MUSIC-DSP digest 376
saunders
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Tue Dec 15 04:59:17 EST 1998
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-----Original Message-----
From: music-dsp at shoko.calarts.edu <music-dsp at shoko.calarts.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <music-dsp at shoko.calarts.edu>
Date: 12 December 1998 03:05
Subject: MUSIC-DSP digest 376
> MUSIC-DSP Digest 376
>
>Topics covered in this issue include:
>
> 1) Re: [OT] Re: languaje
> by "Stephan M. Sprenger" <sms at prosoniq.com>
> 2) `=cw4t7abs
> by "Mark" <mark.williamson at dial.pipex.com>
> 3) illegible mime formatting....
> by Kim Flint <kflint at annihilist.com>
> 4) Re: [OT] Re: languaje
> by James McCartney <asynth at io.com>
> 5)
> by antiorp at tezcat.com (=cw4t7abs)
> 6) Fw: `=cw4t7abs
> by "Mark" <mark.williamson at dial.pipex.com>
> 7) Re: `=cw4t7abs
> by antiorp at tezcat.com (=cw4t7abs)
> 8) Re: `=cw4t7abs
> by "Mark" <mark.williamson at dial.pipex.com>
> 9) Re: [OT] Re: languaje
> by Richard Zvonar <zvonar at WELL.com>
> 10) Re: [OT] Re: languaje
> by antiorp at tezcat.com (=cw4t7abs)
> 11) re: net.zkrape 4.5 + aud!o
> by antiorp at tezcat.com (=cw4t7abs)
> 12) Re: `=cw4t7abs
> by "Hans Mikelson" <hljmm at werewolf.net>
> 13) 86x867868l96
> by antiorp at tezcat.com (=cw4t7abs)
> 14) Re: `=cw4t7abs
> by Gene Schwartz <implode at well.com>
> 15) MPEG Audio
> by Chris Townsend <cwtownsend at usa.net>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 14:33:49 +0100
>From: "Stephan M. Sprenger" <sms at prosoniq.com>
>To: music-dsp
>Subject: Re: [OT] Re: languaje
>Message-ID: <366FCDBD.76E1 at prosoniq.com>
>
>=cw4t7abs wrote:
>>
>> "Stephan M. Sprenger" <sms at prosoniq.com>
>>
>> >Yep, an anti-antiorp filter (does this make it an 'orp' filter?). ;-)
>>
>> http://www.god-emil.dk/=cw4t7abs/sms/
>
>I have to admit this really IS kindof creative!
>
>Stephan M. Sprenger
>Director, R&D http://www.prosoniq.com
>PROSONIQ PRODUCTS SOFTWARE http://www.sonicworx.com
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 13:17:44 -0000
>From: "Mark" <mark.williamson at dial.pipex.com>
>To: <music-dsp>
>Subject: `=cw4t7abs
>Message-ID: <008801be243f$79ffcf20$d054fea9 at mark>
>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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>http://www.god-emil.dk/=3Dcw4t7abs/0f0003/ztpd/=3Dcw4t7abs_net_action.htm=
>l
>
>
>You seem really pleased with this as though it somehow=20
>validates you.But it doesn't alter the fact that you are=20
>simply generating noise. It is valid to subvert or parody=20
>a medium but in the case of this list all you are doing=20
>is shouting in the middle of technical disccussion - the=20
>discussion may be of little or no interest to you but that=20
>does not make it invalid. If your art is designed to make=20
>us question the nature of the conversation - why? - transmission
>of technical knowledge is useful and its form simply=20
>practical. You would be better off parodying our tax bills.
>
>Of course the art world will stand back and say oh look at all
>those boring technical people - its so good you make fun of=20
>them....
