
>>
>>
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From montyg at bittybot.com  Thu Sep 24 14:50:48 2009
From: montyg at bittybot.com (montyg at bittybot.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:50:48 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] shopping for a fancy oscilloscope
In-Reply-To: <4ABBBD12.706@pjrc.com>
References: <4ABB88DB.3030108@pjrc.com>
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I'll see if I can bring one to the next meeting.

You might peruse the TekSelect offerings (used/reconditioned) too:
http://www2.tek.com/tekselect/tk_tekselect_extr.inquire?p_price_model=US%2FCANADA&p_product_type=Oscilloscopes%2C+Basic&userAction=&p_model_flex=

Monty

Quoting Paul Stoffregen <paul at pjrc.com>:

> Those look awesome, and expensive!  All but the lower 2000's are beyond
> my price range, and even the low end 2000s are more than I was hoping to
> spend.  Nice as the 16 channel logic analyzer would be, I don't think I
> can afford it.
>
> Is there anywhere in town I could go try one of the 2000s?
>
>
> -Paul
>
>
>
> montyg at bittybot.com wrote:
>> Paul,
>>
>> Have you checked out Tek's MSO's?  2-4 analog channels and 16 digital
>> channels:
>> MSO2000, 3000, or 4000 depending on your bandwidth needs:
>>
>> http://www.tek.com/cgi-bin/compare/compare.cgi?cat=scopes&compare=MSO2000-DPO2000,MSO3000-DPO3000,MSO4000-DPO4000
>>
>> Disclaimer: I work for Tek.
>>
>> Monty
>>
>>
>> Quoting Paul Stoffregen <paul at pjrc.com>:
>>
>>
>>> For years I've avoided buying a fancy digital oscilloscope, but it looks
>>> like I really do need one for an upcoming project.  I mainly need a long
>>> record length and hopefully one with a fast/responsive user interface
>>> and doesn't have a noisy fan.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any advise what's available these days?  Or maybe know
>>> anyone who works at Tektronix?!
>>>
>>>
>>> -Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From montyg at bittybot.com  Thu Sep 24 15:19:32 2009
From: montyg at bittybot.com (montyg at bittybot.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:19:32 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] shopping for a fancy oscilloscope
In-Reply-To: <4ABBBB2E.6060909@pjrc.com>
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Paul, how high of frequency are you expecting to probe?

Even those NI digitizers have pretty slow sampling rates (100MS/s) --  
typical recommendation for sampling rate is 5x your expected signaling  
rate.  For example, for a 50Mhz digital signal, you should shoot for  
at least 250MS/s to capture a reasonable representation of the signal  
transitions.  100MS/s will turn your square wave into a sine wave.

Monty








Quoting Paul Stoffregen <paul at pjrc.com>:

> I'm skeptical this can really preform like a quality Tektronix or
> Agilent scope, but I would be curious to try it out.  I went over to the
> National Instrument's website and only found these two, which are a lot
> more than $200.  In fact, they're about the same price as the low end of
> stand-alone oscilloscopes.
>
> http://sine.ni.com/nifn/cds/view/main/p/sn/n21:40,n24:USB/lang/en/nid/1037/ap/mi
>
> Do you suppose the software works with Linux / Ubuntu ?  I didn't
> investigate too much, but got a windows-only impression.
>
> I have two main concerns about a software-based scope.  First, can it do
> "near analog", like the better Tek and Agilent scopes can (Tek calls it
> "digital phosphor") where they process many thousands of waveforms per
> second and can give you a grayscale averaging effect like a real analog
> scope would.  My other main concern is the user interface.  Having a
> scope on the table right next to the electronics, with all the vertical
> scale/position and timebase knobs and various buttons right there is a
> big deal.  Having to reach over to the mouse/keyboard and interact with
> a GUI, even if it looks like a real scope, at least for me seems like
> it'd be pretty clunky.  Then again, maybe it's not that bad?
>
>
> -Paul
>
>
>
>
> Hans Lindauer wrote:
>> Have you considered getting a front-end DAQ that allows you to use your
>> computer as a scope?  My friend Minh who works at National Instruments
>> lent me a little USB box that made me wonder why you'd really need a
>> hardware scope in this day and age.  You can get something for as little
>> as $150-200 that will allow you to analyze 8 signals at once.
>>
>> I've been meaning to ask if anyone would like to see a demo at an
>> upcoming meeting.  I'm sure Minh would be happy to come in and demo the
>> hardware and software interface and show what it can do and what the
>> various options are.
>>
>> -Hans
>>
>>
>> Paul Stoffregen wrote:
>>
>>> For years I've avoided buying a fancy digital oscilloscope, but it looks
>>> like I really do need one for an upcoming project.  I mainly need a long
>>> record length and hopefully one with a fast/responsive user interface
>>> and doesn't have a noisy fan.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any advise what's available these days?  Or maybe know
>>> anyone who works at Tektronix?!
>>>
>>>
>>> -Paul
>>>
>>>
>>
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From armatronix at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep 24 15:44:09 2009
From: armatronix at sbcglobal.net (Hans Lindauer)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:44:09 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] shopping for a fancy oscilloscope
In-Reply-To: <4ABBBB2E.6060909@pjrc.com>
References: <4ABB88DB.3030108@pjrc.com> <4ABBA0F2.8010505@sbcglobal.net>
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I've cc'd this to Minh, so maybe he'll be able to address your questions.

What frequencies do you need to be able to sample?  My needs have always 
been more in the audio range, so I don't know much about high-frequency 
measurement.

Dedicated controls are certainly nice, you could probably make a 
controller with a teensy if it's worth the price difference.

-Hans


Paul Stoffregen wrote:
> I'm skeptical this can really preform like a quality Tektronix or 
> Agilent scope, but I would be curious to try it out.  I went over to the 
> National Instrument's website and only found these two, which are a lot 
> more than $200.  In fact, they're about the same price as the low end of 
> stand-alone oscilloscopes.
>
> http://sine.ni.com/nifn/cds/view/main/p/sn/n21:40,n24:USB/lang/en/nid/1037/ap/mi
>
> Do you suppose the software works with Linux / Ubuntu ?  I didn't 
> investigate too much, but got a windows-only impression.
>
> I have two main concerns about a software-based scope.  First, can it do 
> "near analog", like the better Tek and Agilent scopes can (Tek calls it 
> "digital phosphor") where they process many thousands of waveforms per 
> second and can give you a grayscale averaging effect like a real analog 
> scope would.  My other main concern is the user interface.  Having a 
> scope on the table right next to the electronics, with all the vertical 
> scale/position and timebase knobs and various buttons right there is a 
> big deal.  Having to reach over to the mouse/keyboard and interact with 
> a GUI, even if it looks like a real scope, at least for me seems like 
> it'd be pretty clunky.  Then again, maybe it's not that bad?
>
>
> -Paul
>
>
>
>
> Hans Lindauer wrote:
>   
>> Have you considered getting a front-end DAQ that allows you to use your 
>> computer as a scope?  My friend Minh who works at National Instruments 
>> lent me a little USB box that made me wonder why you'd really need a 
>> hardware scope in this day and age.  You can get something for as little 
>> as $150-200 that will allow you to analyze 8 signals at once.
>>
>> I've been meaning to ask if anyone would like to see a demo at an 
>> upcoming meeting.  I'm sure Minh would be happy to come in and demo the 
>> hardware and software interface and show what it can do and what the 
>> various options are.
>>
>> -Hans
>>
>>
>> Paul Stoffregen wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> For years I've avoided buying a fancy digital oscilloscope, but it looks 
>>> like I really do need one for an upcoming project.  I mainly need a long 
>>> record length and hopefully one with a fast/responsive user interface 
>>> and doesn't have a noisy fan.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any advise what's available these days?  Or maybe know 
>>> anyone who works at Tektronix?!
>>>
>>>
>>> -Paul
>>>   
>>>  


