[music-dsp] maintaining musicdsp.org

Bram de Jong bram.dejong at gmail.com
Wed Apr 11 04:18:02 EDT 2012


so.... anyone?

 - bram

On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Bram de Jong <bram.dejong at gmail.com> wrote:
> guys guys guys don't get ahead of yourselves! :-)
>
> musicdsp.org is pretty simple in terms of code. Rewriting in drupal
> (or similar) would take way too long and would -this is much more
> important- require someone who is dedicated to musicdsp.org for the
> next few years (as I myself have very little experience with Drupal,
> except the nightmare that is called "security updates").
>
> I'm just looking for someone who has a bit more time than me and feels
> like hacking (not coding) a few extra things like a captcha
> (recaptcha?) and what not into musicdsp's current code base - which is
> PHP.
>
> And anyway, if I would rewrite it, I would rewrite it in django as I
> have a vast amount of experience with django. ;-))
>
>
>  - Bram
>
> On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 8:12 AM,  <david.lowenfels at gmail.com> wrote:
>> adding recaptcha to an existing site would not be too difficult, and would get the job done.
>>
>> if you decide to overhaul... I'm partial to Rails, it's pretty awesome.
>> (disclosure I'm a ruby/rails developer as my day job)
>> there are a handful of CMS solutions for rails 3, here are two options that look decent... I could help customize
>> http://refinerycms.com/
>> http://www.browsercms.org/
>>
>> -D
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Kevin Dixon wrote:
>>
>>> I would vote for a CAPTCHA... specifically recaptcha
>>> http://www.google.com/recaptcha/whyrecaptcha
>>>
>>> -Kevin
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Bastian Schnuerle
>>> <bastian.schnuerle at silberstein.de> wrote:
>>>> just did wordpress for a friend .. looks nice .. +1 ..
>>>>
>>>> Am 05.04.2012 um 21:50 schrieb douglas repetto:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think even Wordpress would work very well for the content on
>>>>> musicdsp.org. I agree a full drupal site seems like overkill!
>>>>>
>>>>> douglas
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/5/12 10:05 AM, Bjorn Roche wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2012, at 4:53 AM, Ross Bencina wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey Bjorn,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/04/2012 1:52 AM, Bjorn Roche wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any thoughts about modernizing the whole thing with a fresh CMS?
>>>>>>>> I think it would be easier to maintain, have built-in spam
>>>>>>>> filters, and it would be easier to have multiple people do the
>>>>>>>> work. Plus it would look more attractive. I don't think it would
>>>>>>>> take much effort to redo the whole thing in, say, drupal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you ever set up a Drupal site? I have. It is not for
>>>>>>> small-time, non-commercial, low-maintenance overhead projects
>>>>>>> imho.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. Quite a few.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Imho it would be a huge job to port the current site to Drupal and
>>>>>>> there is a lot of ongoing maintenance required to keep security
>>>>>>> patches up to date etc etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. The biggest problem is security updates. You are right: major
>>>>>> PITA factor. This can be mitigated by a hosted solution, or a
>>>>>> multi-site install where someone is already monitoring the site for
>>>>>> security updates. But, at the end of the day, that might not be
>>>>>> realistic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doing the theme port alone would be a lot of work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would not dream of porting the existing theme, but rather use a
>>>>>> new, or built-in theme.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unless I'm completely out of touch it is really non-trivial to set
>>>>>>> up something like musicdsp.org in Drupal with adequate spam
>>>>>>> filtering. The standard Drupal capcha solution (Mollom) is not
>>>>>>> great -- in my experience it flags a lot of false positives (spam
>>>>>>> that isn't spam).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mollom sucks. Captchas alone catch the vast majority of spam. The
>>>>>> rest can be handled with moderation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, this is really just a vote against Drupal for musicdsp.org,
>>>>>>> not against using a CMS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I actually think the current ad-hoc php solution is not so bad --
>>>>>>> but Bram knows more about these things than me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recaptcha could be added to the existing site with fairly little
>>>>>> effort, but there are other advantages to a CMS: they are easier to
>>>>>> team-manage, organize, and they have a number of potentially useful
>>>>>> features like taxonomies (giving the ability to tag and categorize
>>>>>> algos by language and purpose for example.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bjorn
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------------------- Bjorn Roche http://www.xonami.com Audio
>>>>>> Collaboration http://blog.bjornroche.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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