>
>By your choice of intervention you end up simply acting=20
>like the crass advertisers that generate a good deal of the=20
>rest of the noise on the web. We already know how irritating=20
>they are and they are for the most part only tolerated because=20
>they bring money to the web.=20
>
>One or two of your contributions have held some (little) interest=20
>hell.com - the inpenetreble web site is a good idea - unless of=20
>course it is exactly what it says it is, ie. a private club in which=20
>case its just sad. Assuming its a setup though its a good idea.=20
>
>mark
>
>
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><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>You seem really pleased with this as =
>though it=20
>somehow </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>validates you.But it doesn't alter the fact that you =
>are=20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>simply generating noise. It is valid to subvert or =
>parody=20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>a medium but in the case of this list all you are =
>doing=20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>is shouting in the middle of technical disccussion - =
>the=20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>discussion may be of little or no interest to you =
>but that=20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>does not make it invalid. If your art is designed to =
>make=20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>us question the nature of the conversation - why? -=20
>transmission</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>of technical knowledge is useful and its form simply =
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></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>practical. You would be better off parodying our tax =
>
>bills.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>Of course the art world will stand back and say oh =
>look at=20
>all</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>those boring technical people - its so good you make =
>fun of=20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>them....</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>By your choice of intervention you end up simply =
>acting=20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>like the crass advertisers that generate a good deal =
>of the=20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>rest of the noise on the web. We already know how =
>irritating=20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>they are and they are for the most part only =
>tolerated because=20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>they bring money to the web. </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>One or two of your contributions have held some =
>(little)=20
>interest </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>hell.com - the inpenetreble web site is a good idea =
>- unless=20
>of </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>course it is exactly what it says it is, ie. a =
>private club in=20
>which </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>case its just sad. Assuming its a setup though its a =
>good=20
>idea. </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2>mark</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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>
>Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:40:05 -0800
>From: Kim Flint <kflint at annihilist.com>
>To: music-dsp
>Subject: illegible mime formatting....
>Message-ID: <v03102800b295d01327c7@[207.171.198.38]>
>
>sorry, somewhat off-topic:
>
>At 5:27 AM -0800 12/10/98, Mark wrote:
>>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>>
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>>Content-Type: text/plain;
>> charset="iso-8859-1"
>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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>
>....the first sign of trouble
>
>now, see all this stuff here:
>
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>><HTML>
>><HEAD>
>>
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>>http-equiv=3DContent-Type>
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>></HEAD>
>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><A=20
>>href=3D"http://www.god-emil.dk/=3Dcw4t7abs/0f0003/ztpd/=3Dcw4t7abs_net_ac=
>>tion.html">http://www.god-emil.dk/=3Dcw4t7abs/0f0003/ztpd/=3Dcw4t7abs_net=
>>_action.html</A><A=20
>>href=3D"mailto:music-dsp at shoko.calarts.edu"><BR></A></FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>You seem really pleased with this as =
>>though it=20
>>somehow </FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT size=3D2>validates you.But it doesn't alter the fact that you =
>>are=20
>></FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT size=3D2>simply generating noise. It is valid to subvert or =
>>parody=20
>
>etc, etc...This is what your message looks like for me. If you are
>interested in generating less noise, please turn off the "feature" of your
>mail program that generates all of this horribly formatted and illegible
>html code. Plain old ascii text gets the message across on mailing lists
>just fine, using much less bandwidth. (oh yeah, not bothering to repeat
>things said about antiorp a 1000 times already doesn't hurt either, unless
>of course, you want to become an unwitting part of his netart project. ;-)
>learn to use mail filters....)
>
>kim
>
>
>______________________________________________________________________
>Kim Flint | Looper's Delight
>kflint at annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html
>http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request at annihilist.com
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 14:51:39 -0600
>From: James McCartney <asynth at io.com>
>To: music-dsp
>Subject: Re: [OT] Re: languaje
>Message-ID: <v03130300b295e46137a4@[206.224.81.60]>
>
>
>>ps... what is orp, and why is he anti it?
>
>My guess is that orp is pro backwards.
>
>so he is anti & pro...?