From greg at grunest.com  Thu Sep 24 16:42:05 2009
From: greg at grunest.com (Greg Grunest)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:42:05 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] shopping for a fancy oscilloscope
In-Reply-To: <4ABBA0F2.8010505@sbcglobal.net>
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Does anyone on the list have one of the sub $200 USB scopes?  I'd love to
see a demonstration at one of the meetings.  I tend to think that it would
be more of a logic analyzer than actually showing you waveforms.

Somebody buy one and bring it so I can play with it.  :)

Although, some of the functionality in the software especially because it's
PC based appears far better than stand alone logic analyzers I've used in
the past.

http://www.hobbylab.us/default.aspx - $169.00 & includes a logic generator

http://www.saleae.com/home/  - $149.00 Logic only. *soon* to be cross
platform /win/mac/linux   


-----Original Message-----
From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
[mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of Hans Lindauer
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:40 AM
To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)
Cc: Minh Tran
Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] shopping for a fancy oscilloscope

Have you considered getting a front-end DAQ that allows you to use your 
computer as a scope?  My friend Minh who works at National Instruments 
lent me a little USB box that made me wonder why you'd really need a 
hardware scope in this day and age.  You can get something for as little 
as $150-200 that will allow you to analyze 8 signals at once.

I've been meaning to ask if anyone would like to see a demo at an 
upcoming meeting.  I'm sure Minh would be happy to come in and demo the 
hardware and software interface and show what it can do and what the 
various options are.

-Hans


Paul Stoffregen wrote:
> For years I've avoided buying a fancy digital oscilloscope, but it looks 
> like I really do need one for an upcoming project.  I mainly need a long 
> record length and hopefully one with a fast/responsive user interface 
> and doesn't have a noisy fan.
>
> Does anyone have any advise what's available these days?  Or maybe know 
> anyone who works at Tektronix?!
>
>
> -Paul
>   

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From paul at pjrc.com  Thu Sep 24 16:52:47 2009
From: paul at pjrc.com (Paul Stoffregen)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:52:47 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] shopping for a fancy oscilloscope
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It's pretty rare for me to work beyond 20 MHz.  Often I'm doing stuff 
like 8 Mbit/sec SPI or 1 Mbit/sec I2C, so I definitely need much more 
than "audio only", but 50 MHz BW and 250 MS/s is probably enough for 
me.  I've mostly been looking at 100 MHz 1GS/s scopes.

More than anything else, I really want a long pre-trigger record 
length.  My common usage is "my code detected something went horribly 
wrong (much earlier) and toggled a pin to trigger", and of course I want 
to be able to scroll back and view all channels since the beginning of 
time!  Why nobody makes a scope with dozens of gigabytes of record 
length is a mystery? 1 to 10 million samples is all you can get, and 
even that costs a LOT.

I just looked at about a dozen of those usb scopes.  Many have pretty 
pathetically slow sample rates (only acceptable for audio).  Some aren't 
even much better than I could do with a Teensy and an opamp!

Some USB ones are amazingly expensive, considering the cheapest Tek 
scope is only $900 (for 500 MS/s) and lots of cheap but reasonably good 
brands are out there, like a BK Precision where 250 MS/s is $500.  But 
all the cheap ones scopes short record lengths like 2.5k, 4k or 10k 
points.  A few spendy usb ones do claim to have megabytes of buffer 
memory, but scant on details if really works like a pre-trigger record 
on a real scope.

On the low cost side, I did find this USB scope with 200 MS/s sample 
rate, though it appears to be only 1 analog channel (what the other BNC 
is for I still don't know, they call it "trigger out" which makes no 
sense to me).

http://www.linkinstruments.com/mso19f.htm

It's buffer size is only 1023 points, which also happens to be the 
maximum usb isychronous endpoint packet size.  Then again, it's only 
$250 and obviously has a fast FPGA and ADC inside and acts like a cheap 
logic analyzer and other stuff too.  But I really doubt it performs like 
a real long record scope.


On quick question on the Tek 2000's than I can find anywhere... is there 
a fan?  I saw 2 large vents on the back but it's not clear if it's 
convection or force air.  Fan noise matters a lot when I'm stuck on a 
difficult analog problem!  My last purchase was a low-end Protek dds 
function generator, which works pretty well.  It has a variable speed 
fan, but poorly designed cooling so after 5 min the fan always runs at 
max speed making it's a noisy monster.


-Paul




montyg at bittybot.com wrote:
> Paul, how high of frequency are you expecting to probe?
>
> Even those NI digitizers have pretty slow sampling rates (100MS/s) --  
> typical recommendation for sampling rate is 5x your expected signaling  
> rate.  For example, for a 50Mhz digital signal, you should shoot for  
> at least 250MS/s to capture a reasonable representation of the signal  
> transitions.  100MS/s will turn your square wave into a sine wave.
>
> Monty
>   


From dausmus at gmail.com  Thu Sep 24 16:59:08 2009
From: dausmus at gmail.com (Doug Ausmus)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:59:08 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] shopping for a fancy oscilloscope
In-Reply-To: <004201ca3d57$7c1d6230$74582690$@com>
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Here are some others that I found- I don't know anything about them or the
companies, just search results FYI. Your mileage may vary:

http://www.alikaelectronics.com/100msas-digital-storage-oscilloscope-dso2090-p-30.html

http://www.hobbyengineering.com/H1976.html

http://www.pc-oscilloscopes.com/42-oscilloscope.html

-Doug

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Greg Grunest <greg at grunest.com> wrote:

> Does anyone on the list have one of the sub $200 USB scopes?  I'd love to
> see a demonstration at one of the meetings.  I tend to think that it would
> be more of a logic analyzer than actually showing you waveforms.
>
> Somebody buy one and bring it so I can play with it.  :)
>
> Although, some of the functionality in the software especially because it's
> PC based appears far better than stand alone logic analyzers I've used in
> the past.
>
> http://www.hobbylab.us/default.aspx - $169.00 & includes a logic generator
>
> http://www.saleae.com/home/  - $149.00 Logic only. *soon* to be cross
> platform /win/mac/linux
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org
> [mailto:dorkbotpdx-blabber-bounces at dorkbot.org] On Behalf Of Hans Lindauer
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:40 AM
> To: A discussion list for dorkbot-pdx (portland, or)
> Cc: Minh Tran
> Subject: Re: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] shopping for a fancy oscilloscope
>
> Have you considered getting a front-end DAQ that allows you to use your
> computer as a scope?  My friend Minh who works at National Instruments
> lent me a little USB box that made me wonder why you'd really need a
> hardware scope in this day and age.  You can get something for as little
> as $150-200 that will allow you to analyze 8 signals at once.
>
> I've been meaning to ask if anyone would like to see a demo at an
> upcoming meeting.  I'm sure Minh would be happy to come in and demo the
> hardware and software interface and show what it can do and what the
> various options are.
>
> -Hans
>
>
> Paul Stoffregen wrote:
> > For years I've avoided buying a fancy digital oscilloscope, but it looks
> > like I really do need one for an upcoming project.  I mainly need a long
> > record length and hopefully one with a fast/responsive user interface
> > and doesn't have a noisy fan.
> >
> > Does anyone have any advise what's available these days?  Or maybe know
> > anyone who works at Tektronix?!
> >
> >
> > -Paul
> >
>
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From jlarson at pacifier.com  Thu Sep 24 17:52:30 2009
From: jlarson at pacifier.com (Jim Larson)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:52:30 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] shopping for a fancy oscilloscope
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Here's a few thoughts after reading a lot of responses:

- Don't confuse analog bandwidth with sample rate. If the signal is 
repetitive, then equivalent time sampling will work provided the 
bandwidth of the sampler is sufficient. This may not apply to Paul's 
needs since he wants a *long* record length that he can review when an 
event occurs.

- In line with Paul's needs, it sort of sounds like he really wants a 
logic analyzer. Many channels, deep record lengths and ability to look 
back in time. Usually that means an LA. The restriction is that the 
channels only care about 1 or 0, not an analog level.

- The challenge for high speed capture is to store what's captured. This 
means high speed memory which is not cheap and is power hungry. That's 
one reason record lengths are limited in scopes.

- When considering a Tek scope, don't forget their motto: You can buy 
better, but you can't pay more! ;)}



From paul at pjrc.com  Thu Sep 24 19:27:15 2009
From: paul at pjrc.com (Paul Stoffregen)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:27:15 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] shopping for a fancy oscilloscope
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>
> - In line with Paul's needs, it sort of sounds like he really wants a 
> logic analyzer. Many channels, deep record lengths and ability to look 
> back in time. Usually that means an LA. The restriction is that the 
> channels only care about 1 or 0, not an analog level.
>   

Yes, I want to have my analog cake and eat it too!  Digital channels 
would be nice also...


> - Don't confuse analog bandwidth with sample rate. If the signal is 
> repetitive, then equivalent time sampling will work provided the 
> bandwidth of the sampler is sufficient.

That works great if you have a pristine and perfectly repetitive 
signal.  If there's noise, mis-triggering screws it all up.  Analog 
scopes suffer from this too, though the phosphor doesn't ever run short 
on processing power to show you every possible sweep and your eyes are 
(usually) better ignoring obviously mis-triggered "ghost" sweeps than 
software which is dealing with a monitor/lcd refresh rate.

Virtually all stand-alone digital oscilloscopes have sample rates many 
times higher than their claimed signal bandwidth (1 GS/s is common for 
100 MHz BW, for example).  Only some very cheap brands (eg, "ezdigital") 
claim bandwidth even close, not to mention over, half their sample 
rate.  It's just not something you see in any respectable stand alone 
oscilloscope.

But in cheap USB scopes, this seems common practice.

> This may not apply to Paul's 
> needs since he wants a *long* record length that he can review when an 
> event occurs.
>   

For anyone who's considering spending "serious" money (be that $100 or 
$10000) on a digital oscilloscope, being able to reliably trigger on a 
particular event and capture a single shot record of what 
happens/happened is a pretty important feature.  Almost all projects use 
microcontrollers nowadays, where even very repetitive events can be 
different each time due to interrupts and other complex software.

I think some of these cheap usb things probably can sustain 10 or 20 
MS/s (20 MByte/sec if one 8 bit channel) to the PC if they're using a 
high speed chip... and I suspect many are based on the Cypress FX2.  
Many don't even sample that fast.  But I really doubt ones running at 
faster sample rates can really do meaningful single shot capture.


-Paul





From paul at pjrc.com  Fri Sep 25 15:37:39 2009
From: paul at pjrc.com (Paul Stoffregen)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:37:39 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] project photos with teensy
Message-ID: <4ABD1C03.301@pjrc.com>

Started a page for projects using teensy boards. 

http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/projects.html

If you've used a teensy and would like your project shown, website 
linked to, etc, just let me know and I'd love to add you.


Also, I have a small collection of teensy boards that have minor flaws 
but work fine.  We never sell such boards online.  If you'd like a fully 
functional if not-quite-perfect teensy[++] for $10, I'll have them at 
the meeting on Monday.  If any flaw does turn out to be a functional 
problem, I'll be happy to replace the board.


-Paul

From curator at ongallery.org  Sat Sep 26 16:37:45 2009
From: curator at ongallery.org (Benjamin Foote)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:37:45 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: 2009 October First
	Thursday at ON Gallery: Dorkbot!
Message-ID: <10e900420909261337r5b3a0306j66b82364c29afff5@mail.gmail.com>

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Show opening: "Dorkbot at ON"

First Thursday Opening 6pm - 10pm October 1st at ON Gallery
Show runs Thursday October 1st to Friday October 30th

ON Gallery welcomes projects from the Dorkbot community into the gallery for
October.

A sampling of the pieces in this group show includes....
*Voltage Village* by Laen*
* Electricity provides the spark of life in Voltage Village.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/68831973 at N00/2304649983
 *Codosome Hexis* by Ward Cunningham and Jim Larson
Interactive Video & Ink Jet Photography
*Bed (green fuse) *by Collin Oldham
An interactive sound-art installation
http://vimeo.com/6744880*

Hilbert Curve Coffee Table *by Simran Gleason
A coffee table made out of copper pipes in the shape of a Hilbert curve
*Pink Fish* by Donald Delmar Davis
Pinkfish is a piece based on the idea that the etched copper on a circuit
board should have a sculptural or esthetic aspect.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3362/3275517809_310e412e8d.jpg

*Virtual Windows* by Donald Delmar Davis
The magic window is a pair of computers with cameras. One of which is
presented as a window.
*Retina Tattoo Gun* by bzztbomb
This amazing device allows the user to imprint images on their retinas
for a small period of time!
http://noisybox.net/weblog/images/retinal_tattoo.gif
*Maxwell* by Mark Medonis
A humanoid robot head, telling you about this and that.

