[linux-audio-user] Looking for a special sound

Folderol folderol at ukfsn.org
Sun Jul 23 19:46:25 EDT 2006

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 02:06:10 -0400
M P Smoak <smoak at mis.net> wrote:

> On Sunday 16 July 2006 13:51, Folderol wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I want to try to emulate a reed instrument rather like a clarinet
> > with a slightly damaged reed, so that the effect is that it
> > occasionally 'breaks' and gives a sort of squeak. Ideally this should
> > be more likely to happen at higher velocities.
> >
> I'm not a synth sound user except for soundfonts for my keyboard.  So
> can't comment on how to program a squeak.   

Sorry it's taken a long time to get back on this. I've been busy doing
other things - non music things :(

> I'll question and comment as a sax/flute player.  What type player 
> are you trying to emulate?  When I "squeak" it's me, not the reed.
> And I think it is for most all players.  I know players that can play 
> horns that are total wrecks with reeds "fixed" with a cigarette lighter.
> If they squeak, they make it fit; maybe even use it again.  A poor 
> player will stop playing or totally miss the line for a few measures 
> or longer.  What players do you want to emulate?  

That is actually a very hard question to answer. I would say it was an
experienced player who actually knows the strengths and weaknesses of
the instrument and is probably using then deliberately.

> Or maybe the better question is, what comes after the squeak (and 
> before it)?  A good teacher once told me, "there's no such thing as
> a bad note;  hit any note, any time; if it sound wrong, go to one that
> sound better".  

The squeak comes at the start of the note, or not at all. It seems to
be very pitch dependent, and will occur on just one note in a short run.

> If the squeak sounds natural, it's some overtone.  If not, then it's 
> what's played next that counts.  
> Feel free to send me test squeeak ogg's;  I know how they sound for
> real.  Done lot's of um.
> Marv     

Unfortunately I can't send and example. I am working from memory
hearing a folksy sort of piece a long time ago - on the radio I think.

Will J G

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