>
>
> --- james mccartney james at audiosynth.com http://www.audiosynth.com
>If you have a PowerMac check out SuperCollider2, a real time synth program:
><ftp://www.audiosynth.com/pub/updates/SC2d29.sea.hqx>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 18:17:10 -0600
>From: antiorp at tezcat.com (=cw4t7abs)
>To: music-dsp
>Message-ID: <199812102358.SAA04340 at web04b.farm.aol.com>
>
>
>fr.fr.frp. an! 1 = aware ov 1 alternat!v wh!ch would verk w!th netzkape 4.5
+?
>
>
>>"Brian Redfern" <bredfern at geocities.com>
>>This won't work because sun.audio is not part of standard java, so it
>>sounds as though netscape dropped support for sun.audio in navigator 4.5.
>>I've gotten calls to sun.audio to work in Navigator 3.0, but they were
>>never supported in IE. Check out jsyn at http://www.softsynth.com/jsyn/
>>for an interesting way to program sound in java while we all wait for
>>java sound to come out.
>>
>>=cw4t7abs wrote:
>>
>>> hello
>>>
>>> the code below works fine in netscape 4.xx
>>> [as well as cw] but does not work in netscape 4.5.
>>> guessing because of netscape.s "support" of jdk1.1
>>> which uses audioclip. would anyone happen to know
>>> how the below would work with audioclip ?
>>> the data to be played is synthezized and not from an url.
>>> thank you.
>>>
>>> import java.io.*;
>>> import sun.audio.*;
>>>
>>> .........
>>>
>>> public void play(){
>>>
>>> stop();
>>> AudioData audioData = new AudioData ( ulawData);
>>> audioDataStream = new AudioDataStream (audioData);
>>> AudioPlayer.player.start (audioDataStream);
>>> }
>>>
>>> private boolean isPlaying() {
>>> return audioDataStream != null;
>>> }
>>>
>>> public void stop() {
>>> if (isPlaying()) {
>>> AudioPlayer.player.stop (audioDataStream);
>>> audioDataStream = null;
>>> }
>>> }
>>>
>>> ....
>>>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:58:48 -0000
>From: "Mark" <mark.williamson at dial.pipex.com>
>To: <music-dsp>
>Subject: Fw: `=cw4t7abs
>Message-ID: <009801be2506$21242140$c51bfea9 at mark>
>
>Sorry if you have already got this I'm having strange
>problems with outgoing e-mail
>
>
>
>http://www.god-emil.dk/=cw4t7abs/0f0003/ztpd/=cw4t7abs_net_action.html
>
>
>You seem really pleased with this as though it somehow
>validates you.But it doesn't alter the fact that you are
>simply generating noise. It is valid to subvert or parody
>a medium but in the case of this list all you are doing
>is shouting in the middle of technical disccussion - the
>discussion may be of little or no interest to you but that
>does not make it invalid. If your art is designed to make
>us question the nature of the conversation - why? - transmission
>of technical knowledge is useful and its form simply
>practical. You would be better off parodying our tax bills.
>
>Of course the art world will stand back and say oh look at all
>those boring technical people - its so good you make fun of
>them....
>
>By your choice of intervention you end up simply acting
>like the crass advertisers that generate a good deal of the
>rest of the noise on the web. We already know how irritating
>they are and they are for the most part only tolerated because
>they bring money to the web.
>
>One or two of your contributions have held some (little) interest
>hell.com - the inpenetreble web site is a good idea - unless of
>course it is exactly what it says it is, ie. a private club in which
>case its just sad. Assuming its a setup though its a good idea.
>
>mark
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 07:50:03 -0600
>From: antiorp at tezcat.com (=cw4t7abs)
>To: music-dsp
>Subject: Re: `=cw4t7abs
>Message-ID: <199812111331.IAA17516 at web04b.farm.aol.com>
>
>>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
>modl c!t!zn ztandardz
>
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>>You seem really pleased with this as though it somehow=20
>>validates you.
>
>!f 1 = th!nkz tzo validat!on bkomz val!d
>
>>But it doesn't alter the fact that you are=20
>>simply generating noise.