*You can't get there from here* by Thomas Lockney
a realtime display of the longest, most obtuse routes via TriMet

...and a few more.

Please come enjoy what occurs at the intersection of art and technology.

ON Gallery is proud to announce that Captured by Porches Brewing
Company<http://capturedbyporches.com/>is a sponsor for programs during
September and October 2009.

*About ON Gallery*

ON Gallery is a Portland Oregon art gallery and project space devoted to
contemporary interactive art and technology based arts.  ON is curated by
Benjamin Foote.

ON is part of the Everett Station
Galleries<http://pdxstump.com/site/Everett_Station_Lofts/240ef20a641037242ba9a03d>

ON Gallery
321 NW 6th Ave #101
between Everett &Flanders
http://ONgallery.org
curator at ongallery.org

*About DorkbotPDX*

DorkbotPDX is a community of creative types who enjoy experimenting, finding
art in technology and pushing the limits of whatever is in front of us. We
meet on an regular, informal basis every other
week<http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/meetings>.
We welcome you to join us at our gatherings and to bring something
interesting to view or ponder. Hands-on items (electrical, mechanical,
digital, aural, visual, or other) are highly encouraged!

http://dorkbotpdx.org


Benjamin Foote
http://pdxstump.com - a search engine and news aggregator for Portland
http://ONgallery.org - an art gallery for interactive media, First Thursday
openings
http://bnf.net - Linux and Java Consulting
ben at bnf.net
503-313-5379
@pdxstump on twitter
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From james.neal at gmail.com  Sun Sep 27 13:00:42 2009
From: james.neal at gmail.com (Laen)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:00:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] DorkbotPDX Open Lab - TODAY 9/27 1-5pm at PNCA
Message-ID: <0117850e-daee-4783-921d-a7ab55cfb9fa@v2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>

Dorks!  Open Lab TODAY (Sunday, 9/27) at PNCA.

Bring your toys, ideas, or expertise!

Now's a great time to bring a project that's been giving you trouble,
or to start something new.

1-5pm at PNCA in Northwest Portland, room 205.

See you there!

From james.neal at gmail.com  Sun Sep 27 14:40:38 2009
From: james.neal at gmail.com (Laen)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:40:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] DBPCB Fabrication Trial Run (Free! New
	due-date!)
In-Reply-To: <6b1e38ba-4cc5-4319-9b1b-09cbb73ec85d@r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
References: <6b1e38ba-4cc5-4319-9b1b-09cbb73ec85d@r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <bd655255-7859-4574-8bee-dc7a85673a8a@m33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>

Just to make sure everyone was clear on this, since it was kind of
buried in my original email:

This order is FREE.   I want to figure out how many people are
interested, and how much work it'll be to turn this into a monthly
offering.  To do that, I need your boards.  Your sweet, sweet,
boards.  Mmmm...

Also, I'm pushing back the due-date to October 5th to give everyone
more time to submit designs.  They'll still be here by the October
12th general meeting.

If you're out of area, or can't commit to being at the October 12th
meeting, send me your designs anyway.  I can postal mail them to you.

Again, the quick and dirty design rules are:
  8 mil traces.
  8 mil clearances.
  20 mil drills.
  top-side silkscreen.
  Soldermask on both sides.

Thanks!
-Laen

On Sep 16, 1:58?pm, Laen <james.n... at gmail.com> wrote:
> As some of you know, we've been working on setting up a prototype PCB
> fabrication service for Portland's electronics artists, builders, and
> makers of things. ?This should be much like Sparkfun's BatchPCB
> service, except cheaper, and produced domestically.
>
> Well, good news, everyone! We're ready to do a trial run!
>
> To participate, just email me an Eagle .brd and tell me how many of
> copies you'd want if you had to pay $2.50 per square inch. ?(When this
> goes live, our actual pricing may be different, but for now pretend
> it's $2.50).
>
> Because we've never done this before and have no idea how it's going
> to turn out, this order will be free of charge, so PLEASE submit a
> board if you have something you want fabbed. ?I want to get a sense
> for the sizes of the boards, how efficiently we'll be able to
> panelize, and how popular the service is likely to be.
>
> You have until October 1st to place your order, and they'll be ready
> for pickup at the October 12th Dorkbot general meeting. ?If you won't
> be there, we can arrange for postal mail delivery.
>
> If you're using eagle, please use this DRU file (and email me or the
> dorkbotpdx-blabber list if you don't know what that means and want
> help setting it up):
>
> ?http://content.laen.org/dbpcb/DBPCB.dru
>
> Capabilities:
> ? 8 mil minimum traces.
> ? 8 mil minimum clearances.
> ? 20 mil minimum drill size
>
> -Laen
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blab... at dorkbot.orghttp://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber

From paul at thelongs.ws  Mon Sep 28 00:00:57 2009
From: paul at thelongs.ws (Paul W Long)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:00:57 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] DBPCB Fabrication Trial Run (Free!
	New	due-date!)
In-Reply-To: <bd655255-7859-4574-8bee-dc7a85673a8a@m33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
References: <6b1e38ba-4cc5-4319-9b1b-09cbb73ec85d@r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
	<bd655255-7859-4574-8bee-dc7a85673a8a@m33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <4AC034F9.8080706@thelongs.ws>

OK... So here's the question: Let's say we aren't real active 
dorkbotters and we'll rarely ever use the service in the future but we 
still have some boards we'd like to get made better'n we can do it 
ourselves. Do you still want them submitted cause it will help you 
figure out whatever you need to figure out to get this running.

Or would it be like ordering samples from the chip houses for stuff you 
want to build but will never go into any sort of production?

Curious and clueless,

-pwl


Laen wrote:
> Just to make sure everyone was clear on this, since it was kind of
> buried in my original email:
> 
> This order is FREE.   I want to figure out how many people are
> interested, and how much work it'll be to turn this into a monthly
> offering.  To do that, I need your boards.  Your sweet, sweet,
> boards.  Mmmm...
> 
> Also, I'm pushing back the due-date to October 5th to give everyone
> more time to submit designs.  They'll still be here by the October
> 12th general meeting.
> 
> If you're out of area, or can't commit to being at the October 12th
> meeting, send me your designs anyway.  I can postal mail them to you.
> 
> Again, the quick and dirty design rules are:
>   8 mil traces.
>   8 mil clearances.
>   20 mil drills.
>   top-side silkscreen.
>   Soldermask on both sides.
> 
> Thanks!
> -Laen
> 
> On Sep 16, 1:58 pm, Laen <james.n... at gmail.com> wrote:
>> As some of you know, we've been working on setting up a prototype PCB
>> fabrication service for Portland's electronics artists, builders, and
>> makers of things.  This should be much like Sparkfun's BatchPCB
>> service, except cheaper, and produced domestically.
>>
>> Well, good news, everyone! We're ready to do a trial run!
>>
>> To participate, just email me an Eagle .brd and tell me how many of
>> copies you'd want if you had to pay $2.50 per square inch.  (When this
>> goes live, our actual pricing may be different, but for now pretend
>> it's $2.50).
>>
>> Because we've never done this before and have no idea how it's going
>> to turn out, this order will be free of charge, so PLEASE submit a
>> board if you have something you want fabbed.  I want to get a sense
>> for the sizes of the boards, how efficiently we'll be able to
>> panelize, and how popular the service is likely to be.
>>
>> You have until October 1st to place your order, and they'll be ready
>> for pickup at the October 12th Dorkbot general meeting.  If you won't
>> be there, we can arrange for postal mail delivery.
>>
>> If you're using eagle, please use this DRU file (and email me or the
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber list if you don't know what that means and want
>> help setting it up):
>>
>>  http://content.laen.org/dbpcb/DBPCB.dru
>>
>> Capabilities:
>>   8 mil minimum traces.
>>   8 mil minimum clearances.
>>   20 mil minimum drill size
>>
>> -Laen
>> _______________________________________________
>> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
>> dorkbotpdx-blab... at dorkbot.orghttp://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber

From james.neal at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 03:58:26 2009
From: james.neal at gmail.com (Laen)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:58:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] DBPCB Fabrication Trial Run (Free! New
	due-date!)
In-Reply-To: <4AC034F9.8080706@thelongs.ws>
References: <6b1e38ba-4cc5-4319-9b1b-09cbb73ec85d@r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
	<bd655255-7859-4574-8bee-dc7a85673a8a@m33g2000pri.googlegroups.com> 
	<4AC034F9.8080706@thelongs.ws>
Message-ID: <b99dcdb8-ce60-4ac6-89e8-6f242966ab09@r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>

On Sep 27, 9:00?pm, Paul W Long <p... at thelongs.ws> wrote:
> OK... So here's the question: Let's say we aren't real active
> dorkbotters and we'll rarely ever use the service in the future but we
> still have some boards we'd like to get made better'n we can do it
> ourselves. Do you still want them submitted cause it will help you
> figure out whatever you need to figure out to get this running.

Yeah, bring 'em on.  This is open to pretty much anyone.

> Or would it be like ordering samples from the chip houses for stuff you
> want to build but will never go into any sort of production?

What kind of monster would do that?! ;)

-Laen

From curator at ongallery.org  Mon Sep 28 14:37:15 2009
From: curator at ongallery.org (Benjamin Foote)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:37:15 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Volunteers needed for First Thursday
Message-ID: <10e900420909281137j41f1aaf8kca939f70b4bb7e92@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I have specific need for some volunteer support for First Thursday's opening
of the Dorkbot at ON show.

3 beer support helpers
7pm to 8pm
8pm to 9pm
9pm to 10pm

So last month a police officer stopped in near the end of the evening and
asked me to step outside.  During our chat he let me know that folks from ON
had been wandering around out front with beer.  And he asked me if I had
been checking IDs.  He took my info and said he'd be back to check on me.
So, I won't be surprised if he shows up this coming month.

The other piece of the puzzle is that it seemed like folks were much more
inclined to leave some dollars in the donations jar when someone was there
with the keg.

And for Artists and others in attendance please help me keep alcohol from
leaving the gallery, even if it walked in of it's own volition.  I'll
generally try to stay near the door and handle those situations and there
will be a sign posted.

And thanks again to CPB for sponsoring ON and providing us with their fine
beverages for September and October.

Please let me know if you can help out in this capacity for an hour.

Cheers,

ben


Benjamin Foote
http://pdxstump.com - a search engine and news aggregator for Portland
http://ONgallery.org - an art gallery for interactive media, First Thursday
openings
http://bnf.net - Linux and Java Consulting
ben at bnf.net
503-313-5379
@pdxstump on twitter
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From anselm at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 14:41:12 2009
From: anselm at gmail.com (Anselm Hook)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:41:12 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Volunteers needed for First Thursday
In-Reply-To: <10e900420909281137j41f1aaf8kca939f70b4bb7e92@mail.gmail.com>
References: <10e900420909281137j41f1aaf8kca939f70b4bb7e92@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2686af10909281141s4341e857x28ca9f578b93da17@mail.gmail.com>

I'll come down and help for a bit - not exactly sure when - would you
like a time slot?

me

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Benjamin Foote <curator at ongallery.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have specific need for some volunteer support for First Thursday's opening
> of the Dorkbot at ON show.
>
> 3 beer support helpers
> 7pm to 8pm
> 8pm to 9pm
> 9pm to 10pm
>
> So last month a police officer stopped in near the end of the evening and
> asked me to step outside.? During our chat he let me know that folks from ON
> had been wandering around out front with beer.? And he asked me if I had
> been checking IDs.? He took my info and said he'd be back to check on me.
> So, I won't be surprised if he shows up this coming month.
>
> The other piece of the puzzle is that it seemed like folks were much more
> inclined to leave some dollars in the donations jar when someone was there
> with the keg.
>
> And for Artists and others in attendance please help me keep alcohol from
> leaving the gallery, even if it walked in of it's own volition.? I'll
> generally try to stay near the door and handle those situations and there
> will be a sign posted.
>
> And thanks again to CPB for sponsoring ON and providing us with their fine
> beverages for September and October.
>
> Please let me know if you can help out in this capacity for an hour.
>
> Cheers,
>
> ben
>
> Benjamin Foote
> http://pdxstump.com - a search engine and news aggregator for Portland
> http://ONgallery.org - an art gallery for interactive media, First Thursday
> openings
> http://bnf.net - Linux and Java Consulting
> ben at bnf.net
> 503-313-5379
> @pdxstump on twitter
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>



-- 
- anselm at hook.org 415 215 4856 http://hook.org
http://twitter.com/anselm http://meedan.net http://blog.makerlab.org

From cameron at soycow.org  Mon Sep 28 14:43:17 2009
From: cameron at soycow.org (Cameron Adamez)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:43:17 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Volunteers needed for First Thursday
In-Reply-To: <10e900420909281137j41f1aaf8kca939f70b4bb7e92@mail.gmail.com>
References: <10e900420909281137j41f1aaf8kca939f70b4bb7e92@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9F154EBF-928B-48D9-A6EF-28CCD0D2DD00@soycow.org>

:D I can help!

