[dorkbotsea-blabber] Re: Hives and central control

Kevin Purcell kevinpurcell at pobox.com
Wed Sep 10 19:12:05 EDT 2008


Ah, I missed that critical bit.

Obviously I really need a hive mind to outsource some of my weak- 
mined thinking.

Thanks for you sense of humor :-)

On Sep 9, 2008, at 5:56 PM, William Beaty wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Kevin wrote:
>
>> I missed the smilie in the post below ... I think you confusing the
>> Borg with a hive :-)
>
> You are opposed to the will of LANDRU?
>
> You are not of the body!
>
>
> (Multiple cyranoid is not a real hive; actually it's a hive costume  
> for
> fifty people, for halloween!)
>
> PS,  festival, FESTIIVAAAAAAAL!
>   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Return_of_the_Archons
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Sep 9, 2008, at 1:06 PM, William Beaty wrote:
>>> I've always wanted to create a hive-mind party.  A REAL hive-mind
>>> party,
>>> with guests becoming a (simulated) groupmind.  Well, actually a
>>> hive-body
>>> with a single brain.  Everyone wears a cheap FM radio earphone.  One
>>> person with an FM mike will transmit commands like:
>>>
>>>   Everyone stop talkinnnnnnng... NOW.            ...OK, talk again.
>>>
>>>   Everyone take one step towards the drinks table... three two one
>>> NOW.
>>>
>>>   We're all going to breath in unison for awhile.  in...   out...
>>> in... out
>>>
>>>   Quietly...  "We are Seattlites  Resistance is futile You will be
>>> assimilated"
>>>
>>>   Newcomers have entered.  Turn and face them...  NOW!         ok
>>> turn away.
>>>
>>>   Everyone file outside.  We're going to lift and move an Echo
>>> hatchback.
>>>
>>>
>>> This should be very weird for participants.  And terrifying for
>>> unsuspecting
>>> newcomers.
>>>
>>> Hmmmm.  Would it be too much to ask that participants all dress in
>>> black?
>>> Hipster/artist self-satire; trying to be different by BEING EXACTLY
>>> THE
>>> SAME.  :)  I bet we could hire out "this body" as performance art  
>>> for
>>> large company parties.
>>>
>>> More below:
>>>
>>> (((((((((((((((((( ( (  (   (    (O)    )   )  ) ) ))))))))))))))))) 
>>> ))
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyranoid
>>>
>>> Build a Borg
>>> http://amasci.com/hoax.html#cyranoid
>>> The Yale psychologist Stanley Milgram discovered what he called the
>>> "Cyrano Effect", and experimented with strange group-organism he
>>> dubbed
>>> "Cyranoids." Build one as follows: provide the "brain person" with
>>> a radio
>>> transmitter. Give a radio receiver and earphone to a second or "body
>>> person," then have the 'body' agree to carry out all orders spoken
>>> by the
>>> distant 'brain.' Even better would be a video RF link so the
>>> 'brain' can
>>> see and hear through the 'body's' eyes, and maybe add a radio  
>>> channel
>>> which controls vibrating transducers on the 'body' person, so  
>>> that the
>>> 'brain' can silently command their movements with a joystick rather
>>> than
>>> verbally. If one 'brain' runs several 'bodies,' you've got the
>>> start of a
>>> small Borg civilization! If you could rent the equipment for  
>>> cocktail
>>> parties, would you pay more to be an amoral central controller, or a
>>> brainless puppet who might do ANYTHING?
>>>
>>> The same psychologist discovered the power of this closed causality
>>> loop
>>> common in World War II:
>>>
>>>     * NOT MY FAULT, ONLY FOLLOWING ORDERS.
>>>     * ONLY GAVE ORDERS, DID NOTHING MYSELF.
>>>
>>> This can be used to convert a pair of people into a psychopath.
>>>
>>> Responsibility for actions becomes a closed loop and evaporates.
>>> Ordinary
>>> "good" people can be convinced to give lethal shocks if a superior
>>> authority figure gives the orders and SEEMS to take  
>>> responsibility. If
>>> anything bad happens, both people are certain it was the OTHER
>>> person's
>>> fault. As a consequence, the radio-controlled 'Cyranoid' pair is  
>>> very
>>> dangerous. So David Letterman has built himself one? Just wait
>>> until Dave
>>> gives an unwise order to his puppet and finds that the person  
>>> ACTUALLY
>>> CARRIES IT OUT! The 'slave' trusts the 'master' to give only benign
>>> orders
>>> and stops thinking, but the 'master' may order something terrible,
>>> just to
>>> see how far the 'slave' will go. When Letterman's slave commits a
>>> crime,
>>> whose fault will it be, the one who only followed orders, or the
>>> one who
>>> did nothing himself?
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>> --
>> Kevin Purcell
>> kevinpurcell at pobox.com
>>
>>
>
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> William J. Beaty                            SCIENCE HOBBYIST website
> billb at amasci com                         http://amasci.com
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