>
>
>;; !nztrument 0+2
>;; wh!te no!sz w!th d.kl!k.!ng
>instr 2
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>a1 rand p4
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>
>>It is valid to subvert or parody=20
>>a medium but in the case of this list all you are doing=20
>>is shouting in the middle of technical disccussion - the=20
>>discussion may be of little or no interest to you but that=20
>>does not make it invalid.
>
>!ch habe das buch das !ch geschr!eben habe
>vor zwe! jahren an me!ne guten freunde weggegeben.
>
>!ch habe das buch gelesen das der mann
>m!r gegeben hat der da lebt
>
>
>>If your art is designed to make=20
>>us
>
>us us us
>
>>question the nature of the conversation - why?
>
>The Drives I
>The Drives II
>The Drives III
>paranoja mazk!nz
>dze pol!t!kx ov enjo!mnt
>var!et!ez ov revolut!on
>
>\
>>Of course the art world will stand back and say oh look at all
>>those boring technical people
> \
>zpekulat!on Of course
>
>>- its so good you make fun of=20
>>them....
>
>them them them
>
>luvl! appl!ed teknolog! .
>f!ndr. soundhak. sku!!!!!!g!. phonogramme. son!kverkx. grm. zuperkoll!dr.
>max. h!popr!zm. zte!m kode. ovrz!te. laz!. d!fkad _+ !nzert fav
>
>
>>By your choice of intervention you end up simply acting=20
>>like the crass advertisers that generate a good deal of the=20
>>rest of the noise on the web. We
>
>we we we
>
>>already know how irritating=20
>>they are
>
>they they they
>
>>and they are for the most part only tolerated because=20
>>they bring money to the web.=20
>
>s!ll! u u u
>
>>One_/\or tw\o of your contributions have held some (little)
> \ \
>dze unkon\sc!o\uz = ztrukturd l!ke 1 language
>narc!szm dz\e e\go dze !mag!nar!
>pljr real!t! \fa\ntaz!e
>oed!puz \ \
>dze phalluz i On\eOneOne
>dze phalluz ii \twotwotwo
>
>
>>mark
>
>
>!= ur name real +?
>
>
>
>- e p ! l o g [b.lo]
>
>s!ll! u u u + tekno lo lo lo g! !nvolvd !n 1 gen!tal embrrrrrrrrr.race
>[fztr fztr]
>
>
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>>href=3D"http://www.god-emil.dk/=3Dcw4t7abs/0f0003/ztpd/=3Dcw4t7abs_net_ac=
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>>though it=20
>>somehow </FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT size=3D2>validates you.But it doesn't alter the fact that you =
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>
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:52:07 -0000
>From: "Mark" <mark.williamson at dial.pipex.com>
>To: <music-dsp>
>Cc: <antiorp at tezcat.com>
>Subject: Re: `=cw4t7abs
>Message-ID: <001201be2515$d602c800$6559a8c0 at mark>
>
>
>so is this a dialogue or is it a song?
>to mock and avoid do not make for
>conversation. You seem to associate
>technology and the phallus - easy
>perhaps - yes I and others must question,
>but is that all you want? or like all terrorists
>is there a hidden desire where change
>or recognition override. You accuse my
>generalizations with yours.
>
>Conventions are useful but not concrete - rules
>are not a substitue for thinking though many
>think they are
>
>>>mark
>>!= ur name real +?
>
>indeed - what other should I use? I am
>not afraid of who I am....
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 23:24:15 -0800
>From: Richard Zvonar <zvonar at WELL.com>
>To: music-dsp
>Subject: Re: [OT] Re: languaje
>Message-ID: <v03110704b296790969d9@[209.179.8.146]>
>
>At 12:56 PM -0800 12/10/98, James McCartney wrote:
>>>ps... what is orp, and why is he anti it?
>>
>>My guess is that orp is pro backwards.
>>
>>so he is anti & pro...?