On Sep 28, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Benjamin Foote wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have specific need for some volunteer support for First Thursday's  
> opening of the Dorkbot at ON show.
>
> 3 beer support helpers
> 7pm to 8pm
> 8pm to 9pm
> 9pm to 10pm
>
> So last month a police officer stopped in near the end of the  
> evening and asked me to step outside.  During our chat he let me  
> know that folks from ON had been wandering around out front with  
> beer.  And he asked me if I had been checking IDs.  He took my info  
> and said he'd be back to check on me.  So, I won't be surprised if  
> he shows up this coming month.
>
> The other piece of the puzzle is that it seemed like folks were much  
> more inclined to leave some dollars in the donations jar when  
> someone was there with the keg.
>
> And for Artists and others in attendance please help me keep alcohol  
> from leaving the gallery, even if it walked in of it's own  
> volition.  I'll generally try to stay near the door and handle those  
> situations and there will be a sign posted.
>
> And thanks again to CPB for sponsoring ON and providing us with  
> their fine beverages for September and October.
>
> Please let me know if you can help out in this capacity for an hour.
>
> Cheers,
>
> ben
>
>
>
> Benjamin Foote
> http://pdxstump.com - a search engine and news aggregator for Portland
> http://ONgallery.org - an art gallery for interactive media, First  
> Thursday openings
> http://bnf.net - Linux and Java Consulting
> ben at bnf.net
> 503-313-5379
> @pdxstump on twitter
>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber


From curator at ongallery.org  Mon Sep 28 15:49:39 2009
From: curator at ongallery.org (Benjamin Foote)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:49:39 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Dorkbot show at ON Gallery: Installation Times
Message-ID: <10e900420909281249i359c4c5er5929c5ac765d67ba@mail.gmail.com>

Artists of Dorkbot who are showing at ON:

If you could bring your piece between
5:30pm and 7:30pm Monday (this evening) just before the dorkbot meeting
or
5:30pm to 8:30pm on Tuesday
it would be much appreciated.

Plinths/tables/windowsills:  It looks like Plinths and places to put things
are at just a slight premium.  I imagine there will be a bit of rearranging
once all the work is here so it's difficult for me to confirm placement of
your piece.  If you have a table for your piece please do bring it.

If you have questions I'll keep an eye on the #dorkbotpdx IRC channel for
the next couple days (bfoote) or feel free to contact me otherwise.

Thanks again for your participation in the show,

ben

Benjamin Foote
http://pdxstump.com - a search engine and news aggregator for Portland
http://ONgallery.org - an art gallery for interactive media, First Thursday
openings
http://bnf.net - Linux and Java Consulting
ben at bnf.net
503-313-5379
@pdxstump on twitter
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From gunterhausfrau at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 16:56:10 2009
From: gunterhausfrau at gmail.com (dan p)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:56:10 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] allelectronics order?
Message-ID: <8e6971a90909281356x1f3598d7p494b9ba9f0e640a2@mail.gmail.com>

anyone interested in an http://www.allelectronics.com order?

I've been thinking about ordering some stuff from them, seems a shame to not
share the wealth (pain).

Dan.
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From curator at ongallery.org  Mon Sep 28 17:20:00 2009
From: curator at ongallery.org (Benjamin Foote)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:20:00 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] Dorkbot show at ON Gallery: Installation
	Times
In-Reply-To: <10e900420909281249i359c4c5er5929c5ac765d67ba@mail.gmail.com>
References: <10e900420909281249i359c4c5er5929c5ac765d67ba@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10e900420909281420l77b342b2me7dbce2e9d80d525@mail.gmail.com>

Oops,

I have a business networking function that I'm supposed to be at Tuesday
evening til seven.  I need to adjust the Tuesday install time to be 7pm to
9:30.

Please let me know if there is a problem with that adjustment.

Cheers,

ben

Benjamin Foote
http://pdxstump.com - a search engine and news aggregator for Portland
http://ONgallery.org - an art gallery for interactive media, First Thursday
openings
http://bnf.net - Linux and Java Consulting
ben at bnf.net
503-313-5379
@pdxstump on twitter



On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Benjamin Foote <curator at ongallery.org>wrote:

> Artists of Dorkbot who are showing at ON:
>
> If you could bring your piece between
> 5:30pm and 7:30pm Monday (this evening) just before the dorkbot meeting
> or
> 5:30pm to 8:30pm on Tuesday
> it would be much appreciated.
>
> Plinths/tables/windowsills:  It looks like Plinths and places to put things
> are at just a slight premium.  I imagine there will be a bit of rearranging
> once all the work is here so it's difficult for me to confirm placement of
> your piece.  If you have a table for your piece please do bring it.
>
> If you have questions I'll keep an eye on the #dorkbotpdx IRC channel for
> the next couple days (bfoote) or feel free to contact me otherwise.
>
> Thanks again for your participation in the show,
>
> ben
>
> Benjamin Foote
> http://pdxstump.com - a search engine and news aggregator for Portland
> http://ONgallery.org - an art gallery for interactive media, First
> Thursday openings
> http://bnf.net - Linux and Java Consulting
> ben at bnf.net
> 503-313-5379
> @pdxstump on twitter
>
>
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From james.neal at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 17:55:07 2009
From: james.neal at gmail.com (Laen)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:55:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
	September 21st is the  next group order
In-Reply-To: <655fee110909210722r7ada5988rf3229c412f98a471@mail.gmail.com>
References: <655fee110909210722r7ada5988rf3229c412f98a471@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <74e793a2-07e8-4ea2-bd9a-a10b7995f66c@k33g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>

Your total is $49.35 cash, or 51.08 by paypal (to
paypal at timestudies.skylab.org)

See you tonight!
-Laen

On Sep 21, 7:22?am, Richard Harding <richard.hard... at gmail.com> wrote:
> In addition to the previous (Digikey, Qty 10 LM1117MP-ADJCT-ND Adjustable
> VR1.35 ?13.50 )
>
> Digikey:
>
> Qty 2 ? ? ?490-2647-1-ND ? ?Trimmer SMD 20O ? ? ?0.800 ? ? 1.60
> Qty 2 ? ? ?732-1050-1-ND ? ?SMD Inductor ? ? ? ? ? ? ?2.240 ? ? 4.48
> Qty 10 ? ?478-1654-1-ND ? ?Tant Cap 10uf ?1206 ? ? 0.370 ? ? 3.70
> Qty 10 ? ?478-2399-6-ND ? ?Tant Cap 1 uf ?1206 ? ? ?0.870 ? ? 8.70
> Qty 10 ? ?495-2182-1-ND ? ?Tant. Cap 22uf 1206 ? ? 0.239 ? ? 2.39
> Qty 10 ? ?511-1498-1-ND ? ?Tant. Cap 100uf 1206 ? 0.653 ? ? 6.53
> Qty 10 ? ?P24.3HCT-ND ? ? ?RES 0603 SMD ? ? ? ? ?0.073 ? ? 0.73
> Qty 10 ? ?P121HCT-ND ? ? ? RES 0603 SMD ? ? ? ? ?0.073 ? ? 0.73
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard
>
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
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From james.neal at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 17:58:10 2009
From: james.neal at gmail.com (Laen)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:58:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
	September 21st is the next group order
In-Reply-To: <2AB6C5F7-DA17-444F-A92E-48E96F0681F7@deathbyhonor.com>
References: <8bd790ac-f9d7-4513-97c5-531a2c21f8aa@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
	<2AB6C5F7-DA17-444F-A92E-48E96F0681F7@deathbyhonor.com>
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Your total was $18 ($18.82 by paypal to
paypal at timestudies.skylab.org).

See you tonight!

