[music-dsp] Is beating the same thing as flanging?

Scott Lehman guitguy69 at gmail.com
Sun Nov 14 12:24:26 EST 2010

To add my 2 cents:

I would refine the earlier definition of phasing and flanging to be
mixing an *allpass filtered* copy of a signal with the original
(rather than a delayed copy).  And typically a time varying filter of

Phasing is the general case, and flanging is a specific type of
phasing - after all, a delay is a kind of allpass filter, even if a
degenerate case.

This view helps avoid the "is filtering delay based" issue :)


--- On Sun, 11/14/10, Peter Schoffhauzer <scoofy at inf.elte.hu> wrote:
> So, what's the point of this all? To prove that *every*
> effect that has filters in it is "delay based", because they
> have reactive components and capacitors have memory? If you
> try to do the same with a higher order lowpass filter
> instead of an allpass filter, it will also give a
> vibrato-like pitch shifting effect due to the varying
> amounts phase shift caused by the modulation. Does this mean
> we should call a lowpass filter a "delay-based effect"
> because "it can create a vibrato effect" which "proves the
> presence of delay" ?
> Shouldn't we probably define first what a 'delay' is? To
> me, a 'delay' is an element that delays the entire signal by
> a certain amount of time. Something that does a phase twist
> on the signal's frequency spectrum is not a 'delay' in my
> dictionary.
> Petey
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