>
>
>Bah=EDa Blanca, lunes 25 de Agosto de 1997
>
>Redada antiORP
>
>BUENOS AIRES (DyN) -- Dos importantes dirigentes de la Organizaci=F3n
>Revolucionaria del Pueblo (ORP) habr=EDan sido detenidos en diversos
>allanamientos ordenados por la jueza federal Mar=EDa Romilda Servini de
>Cubr=EDa.
>
>Los operativos se habr=EDan llevado a cabo, durante la noche del s=E1bado,
e=
>n
>la localidad bonaerense de General Pacheco. Merced a un trabajo conjunto
>encabezado por la divisi=F3n de defraudaciones y estafas de la Polic=EDa
>=46ederal --al que adhirieron integrantes del POC (Protecci=F3n del Orden
>Constitucional)--, se coron=F3 una larga serie de seguimientos e
>investigaciones. Fuentes policiales manifestaron que durante las maniobras
>nocturnas se arrest=F3 a dos de los m=E1ximos l=EDderes de la
organizaci=F3n
>terrorista, sin que se suministraran datos sobre sus identidades o sobre
>los domicilios donde se registraron las capturas.
>
>Siempre protegida por las sombras, la enigm=E1tica sigla ORP se adjudic=F3
>diversos atentados durante los =FAltimos meses: un artefacto explosivo
dejad=
>o
>a las puertas del hospital Naval, en el barrio porte=F1o de Parque
>Centenario, fue, quiz=E1, su m=E1s atrevida jugada.
>
>Pero, adem=E1s, supuestos miembros de sus cuadros aparecieron encapuchados
e=
>n
>diversos programas de televisi=F3n en sendas entrevistas concedidas a
>periodistas uruguayos.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
><RZ>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:00:24 -0600
>From: antiorp at tezcat.com (=cw4t7abs)
>To: music-dsp
>Subject: Re: [OT] Re: languaje
>Message-ID: <199812111741.MAA00981 at web04b.farm.aol.com>
>
>>At 12:56 PM -0800 12/10/98, James McCartney wrote:
>>>>ps... what is orp, and why is he anti it?
>>>
>>>My guess is that orp is pro backwards.
>
>
>ou!.
>
>
>>>so he is anti & pro...?
>>
>>
>>Bah=EDa Blanca, lunes 25 de Agosto de 1997
>>
>>Redada antiORP
>
>
>
>s0ls0l. m9ndfukc++. Richard Zvonar <zvonar at well.com> == koo+koo
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:18:10 -0600
>From: antiorp at tezcat.com (=cw4t7abs)
>To: music-dsp
>Subject: re: net.zkrape 4.5 + aud!o
>Message-ID: <199812111859.NAA05076 at web04b.farm.aol.com>
>
>re: net.zkrape 4.5 + aud!o
>
>>I've got an applet that uses the supported audio calls in
>>java.applet.Applet, java.applet.AudioClip, and java.applet.AppletContext,
>>and they do not work in Netscape 4.5, either. So I don't think it's a
>>matter of using unsupported sun.* classes. I've reported this as a bug to
>>Netscape maybe two weeks ago. No response yet. Any Netscapers on this
list
>>care to respond?
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 18:20:17 -0600
>From: "Hans Mikelson" <hljmm at werewolf.net>
>To: "Multiple recipients of list" <music-dsp>
>Subject: Re: `=cw4t7abs
>Message-ID: <001001be2565$33446ec0$9de167ce at default>
>
>>;; !nztrument 0+2
>>;; wh!te no!sz w!th d.kl!k.!ng
>>instr 2
>>aenv linseg 1,p3-.05,1,.05,0,.01,0
>>a1 rand p4
>>outs a1*aenv,a2*aenv
>
>
>Should be:
>
>outs a1*aenv, a1*aenv
>
>Although I have only been lurking on this list I will state that antiorp
has
>existed somewhat peacefully on the Csound list for a long time neither
>trolling or flaming excessively. antiorp seems to use the character
>remapping scheme as a form of artistic expression. antiorp's music and web
>sites are very innovative and have apparently won some awards. Most
>comments by antiorp that I have seen have been on topic, although antiorp
>does appear to have strong political opinions. antiorp has extensive
>knowlege of Macintosh audio software as well as others.
