[music-dsp] [OT] vinyl? No, thanks...

Quinto Sardo quintosardo at yahoo.it
Sun Nov 21 04:51:30 EST 2010


Yesterday I bought "The Dark Side of the Moon" on cd, original digital master.
Doesn't sound nice, like a bit of digital harshness.
Maybe old A/D conversion what the reason for a struggle that goes on along its own echoes...

--- Dom 21/11/10, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini at nuim.ie> ha scritto:

> Da: Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini at nuim.ie>
> Oggetto: Re: [music-dsp] [OT] vinyl? No, thanks...
> A: "A discussion list for music-related DSP" <music-dsp at music.columbia.edu>
> Data: Domenica 21 novembre 2010, 09:03
> oh, don't get me started on cassette
> tapes... ;-)
> On 20 Nov 2010, at 22:31, Andy Farnell wrote:
> 
> > 
> > It was always more about the physical format,
> > the actual artifact, cover art, sleeving,
> paraphernalia.
> > 
> > A housemate of mine ran a label (noise and
> experimental)
> > very much concerned with the celebration of the
> > recording medium as an artform, and there are still
> > networks of people who exchange tapes and rare vinyls
> > precisely _despite_ the quality or accesibility. :)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:53:38 -0800
> > Nigel Redmon <earlevel at earlevel.com>
> wrote:
> > 
> >> LOL--I love it because they are discovering new
> things. I love it because when I hear from one of them, it's
> usually because they discovered an ancient copy of the very
> limited production run of an album my band did 30 years ago,
> in my progrock days. Discovery is a cool thing. If they're
> listening to vinyl, they are likely accessing things that
> don't exist in digital form.
> >> 
> >> For me, my vinyl collection hasn't had a spin
> since pre-1990, when I noticed one of my kids had apparently
> grabbed my fragile little B&O stylus and given it a
> twist.
> >> 
> >> Actually, I did buy a new turntable a few years
> ago, mainly to get a digital copy of that old album. I
> thought I might also copy some out of print items in my
> collection, but I've haven't gotten around to that.
> >> 
> >> BTW, back in the early digital days, I went to see
> Brian Eno "in colloquy". He said that when CDs came out, he
> was doing some show where he was was playing CD audio over
> the PA, and he ended up hooking up a cassette deck to mix in
> some hiss--it didn't sound right to him otherwise.
> >> 
> >> Some of Trent Reznor's stuff has vinyl pop-crackle
> mixed in--I wonder how many people these days have no idea
> what that noise is. (Funny memory--was working out at Gold's
> gym, and Hurt was playing over the sound system. An amateur
> body builder friend--a little older than me
> actually--started heading towards the front desk with
> apparent purpose, and on a hunch I asked where he was going.
> "To tell them to tune the station in", he replied. I had to
> tell him, as Reznor once said, "it's my record, and I'm
> gonna make it sound shitty if I want to".)
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Nov 20, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Victor Lazzarini
> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> This is because they have probably not
> experienced building a 1000+ vinyl collection only to see it
> disintegrate along the years, with crackles, pops
> >>> and scratches. Every time I picked up one of
> favorite albums and discovered a new scratch that appeared
> from nowhere (even with my very obsessed care of
> >>> the collection). No, thanks. CD came along and
> I'm very thankful for it. With good care, they keep well.
> Vinyl: it just made you want to murder someone.
> >>> 
> >>> Victor
> >>> On 20 Nov 2010, at 18:39, Nigel Redmon wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> And when young people discover vinyl, I
> love it--I don't consider them stupid.
> >>> 
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