[linux-audio-user] Opening up the discussion

james at dis-dot-dat.net james at dis-dot-dat.net
Mon Jul 25 16:15:29 EDT 2005


On Mon, 25 Jul, 2005 at 03:35PM -0400, Lee Revell spake thus:
> On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 12:47 -0700, eviltwin69 at cableone.net wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:34 , Lee Revell <rlrevell at joe-job.com> sent:
> > 
> > >On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 10:46 +0200, Mario Lang wrote:
> > >> That is the point, I absolutely dont feel reading up on something
> > >> is necessarily a bad thing.  My hair stand up if I watch
> > >> a typical no-clue windows user more or less randomly hitting
> > >> buttons in the interface until "something" works.  I do feel this
> > >> "it has to work out of the box without me having to know anything
> > >> about it" attitude is childish.
> > >> 
> > >
> > >I disagree violently with this line of reasoning.  Software should
> > >ALWAYS work the way the user expects it to unless there is a DAMN GOOD
> > >REASON, for example if you are offering a much more powerful interface
> > >than the user is used to.
> > >
> > >For example, most apps (Firefox and IE) use "Ctrl-F" to 'Find in page'.
> > >Except Evolution, which forces you to use "Ctrl-S" to 'Find (Search) in
> > >page', because they have already bound Ctrl-F to 'Forward message'.
> > 
> > 
> >     Ah, but Ctrl-S has been search in all versions of Emacs for the last couple
> > of decades.  I think that predates IE and Firefox.  They must not have felt like
> > doing it in the normal way ;-)  And you don't need to point out that Emacs isn't
> > a browser since Evolution isn't one either.
> > 
> 
> Correct, but I'm talking about the modern UNIX GUI desktop, the one that
> we expect to be intuitive to Mac and Windows users.  You know, KDE or
> Gnome, Firefox, OpenOffice, Evolution or kmail.  The type of stuff that
> will meet the needs of 99% of computer users (yes we all know we are in
> the other 1%).  For better or for worse, 


>Emacs is not a part of that.

*sobs*
 
> Lee
> 
> 

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