[linux-audio-user] [ANN] wiki.freeaudiosoftware.org online

Esben Stien b0ef at esben-stien.name
Mon Aug 29 14:32:01 EDT 2005

Randy Kramer <rhkramer at gmail.com> writes:

> for most definitions of public, this wiki is public (but does
> require registration).

Maybe it is, but I don't think it's public enough when you have to be
part of a group.

I don't think this is the way of the wiki-fu. A wiki is supposed to be
quick and informal; something I can't get to fit with registration. No
matter how you argue it, you still spend some amount of time on it
(becoming part of the group and identifying to it). This initial
process of registration is enough to make many additions to the wiki
not put up. You loose the vibe and have to do something that is really
not necessary.

Someone from the public should be able to just snap in without being
part of a group (registered)

I think putting up registration as a way to get less spam is the wrong
way of attacking the problem. 

> Will the forum be public? 

Yes, I see no point in having any registration for something like
writing on a blackboard (below those who wrote something there

You should not be able to edit a forum. You may choose to mark the
entry as editable with a password; I see nothing wrong with options.

> Will registration be required to post? 


> Will registration be required to read?)


> Is the linux-audio-users mail list public?  (Is registration
> required?)

Public postings are not allowed. Maybe it would be better you say
anonymous- or non registered postings are not allowed.

I can't really argue that it's not public as I'm here and I'm part of
the public. 

I don't know what else to call it, really, but it's not enough public,
in my opinion. I think it should be gateway'ed to a newsserver and
that public posting should be allowed.

Just like that kid the other day, with the SRC question. It's really
bad that he had to first register just to post 3 posts and then
leave. If it was really public, he could have just sent the mail to
the list. I think registration is a barrier many times and that we
loose more than we gain.

The option of a mailinglist surely requires that you register your
email; how else would the mails arrive?

It's the wrong way to attack the problem of spam by putting up
registration requirement, in my opinion. If spam gets through your
filters, there is something wrong with your filters and you should fix
them. You can never stop the concept of people sending you things. 

> Is a moderated mail list public or private?

Well, a public list can really not be filtered in any way by any other
person than yourself. You need to get everything that was posted to
this public list.

> Is a mail list that only "publishes" posts from registered "members" (on which 
> there are no or very few restrictions) public or private?

Like I said before, it really can't be a public list if you can't see
everything that was posted by the public. Any content filtered in a
public fora should be available so a list that has a filter before it
reaches the public cannot be considered public, in my opinion. 

A wiki would have these data available so that you may read the viagra
ads and anything else that had been removed if you like.

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