[music-dsp] OT : Castro signature..

[Michael Gogins]

I take joy in living in a free society where I and others may speak our minds. This entails a risk of offending people -- and of being offended.

Surely in Islam there are many points of view. This is clear because there is controversy and conflict within Islam itself. 

I know already that some of these points of view I find offensive and even worth fighting, others are worthy of my highest respect.

Best,
Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Ove Karlsen <mail at ihsan-dsp.com>
Sent: Nov 7, 2005 3:56 PM
To: music-dsp <music-dsp at shoko.calarts.edu>
Subject: Re: [music-dsp] OT : Castro signature..

Please remove it, it's really offensive.
There's so many people in the world who critizise without having any  
better solution, than what they critizise. Please - it goes nowhere.
Critizising Microsoft products is a bit different, in that we all know  
they have been rather faulty/obscure for years. But critizising a  
religion, that encapsulates the whole life of the believer, is something  
completely different. Particulary a religion that aims so high as Islam  
does. To critizise it is virtually impossible without coming off as a very  
ignorant person. You may ofcourse critizise hipocrisy or other aspects,  
but then I believe you have some form of hipocrisy closer to you, you  
should rather focus your attention to.
Should you critizise your neighbour before yourself?
I believe eventually when you are done critizising and try to come up with  
a way that will work for everyone, and be just and preserve human values,  
you will eventually come to form a new religion, and it would be very much  
like Islam. And then you'd reckognize Islam embody these principles in a  
much better way.

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On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:29:25 +0100, Erik de Castro Lopo  
<mdsp-erikd at mega-nerd.com> wrote:

> Ove Karlsen wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:58:28 +0100, Erik de Castro Lopo
>> <mdsp-erikd at mega-nerd.com> wrote:
>> ..
>> > Erik
>> >+-----------------------------------------------------------+
>> >  Erik de Castro Lopo
>> > +-----------------------------------------------------------+
>> > "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become
>> > dominant. The Koran should be the highest authority in America, and  
>> Islam
>> > the only accepted religion on earth." -- Omar Ahmad, board chairman of
>> > Council of American Islamic Relations to an islamic audience in 1998.
>>
>> Seriously, you know that I am a muslim right?
>
> I didn't know. "Ove Karlsen" is a scandinavian name so I would not have
> guessed that you are a muslim.
>
>> Your signature used to read "meganerd".
>
> My signature has always contained controversial quotes. They are  
> selected at
> random from a large file of quotes and statements, with heavier weighting
> for the ones that are first in the file.
>
> There is also lots of anti-microsoft propaganda but we have never seen
> any of the microsoft employees on this list complain. Maybe that have
> thicker skins.
>
> There are also controversial quotes about C++ and Java.
>
>> After I started posting here,
>
> That was an accident of circumstance. You must have started posting at  
> the
> same time I became interested in this topic.
>
>> it changed to anti-islamic propaganda.
>
> Noone is stopping you from using pro-islamic propaganda in your
> signature.
>
> I however would prefer not spend time on the music-dsp list discussing  
> this
> issue. I would be happy to take it elsewhere, including private email.
>
> Erik


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