-Laen

On Sep 20, 11:00?pm, Jared Arave <ja... at deathbyhonor.com> wrote:
> A bit late on the group order train, but I guess it is still ?
> technically the 20th...
> price reduction on 102s, if anyone's been waiting to build that cheap-
> o Arduino relay!
>
> Qty 50, Digikey, TIP102TU-ND, ? $0.465
>
> Thanks!
> Jared
>
> On Sep 16, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Laen wrote:
>
> > It's that time again!
>
> >http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/dorkbotpdx_group_ordering
>
> > In this order, the usual suspects:
> > ?Digikey
> > ?Mouser
>
> > ..and special guest:
> > ? ?http://www.hobbypartz.com/, featuring inexpensive servos,
> > lithium-ion batteries, radio control components, and robot parts.
>
> > We'll be ordering a bunch of these:
> > ? ?http://www.hobbypartz.com/kahaoubrmo14.html
> > ..and we might be able to swing a quantity discount. ?No guarantees,
> > though.
>
> > -Laen
> > _______________________________________________
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From james.neal at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 18:08:07 2009
From: james.neal at gmail.com (Laen)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:08:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
	September 21st is the next group order
In-Reply-To: <74e793a2-07e8-4ea2-bd9a-a10b7995f66c@k33g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>
References: <655fee110909210722r7ada5988rf3229c412f98a471@mail.gmail.com> 
	<74e793a2-07e8-4ea2-bd9a-a10b7995f66c@k33g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <cdaa2b14-a99b-4738-a633-4b03e2b3ac29@z24g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>

Damnit, sorry guys.  This wasn't meant to go to the list.

I meant to "Reply to author".    Running on too little sleep today.

-Laen

On Sep 28, 2:55?pm, Laen <james.n... at gmail.com> wrote:
> Your total is $49.35 cash, or 51.08 by paypal (to
> pay... at timestudies.skylab.org)
>
> See you tonight!
> -Laen
>
> On Sep 21, 7:22?am, Richard Harding <richard.hard... at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In addition to the previous (Digikey, Qty 10 LM1117MP-ADJCT-ND Adjustable
> > VR1.35 ?13.50 )
>
> > Digikey:
>
> > Qty 2 ? ? ?490-2647-1-ND ? ?Trimmer SMD 20O ? ? ?0.800 ? ? 1.60
> > Qty 2 ? ? ?732-1050-1-ND ? ?SMD Inductor ? ? ? ? ? ? ?2.240 ? ? 4.48
> > Qty 10 ? ?478-1654-1-ND ? ?Tant Cap 10uf ?1206 ? ? 0.370 ? ? 3.70
> > Qty 10 ? ?478-2399-6-ND ? ?Tant Cap 1 uf ?1206 ? ? ?0.870 ? ? 8.70
> > Qty 10 ? ?495-2182-1-ND ? ?Tant. Cap 22uf 1206 ? ? 0.239 ? ? 2.39
> > Qty 10 ? ?511-1498-1-ND ? ?Tant. Cap 100uf 1206 ? 0.653 ? ? 6.53
> > Qty 10 ? ?P24.3HCT-ND ? ? ?RES 0603 SMD ? ? ? ? ?0.073 ? ? 0.73
> > Qty 10 ? ?P121HCT-ND ? ? ? RES 0603 SMD ? ? ? ? ?0.073 ? ? 0.73
>
> > Thanks
>
> > Richard
>
> > _______________________________________________
> > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> > dorkbotpdx-blab... at dorkbot.orghttp://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
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From gunterhausfrau at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 19:29:51 2009
From: gunterhausfrau at gmail.com (dan p)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:29:51 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] [grouporder] Monday,
	September 21st is the 	next group order
In-Reply-To: <cdaa2b14-a99b-4738-a633-4b03e2b3ac29@z24g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>
References: <655fee110909210722r7ada5988rf3229c412f98a471@mail.gmail.com>
	<74e793a2-07e8-4ea2-bd9a-a10b7995f66c@k33g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>
	<cdaa2b14-a99b-4738-a633-4b03e2b3ac29@z24g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <8e6971a90909281629t263fdad0l266c683aa7f85ae7@mail.gmail.com>

no problems, I was a bit suprized when I saw my total was $50. I was
thinking "how many more were needed for that price break?"

thanks for putting the order together. Will see you tonite.
Dan.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Laen <james.neal at gmail.com> wrote:

> Damnit, sorry guys.  This wasn't meant to go to the list.
>
> I meant to "Reply to author".    Running on too little sleep today.
>
> -Laen
>
> On Sep 28, 2:55 pm, Laen <james.n... at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Your total is $49.35 cash, or 51.08 by paypal (to
> > pay... at timestudies.skylab.org)
>  >
> > See you tonight!
> > -Laen
> >
> > On Sep 21, 7:22 am, Richard Harding <richard.hard... at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In addition to the previous (Digikey, Qty 10 LM1117MP-ADJCT-ND
> Adjustable
> > > VR1.35  13.50 )
> >
> > > Digikey:
> >
> > > Qty 2      490-2647-1-ND    Trimmer SMD 20O      0.800     1.60
> > > Qty 2      732-1050-1-ND    SMD Inductor              2.240     4.48
> > > Qty 10    478-1654-1-ND    Tant Cap 10uf  1206     0.370     3.70
> > > Qty 10    478-2399-6-ND    Tant Cap 1 uf  1206      0.870     8.70
> > > Qty 10    495-2182-1-ND    Tant. Cap 22uf 1206     0.239     2.39
> > > Qty 10    511-1498-1-ND    Tant. Cap 100uf 1206   0.653     6.53
> > > Qty 10    P24.3HCT-ND      RES 0603 SMD          0.073     0.73
> > > Qty 10    P121HCT-ND       RES 0603 SMD          0.073     0.73
> >
> > > Thanks
> >
> > > Richard
> >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> > > dorkbotpdx-blab... at dorkbot.orghttp://
> music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
> >
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From ddelmardavis at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 07:24:59 2009
From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Delmar Davis)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:24:59 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] waveshield.
In-Reply-To: <cc2db5e5-bdd0-4a7b-90ba-fd57d82ddddc@k33g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>
References: <8bd790ac-f9d7-4513-97c5-531a2c21f8aa@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
	<2AB6C5F7-DA17-444F-A92E-48E96F0681F7@deathbyhonor.com>
	<cc2db5e5-bdd0-4a7b-90ba-fd57d82ddddc@k33g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <204CF5C1-6E88-4D10-A33A-152061532E96@gmail.com>

Does anyone have lady ada's waveshield? I need to try  and set  
something up today.

Don.

From brettn at teleport.com  Tue Sep 29 15:54:41 2009
From: brettn at teleport.com (brett)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:54:41 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] waveshield.
In-Reply-To: <204CF5C1-6E88-4D10-A33A-152061532E96@gmail.com>
References: <8bd790ac-f9d7-4513-97c5-531a2c21f8aa@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
	<2AB6C5F7-DA17-444F-A92E-48E96F0681F7@deathbyhonor.com>
	<cc2db5e5-bdd0-4a7b-90ba-fd57d82ddddc@k33g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>
	<204CF5C1-6E88-4D10-A33A-152061532E96@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1254254081.29635.0.camel@brett-desktop>

I've got one.  It's been built, but never tested.