>
>Regards,
>Hans Mikelson
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 19:23:03 -0600
>From: antiorp at tezcat.com (=cw4t7abs)
>To: music-dsp
>Subject: 86x867868l96
>Message-ID: <199812120104.UAA25276 at web04b.farm.aol.com>
>
>
>>Should be:
>>
>>outs a1*aenv, a1*aenv
>
>tak.
>
>>Most
>>comments by antiorp that I have seen have been on topic, although antiorp
>>does appear to have strong political opinions.
>
>vn 1 = purchasez 1 produkt 1 = engag!ng !n 1 pol!t!kl akt!on
>vn 1 = purchasez 1 al!mentar! produkt 1 = engag!ng !n dze slaughtr
>az well.
>
>+ wh!le mozt c!t!zenz would not b !n akkord were dze! 2 w!tnesz
>dze slaughtr mozt c!t!zenz = v.komfortabl w!th
>enter!ng 1 struktur + purchasz!ng slaughtrd mattr.
>
>!t = 1 d!ff betw!n fasc!zm + kap!tal!zm auss!.
>
>ver! n!sel! !lluztratd !n stroszek.
>fr!tz lang ztatez !n lez mepr!z
>
>dze h!tler!an pulld out dze!r p!ztolz
>`amer!kanz` = pull out dze!r chekbookx.
>[amer!kanz != nat!onal!t! abr !deolog!]
>
>cezt vra! ca. when hear dze verd kultur
>out kom dze chekbookx + 1 kultur dr!vn b!
>1 chekbook = ultra mortal much mor tzo dzen
>1 p!ztol.
>
>r!zn 4 s!lensz = mozt eczasperat!ng no!sz
>
>>Regards,
>>Hans Mikelson
>
>1 ultra csound komentar!. tak. kould kausz 1 prt!klr zom1 2 feel radzr
>s!ll! _+ ashamed. although !t = !mpoz!bl 2trvl aga!nzt sent!mentz.
>[at d!sz moment auss!. 1 coeur en h!vr]
>
>bzzp.
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:30:30 -0800
>From: Gene Schwartz <implode at well.com>
>To: music-dsp
>Subject: Re: `=cw4t7abs
>Message-ID: <l03130301b24736280244@[206.169.229.7]>
>
>Hans Mikelson wrote:
>>
>>Although I have only been lurking on this list I will state that antiorp
has
>>existed somewhat peacefully on the Csound list for a long time neither
>>trolling or flaming excessively. antiorp seems to use the character
>>remapping scheme as a form of artistic expression. antiorp's music and
web
>>sites are very innovative and have apparently won some awards. Most
>>comments by antiorp that I have seen have been on topic, although antiorp
>>does appear to have strong political opinions.
>
>why 'although' ?
>
>> antiorp has extensive
>>knowlege of Macintosh audio software as well as others.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>"I began to add a few things up and realized there was no way I could come
>from a little town in Iowa, be eating 2,000 people a year, and nobody said
>anything about it"
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 00:40:09 -0800
>From: Chris Townsend <cwtownsend at usa.net>
>To: music-dsp
>Subject: MPEG Audio
>Message-ID: <3.0.32.19981212004000.00978d50 at jps.net>
>
>I read that the MPEG Audio (Layer I) uses 32 linearly spaced subband
>filters with an order of 511 to code an audio stream, and that the
>"computationally expensive matrix multiplication associated with the filter
>bank can be replaced with efficient, fast discrete cosine transform
>algorithms." Assuming I understand this correctly, how do you implement
>this type of uniform filter bank using the DCT? I looked for other
>information regarding MPEG audio, and what I found so far just suggested
>that the filter bank is implemented using a polyphase filter structure. I
>did find information on how to implement a uniform filter bank using the
>DFT, but so far I haven't seen anything regarding the DCT.
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>Chris
>
>
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>
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