[linux-audio-user] Unnecessary Services

Russell Hanaghan hanaghan at starband.net
Thu Dec 30 23:08:49 EST 2004


Russell Hanaghan wrote:

> Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 17:08, Russell Hanaghan wrote:
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>>> tim hall wrote:
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>>>> Last Thursday 30 December 2004 06:34, Bill & Kath Worsfold "Songs" 
>>>> was like:
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>>>>> Should I get DeMuDi, or can I make the music applications work with
>>>>> Mandrake? Is latency the main issue to watch out for, or are there
>>>>> others I'm not aware of?
>>>>>       
>>>>
>>>> I'd seriously recommend DeMuDi-1.2.0
>>>> http://download.agnula.org/1.2/1.2.0/demudi_1.2.0_i386.iso
>>>> Probably the easiest install so long as you know your hardware 
>>>> doesn't need to use non-free drivers.
>>>>
>>>> Just for balance I have to say that PlanetCCRMA is also worth 
>>>> looking at.
>>>> http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/
>>>> Mandrake also works well with thac's rpms;
>>>> http://rpm.nyvalls.se/index10.0.html
>>>> http://rpm.nyvalls.se/sound10.0.html
>>>> Mandrake doesn't use apt, so it can be slightly more fiddly for 
>>>> Linux newbies to install all the music apps. If you already know 
>>>> you prefer Mandrake, then stick with it. You should have access to 
>>>> a similar range of software.
>>>>
>>>> It's probably best to get a working system going with most of the 
>>>> available Linux Audio packages. If you use one of the 
>>>> music-oriented distros then you can let people like Free Ekanayaka, 
>>>> Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano, Thac and the rest of the LADs who 
>>>> populate these lists worry about things like latency issues for 
>>>> you. It's hard to talk about these things in the abstract.
>>>>
>>>> Have Fun.
>>>>
>>>> tim hall
>>>> http://glastonburymusic.org.uk
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>
>>> The AGNULA folks need to do some serious updating to their website?? 
>>> Unless all they have is 7 audio applications...I assume there is 
>>> more recent stuff in a repository somewhere?
>>>
>>> I use Mandrake and Thac's but it is a bit of a pain at the moment 
>>> with the 2.6 kernel stuff and the latest distro is not likely to 
>>> work at all with the 2.4 kernel.
>>>
>>> I've been tempted many times to try CCRMA but untill someone can 
>>> spout a reliable RT kernel in packaged form with all the most recent 
>>> updates, whatever the distro may be,  I don't want to try anything new.
>>>   
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>> [I don't understand the 'I don't want to try anything new' part... :-]
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> :) Kind of a contradiction considering where I'm writing to...
>
> What I mean is, I need that production box to work. So before I go 
> mess it all up, I want something stable ~ ish. At least as stable as 
> the mdk 2.6.7-mm.7 kernel has been.
>
>> Ha, a "reliable RT kernel" does not really exist at this point in time
>> (IMHO). The best low latency performance in the 2.6.x series can only be
>> obtained by using Ingo Molnar's realtime preempt patch. The latest
>> version (and maybe also the underlying 2.6.10-rc3-mm1 as well) is not a
>> model of stability... But when it works, it works very well indeed.  
>>
> ""reliable RT kernel" does not really exist at this point in time(IMHO)"
>
> It would seem this is true. But the 2.4 kernel was stable and 
> reliable. I'm sure 2.6 will get there too, even if it is 20 releases 
> away.
>
>> Check out the top entries at the Planet CCRMA log:
>>  http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/changelog.html
>> There are now a couple of new kernels there, both bleeding edge (with
>> the realtime preempt patch version 0.7.33-04) and conservative (vanilla
>> 2.6.10).
>> -- Fernando
>>  
>>
> Do these have the Realtime-lsm patch too? I don't want to run as root. 
> Give's me the willies! :)
>
> R~


Never mind...read the website.

WHat i dont see is how far into the FC3 builds you are? I see one failed 
build that you list...I wouldnt mind testing it out.

Sure would be nice to get a "bare bones" install disk of the OS instead 
of the bloated disks like Mdk does.  Makes no sense to me...majority of 
geeks that use Linux in the first place have a broadband connection of 
somekind. Most distros provide all updates via online anyway...why have 
fifteen install CD's? </rant>  

 Time to take my meds! :)

Cheers

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