Brett



On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 04:24 -0700, Donald Delmar Davis wrote:
> Does anyone have lady ada's waveshield? I need to try  and set  
> something up today.
> 
> Don.
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From ddelmardavis at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 15:57:08 2009
From: ddelmardavis at gmail.com (Donald Delmar Davis)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:57:08 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] waveshield.
In-Reply-To: <1254254081.29635.0.camel@brett-desktop>
References: <8bd790ac-f9d7-4513-97c5-531a2c21f8aa@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
	<2AB6C5F7-DA17-444F-A92E-48E96F0681F7@deathbyhonor.com>
	<cc2db5e5-bdd0-4a7b-90ba-fd57d82ddddc@k33g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>
	<204CF5C1-6E88-4D10-A33A-152061532E96@gmail.com>
	<1254254081.29635.0.camel@brett-desktop>
Message-ID: <9A7DE73C-493E-4464-8F30-69E747D5DFD4@gmail.com>

Cool! is there anyway I can get it today?

On Sep 29, 2009, at 12:54 PM, brett wrote:

> I've got one.  It's been built, but never tested.
>
> Brett
>
>
>
> On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 04:24 -0700, Donald Delmar Davis wrote:
>> Does anyone have lady ada's waveshield? I need to try  and set
>> something up today.
>>
>> Don.
>> _______________________________________________
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From jason at noisybox.net  Tue Sep 29 23:38:06 2009
From: jason at noisybox.net (Jason Plumb)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:38:06 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] allelectronics order?
In-Reply-To: <8e6971a90909281356x1f3598d7p494b9ba9f0e640a2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8e6971a90909281356x1f3598d7p494b9ba9f0e640a2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AC2D29E.6050903@noisybox.net>

dan p wrote:
> anyone interested in an http://www.allelectronics.com 
> <http://www.allelectronics.com/> order?

+1 from me.

I'm in the market for about 10 or more of these guys that Laen turned me 
on to:

https://www.allelectronics.com/index.php?&page=item&id=SAW-3&index=1

Laen: How about using All Electronics as our next bonus vendor?

-jason

From skinny at knowhere.net  Wed Sep 30 02:57:23 2009
From: skinny at knowhere.net (Brian Richardson)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:57:23 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] allelectronics order?
In-Reply-To: <4AC2D29E.6050903@noisybox.net>
References: <8e6971a90909281356x1f3598d7p494b9ba9f0e640a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AC2D29E.6050903@noisybox.net>
Message-ID: <7164e3620909292357v2563e2dct1f4493a4b3052f3@mail.gmail.com>

hah, yeah, I think I need some of those as well..

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Jason Plumb <jason at noisybox.net> wrote:
> dan p wrote:
>> anyone interested in an http://www.allelectronics.com
>> <http://www.allelectronics.com/> order?
>
> +1 from me.
>
> I'm in the market for about 10 or more of these guys that Laen turned me
> on to:
>
> https://www.allelectronics.com/index.php?&page=item&id=SAW-3&index=1
>
> Laen: How about using All Electronics as our next bonus vendor?
>
> -jason
> _______________________________________________
> dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
> http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
>

From dausmus at gmail.com  Wed Sep 30 11:58:22 2009
From: dausmus at gmail.com (Doug Ausmus)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:58:22 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] allelectronics order?
In-Reply-To: <7164e3620909292357v2563e2dct1f4493a4b3052f3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8e6971a90909281356x1f3598d7p494b9ba9f0e640a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AC2D29E.6050903@noisybox.net>
	<7164e3620909292357v2563e2dct1f4493a4b3052f3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <307640010909300858q53383a81k672bbef12a6dbd83@mail.gmail.com>

I might've missed something... are we planning a group order from
allelectronics.com also?

thanks-
Doug

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Brian Richardson <skinny at knowhere.net>wrote:

> hah, yeah, I think I need some of those as well..
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Jason Plumb <jason at noisybox.net> wrote:
> > dan p wrote:
> >> anyone interested in an http://www.allelectronics.com
> >> <http://www.allelectronics.com/> order?
> >
> > +1 from me.
> >
> > I'm in the market for about 10 or more of these guys that Laen turned me
> > on to:
> >
> > https://www.allelectronics.com/index.php?&page=item&id=SAW-3&index=1
> >
> > Laen: How about using All Electronics as our next bonus vendor?
> >
> > -jason
> > _______________________________________________
> > dorkbotpdx-blabber mailing list
> > dorkbotpdx-blabber at dorkbot.org
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From james.neal at gmail.com  Wed Sep 30 12:05:09 2009
From: james.neal at gmail.com (Laen)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:05:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] allelectronics order?
In-Reply-To: <8e6971a90909281356x1f3598d7p494b9ba9f0e640a2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8e6971a90909281356x1f3598d7p494b9ba9f0e640a2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ce5448cf-1e23-4a8e-9c3a-11de44f76378@k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>

I'd be happy to make it a bonus vendor on the next group order, if
you'd like..

-Laen

On Sep 28, 1:56?pm, dan p <gunterhausf... at gmail.com> wrote:
> anyone interested in anhttp://www.allelectronics.comorder?
>
> I've been thinking about ordering some stuff from them, seems a shame to not
> share the wealth (pain).
>
> Dan.
>
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From gunterhausfrau at gmail.com  Wed Sep 30 16:57:23 2009
From: gunterhausfrau at gmail.com (dan p)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:57:23 -0700
Subject: [dorkbotpdx-blabber] allelectronics order?
In-Reply-To: <ce5448cf-1e23-4a8e-9c3a-11de44f76378@k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>
References: <8e6971a90909281356x1f3598d7p494b9ba9f0e640a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<ce5448cf-1e23-4a8e-9c3a-11de44f76378@k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <8e6971a90909301357k46bab075i126aa0499a070fc2@mail.gmail.com>

fine by me, but it wasn't my intention to volunteer you. I was basically
volunteering myself, like I did with the Lady Ada order, but I would be more
than happy to keep all the group order stuff in the same capable hands (I
know myself, I'll mess it up)

So, if you feel like taking it on, please do, if not I'll likely do one at
some point in the next week or two.

Thanks for doing the group orders.
Dan.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Laen <james.neal at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd be happy to make it a bonus vendor on the next group order, if
> you'd like..
>
> -Laen
>
> On Sep 28, 1:56 pm, dan p <gunterhausf... at gmail.com> wrote:
> > anyone interested in anhttp://www.allelectronics.comorder?
> >
> > I've been thinking about ordering some stuff from them, seems a shame to
> not
> > share the wealth (pain).
> >
> > Dan.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotpdx-blabber
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